Bison06

Yes

I'll go on record right now as a Bison fan and say I think he deserves a 2-3 game suspension.

Sioux83's answer is exactly how I think the situation should be handled.

Last attempt If Beck gets convicted of a felony, what is the acceptable maximum and minimum punishment in your eyes? If Beck gets convicted of a misdemeanor, what is the acceptable maximum and minimum punishment in your eyes? If all charges end up being dropped, what is the acceptable maximum and minimum punishment in your eyes?

I am looking for you to opine on the possible scenarios, not say why they would happen based on the history. Airmail gave the answer I was looking for.

Are you avoiding the question on purpose?

No, I'm asking you if it does indeed play out that way, will you believe that is fine or will you think they let him off the hook too easy?

What is your assessment of that, if it plays out that way?

Guilty of what though?

Exactly, the taxpayers of the fine state of ND should be happy the two Universities are complementing each other so well. Damn the forum for not running with that angle.

Keeping the law industry afloat. Just doing our part to stimulate the economy. Where's the gratitude?

I've seen you post on this board for a few years, so take this as a complement. You're reading comprehension skills are better than you are letting on. Never once did I say the police abused their power in this case. In fact, it appears the police did a fine job. Respond directly to my question please, this is unrelated to the current discussion, so don't accuse me of saying the police were wrong in this case. Do you feel law enforcement is infallible?

You know you'd be bored without us.

Why did you change your post? And my view of law enforcement has nothing to do with me being an NDSU fan or former player and everything to do with my personal experience with law enforcement abusing their power. Again, there has to be at least one defense attorney on this board who knows exactly what I'm talking about.

I'm not getting mad at people for jumping to conclusions, just presenting the other possibilities. Which just so happens to be what the defendant is claiming in this case(what else would he say).

Law enforcement is infallible in your world? You must not know many defense attorneys.

Yes, sorry I was thinking the 2010 season. Which year was Mussman's first year as head coach?

I'm not proud to say I have been in and seen many, many fights over the years. Unconsciousness has very little to do with the ferocity of the attack and much more to do with hitting someone in the correct spot, or incorrect spot depending on how you see it. If you land a solid shot to someone's jaw, they're going to sleep. Now, again, I have no idea if that is the case with Beck. I'm just saying the man ending up unconscious doesn't preclude the scenario from being reasonable self defense. http://www.keepbusy.net/play.php?id=bully-receives-one-punch-knockout fast forward to 40 seconds.

Not sure, I'm not a lawyer. If the video doesn't show the alteration clearly, it seems to me that the only people who are talking are parties directly involved. He said, he said type of deal. I'm sure someone on this board can shed some light on what might happen if this video is inconclusive.

Though it looks like this second resisting arrest charge is warranted. I have seen that charge given out for some pretty "ticky tack" things. Especially if it associated with an MIP. Seems to have a pretty low threshold to be charged with resisting arrest.

I agree, but at least they'll get it right.

What are you angry about? That NDSU fans would prefer the facts come out before passing judgement? Past history? He got a minor. Alert homeland security.

What is this "true believers" reference. I am not familiar with that term. The only reason I brought up Sandy hook was to say that the media runs with the early story and sometimes the official account is different. Obviously the details are different.

http://www.gobison.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=45&path=football http://www.gobison.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=46&path=football UNI is our biggest rival now, they weren't at the time. So the fans didn't have an emotional attachment to winning that game. All that aside. I watched every game from that season and we played well in every single game apart from Iowa State and UNI. Those were winnable games that were lost IMO because of lack of talent at the QB position. Anyway that's off topic. Just saying, there is a difference between getting blown out by the best 2 teams in the conference and playing competitive games and coming out on the losing end. I think if Mussman was in Fargo he would have been gone after this past season if not the one before.

Nobody is saying law enforcement has it wrong. Just that the facts haven't come out yet. He was arrested on the spot, you think they viewed the tape of the fight before they arrested him at 3 am? Did the cops have it wrong at Sandy hook when it was reported that there were 2-3 shooters? No, the media just ran with an early report. No different than what is going on here. Sometimes those early reports are right, other times they are wrong. Nothing more.