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Isn't there usually a 2 year gap between those kinds of deals? If this is what they did, BC would be in GF in 2010.

Amen to that.

What I can see happening to provide expansion opportunities is either the CCHA or WCHA going to a 14 team conference, split into two divisions. Then divide up the games a certain way to make it fair, and that way everyone is happy. What's going to change everything is if the Big Ten Conference ever forms, which will be a double edged sword for a school like UND.

Now we're getting somewhere. UAF and UAA in the same conference looks good until you realize that traveling costs for some teams having to travel to Alaska twice would stink and not be reasonable. That's the reason they aren't in the same conference now. One way it could work is if you do a scheduling system, where you play each team once per season, except a designated "rival" team that you'd play twice. That gives you 24 conference games in a 12 team conference, which is a pretty low amount, but keeps it fair. UAF and UAA could be rival teams for each other, and every other league team could alternate which team they play in Alaska each year. I don't see this happening, but it's a thought.

OK, I see and understand your point. But the problem is there's no room for another team right now with the folding of the CHA. With the CHA, it might have been more feasible. Here's where it stands right now. -WCHA has 10 teams with room for only 12. -CCHA has 12 teams already and is full. -There are 2 teams remaining from the CHA that need a new conference affiliation. -A 12 team max is not a rule, but it makes scheduling too difficult and too watered down when there are more than 12 in a conference. So...assuming that BSU gets into the WCHA, to make an 11 team conference, that leaves UAH. Where does UAH go? The CCHA is the best fit. Hopefully the CCHA will do their part by taking them in (like we are for BSU), and hopefully a CCHA team is willing to make the switch to the WCHA (I don't see that being too big of a problem). If that's the case, both conferences still stand at 12 teams. That leaves no room for NDSU. If NDSU were a Big Ten or Big 12 team or something looking to join hockey and need a conference, I think every hockey conference would be more open to them joining and finding a way to make it work. I don't think that'd be the case for NDSU. There's simply no room for them right now, unless UAH finds a home not named the WCHA or CCHA.

Definitely not. BC is way too good. Harvard might never beat BC again...ever.

See ya at BWW Goon!

Again, you fail to realize the importance of having BSU in the WCHA. Please go back and re-read my posts. Adding BSU has nothing to do with adding them just for fun. I covered the stance of the WCHA and BSU already. So, my conclusion is, either you don't read what I write, or you can't understand plain English. Kids, if you want to own the farm, you apparently can go to NDSU or UND. If you want to increase your chances of owning the farm and not working on it, go to UND since you will get a better education in grammar. You will learn complete sentences that actually make sense (see bolded). Grammar is very important in getting a job that doesn't involve microwaving burgers at your local McDonald's.

You're trying to tell me how successful USF is in the Big East and comparing that to NDSU joining the WCHA...but you only want to use a single statement to promote your point, but not consider any other from the same subject matter? It's impossible to argue with someone like you when you are so tunnel-visioned. If you want to use USF as a comparison to NDSU joining the WCHA, you have to compare each and every factor. The Big East wasn't waiting forever for that miraculous day that USF decided to field a football team because they knew USF would be successful. USF paid their dues and in a way, got lucky (please read previous post). They are successful for reasons that you fail to list or acknowledge when it comes to the discussion we are currently taking part in relating to NDSU and hockey. If you think all I mention is the lack of history at NDSU for being the sole reason you are obviously not reading my posts. There are a multitude of items I listed. Also, the lack of history point I made is being taken out of context by you and has little to do with how NDSU doesn't have banners hanging from a rink somewhere in Fargo, and more to do with a plethora of other matters that I already listed in my previous posts, so I'm not going to waste my team restating them. Kids, if you want to work on the farm, go to NDSU. If you want to own the farm, go to UND.

Yep, and I think it's a fair assumption to want BC to lose as well.

Marc Chorney

It was pure PWR/RPI.

I like to golf!

I can't say I have a problem with this considering we all saw JPL's antics (which were only funny at the time) for 2 full seasons. On multple occassions, JPL even took some batting practice during games with the puck, and it almost cost us on a play last year.

There is a 0% chance the Sioux can sweep the Mavs. There is a 0% chance the Sioux can win the conference. There is a 0% chance of the Sioux making the tourney....which results in a 0% chance of winning a national title.

Ya know what...let's make these USF/NDSU comparisons.... USF plays all their home games in an NFL stadium. This is a great recruiting tool for not only players, but for trying to get into a big time conference. NDSU plays in nothing as of right now. The UPC is no where near being even comparable to something like that. Even if NDSU had something like what UNO had it would help. The UPC could work out for the short term, and you have these big dreams about the FD hosting hockey (and still fail to address serious issues brought up with that). OK, let's say the FD gets the go ahead to add hockey capabilities. Since you're in love with USF and comparing them to NDSU....don't you think NDSU should have to pay their dues in a lower ranking division or as an independent...or maybe just not being able to play in the NCAA tourney for something like 3-4 years once off the ground? This would be an awesome way to kill NDSU hockey before it even started. This isn't my idea on what should happen, I'm just trying to speculate and play devil's advocate since you want to compare NDSU to USF so much. USF isn't the rule...it's the exception. They did everything the right away and are privilaged to play a sport that is about ten times more popular than hockey, easier to grow a fan base, and have the opportunity to play their home games in an NFL stadium....which happens to be the biggest stadium that anyone in the Big East plays in. They paid their dues as a D1-AA independent, then as a D1-A independent, and proved they could play Big East football before the Big East gave them a chance. They didn't just plan all this assuming the Big East was going to add them. If the Big East didn't lose teams like Miami, Boston College, and Virginia Tech, USF would not have this opportunity. If a Big Ten conference ever formed, I think this would provide the best opportunity for a school like NDSU to join college hockey and gain approval from the WCHA. But with no room or poor location to all five college hockey conferences added to the fact they don't have good place to play/practice and have never played one game of D1 hockey just doesn't seem reasonable to assume the WCHA is all for adding NDSU. It seems as if you are trying to assume I'm unducated about what you are trying to sell me, but it's not going to work. You are just making yourself look dumber each and every post. This is not a bash, just the truth. "Thou shall not lie."

You continue to use this USF argument over and over, but continue failing to address all the other problems there are that need to be solved. Don't worry, USF joining the Big East solves all! What's your paypal address, I should really start paying you for this comedy you keep spitting out.

The argument of comparing NDSU to BSU is silly and shows how uninformed some people are. 1) BSU has a great hockey history and already has a team up and running and a yearly series against half of the WCHA. BSU hasn't proved much at the D1 level, other than being a decent test of hockey on occassion. If added to the WCHA, along with a new arena, they can compete on a decent level hopefully. However, the WCHA isn't considering this because of some love affair with BSU. See point #3. 2) NDSU has never played one game of Division 1 NCAA hockey....ever. The WCHA is an elite hockey conference. To think that a team that has never had one player step on the ice would be a for sure addition to the WCHA is beyond ridiculous. 3) This is the big one...WCHA doesn't want to add BSU necessarily, but NEEDS to add BSU. If college hockey loses any more teams, the NCAA may be forced to trim down the NCAA Tournament to less than the current 16 teams. Keeping BSU alive, along with as many other NCAA programs as possible, is of top priority. The WCHA is merely doing their part by willing to consider adding BSU....something that you assume has already happened...even though it has not. To think the WCHA would add NDSU in a second is flat out dumb. Some people here are factually challenged apparently. If anything, NDSU would give hope to keep a 6th conference going with some conference realignment...but even that's a stretch. There's no room for NDSU anywhere anyways. Schools already in D1 NCAA hockey should be considered for any conference opening first. WCHA is at 10, and can go to 12, but BSU and UAH are still in need of a home. UAH is a stretch for the WCHA, so if they can get into the CCHA, it'd fit great. But then the CCHA is at 13, and would probably need to trim down to 12. This is where a team like UNO or NMU come into play as potential WCHA 12th team candidates. The CCHA doesn't want UAH over either of those teams, but they are doing their part, just like we'll be doing ours by likely adding BSU. A new conference would need to be formed, and no one would want to be in this crappy lower tier conference because the location of all potential schools is so far spread it'd be way too costly, along with big money-generating schools of bigger conferences are preferred at these smaller schools. Please stop kidding yoursleves.

Very cool album, thanks!

I see I returned to GF and SiouxSports on the right foot!

You assume that the WCHA would automatically add the Bison because of a multipurpose FD. The truth is, NDSU would probably be one of the last teams the WCHA would want to water down the league. Give me UAH please!

A quality NDSU education I see... Again...just because they can, doesn't mean they should. I'm going to change my stance on the issue. I hope they do add hockey. Then, they can join some crappy conference (why would the WCHA want them?) and fail miserably financially.

Kinda....it was more of a lack of physicality and goonishness....which I guess can be translated into a poor attitude. Gino did wonders with his playmaking ability though, once he got out of the WCHA he really shined.

Wayne Gretzky

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