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  1. So how long is Vanek's contract?

    Vanek's three-year contract carries an annual NHL salary-cap charge of $6.5 million and will pay him $5.5 million in 2014-15, $6.5 million in 2015-16, and $7.5 million in 2016-17, when he will be 33 years old.

  2. I always tried to stay close to the equipment guys. They help hold the place together. I say good for him if he has a decal.

    I broke my leg one year and missed spring ball. I put a helmet sticker on my cast and got my arse chewed by one of the assistant coaches but he didn't tell me to remove it.

  3. Despite what many internet personalities might have you believe about how the average NDSU fan feels about UND, the rivalry is alive and well.

     

    Even if you believe that on a regular weekend 18,500 is maxing out the NDSU fanbase(which I would disagree with), this game is not a regular weekend. I don't think it is too far-fetched to say that if this game was being played in a 35,000 seat stadium, it would sell out.

     

    I think a lot of these younger fans who think they've seen what an intense rivalry looks like, will be in for a surprise as this game approaches.

    Thank you.  I have been trying to tell some of the uneducated about this same thing for a while.   The intensity will ratchet up incredibly as the game approaches.  

  4. No one is being passive aggressive. NDSU is superior to UND in football and has been for 50+ years. We know it and you know it. Stop pretending that it ain't so.

    Hmmmm

     

    Trophy holder: UND won 28-21 on Oct. 18, 2003, in Grand Forks 

    Current streak: UND has won the last 3 nickel trophy competitions 

    Nickel-winning record: UND leads 35-30 

    All-time UND vs NDSU record: UND leads 62-45-3 

    UND has won 9 of the last 11 head to head.

     

    But then again you don't care because there is no rivalry.

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  5. Honestly, why does it matter so much whether UND is NDSU's biggest rival or not? Is that much of the self-image and self-worth of UND football fans really tied up in a rivalry that hasn't been played for over a decade?

     

    What have you people been doing for the last ten years? Football must have been pretty damn boring without NDSU to give your program purpose.

    It doesn't really matter except when some push the notion that 'we don't care about you and have moved on'. It's a passive aggressive way to say you are superior to UND.  

     

    If you and your friends go away and never post here again we will know you have moved on.  Until that happens you are showing your hypocrisy.  

  6. If your kids are in college, that means I can reasonably assume they are my age or younger. Last time the schools played I was 11. Your kids probably couldn't spell arrogance or entitlement the last time the schools played. Again, they don't like NDSU because dad taught them.

    The rivalry is so unbelievably real that I've had friends from up there ask every year if I can get them football tickets. They like to come cheer on the herd.

    You do realize that every time you post here you undermine your stance that the rivalry doesn't exist or that it is dead.  How much time do you spend on the SDSU and NIU fan sites?

     

    Not sure how you explain my son's roommate who is from Pittsburgh and has no ties to the area and dislikes everything NDSU - but whatever makes you feel better.   They really only need to experience one bb game to get it and they have played every year lately.

     

    My kids are pretty smart as evidenced by their college choice.  I'm sure they could spell both words by that time.  

  7. That animosity probably comes from dad. Same way it is with my family.

    Nope.  They experienced it first hand.  The arrogance and entitlement of SU fans at past fb games and at vb and bb games since they have been at UND really turned them off.  Their friends at UND feel the same way and many of them have no family ties to UND.

     

    Just because you say that students today don't care about the college that is 75 miles away doesn't make it true.  At a minimum they have hs classmates that attend the other school which makes the rivalry real.

  8. Do you know any young people at UND or NDSU? Any animosity between the two groups of students is essentially nonexistent. Those are your future fans/donors/etc.

    I have two kids currently enrolled at UND and there is plenty of animosity toward NDSU from them.   They also hate UM in hockey and we aren't in the same conference there either.

  9. That is interesting. I would be interested to know the identities of some of these Section 8 kids Gino didn't recruit but should have. Was Mack one? Obviously I remember the Christian's, Burggraf's, Bowen, Pelawa, Riendeau and a few others. In terms of kids UND didn't get, such as the Broten's and Erickson from Roseau, I assume that wasn't due to a lack of trying.

    I'm not saying it is justified.  It goes back before Craig Mack to the time of the Broten's in the mid to late 70's.  EGF, Bemidji and others fielded teams that competed pretty well with the Roseau teams but not many of those kids got a chance to play DI in college. 

  10. Given all the connections between current and recent graduate EGF high school players and UND, that would be bizarre if true.

     

    I don't doubt there's a certain segment of the long-time EGF population that resents Grand Forks, and by extension North Dakota and possibly even UND. However, what's the ratio of UND to UM grads in EGF? 20 to 1? 50 to 1? Maybe even higher? And how many EGF kids have ever played at UM in hockey? Any? None that I'm aware of. But I do remember Mishler, Bowen, Riendeau, Tyler Palmiscno, etc. Not to mention athletes in other sports such as Vonesh, Zeller, Perkins, Lueck, Brekke, etc.

     

    The reality is that unless somebody is a UM grad living in EGF, the fact that there are two EGF grads playing at UND, with another on the way, plus one on the women's team, should be enough to prefer UND over the Gophers.

    I am an EGF guy originally and there are a lot of Gopher fans there.  A lot of it goes back to the 1970s and 1980s when the general  consensus was that Gino ignored Section 8 and instead had mostly Canadian players.  I remember a jamboree or Section tourney at EGF in late 70's and supposedly every WCHA coaching staff had someone there to watch except UND.   Whether or not it was 100% true,  it was a popular story in EGF at that time.  Even though 40 years have passed many still hold onto things like that.

     

    My mother-in-law cheers for UM in hockey even though she had a son-in-law play fb at UND and three grandchildren go to school there and has zero ties to UM.  She knows the families of the current UND hockey players from EGF and also Dixon Bowen who has committed.    There is something to be said for loyalty and old allegiances die hard.

     

    A bunch of my hockey connected friends in EGF have started to cheer for UND over UM in the last 10 years or so as more EGF kids have played there.

  11. Only if he speaks to and tries to influence the kid directly...anyone can state an opinion...even if they are the color guy on TV.

     

    I'm also not sure if Louie is still connected enough to the U for it to be out of bounds...I mean alumni call recruits all the time as hockey family "friends"

    I don't know the rules either but Lou Nanne is definitely very connected to the U of M.  

     

     

    http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/blog/sports-business/2013/12/lou-nanne-gophers-fundraising-campaign.html 

     

    Lou Nanne—a Minnesota Gopher’s Athletic Hall of Famer and senior managing director at Minneapolis-based RBC Global Asset Management—has been tasked with raising funds to upgrade University of Minnesota sports facilities.

    The school recently announced that Nanne will lead fundraising efforts for a $190 million plan to build new Gopher football and basketball practice facilities, a “student-athlete academic and counseling center, nutrition and training tables, Olympic sports facilities, and other training and support needs for the University’s athletic programs.”

  12. No, I never said Bison fans would not want to go to the game. Of course they'll want to see the game ... they want to see the game no matter who NDSU plays. I'm just saying that the expectation that this game will be some gigantic event that NDSU people will pay anything to get into is just wrong. It truly will be just another game in the context of the whole season.

     

    As I said, the spike in demand for ticket prices (if there is one) will be primarily because of the proximity of a large number UND fans to the Fargo area. That's what makes this game different. Not NDSU's enthusiasm for playing UND.

    If the BS you are spouting was true you wouldn't be on a UND message board.  

     

    You can prove to everybody that this will be just another game by disappearing from this site for good and maybe kicking it up at the Incarnate Word or even the Weber State fan site.  You are up to 146 posts here, how many do you have on Weber State's fan board?

  13. Only the unedjucated would say that. The same people that insisted the majority of Sioux people were offended by the name for nearly a decade until the Fargo forum got a clue and asked them.

    The fact is that Standing Rock was set to allow a vote on the name until Murphy, their new tribal chair- who by the way was elected on a platform of supporting the name- did a 180 and blocked the vote that would have passed.

    Oh and this was the reality of the situation with no input or interaction by Kelley et all... It is more than reasonable to assert had Kelley been vocal and supportive of the name outwardly that our chances would have been better...

    Further, the fact that he didn't was perplexing which along with things like the summet situation created quite a curious happening to say the least.

    I am one of the people that always believed the Sioux people supported the nickname but also realized our options eventually ran out.  

     

    Standing Rock didn't vote and our deadline expired so the NCAA imposed sanctions, potential conferences were hesitant and larger schools wouldn't play us.  Only the uneducated and foolish still can't face the reality of the situation.  Continuing the fight was killing our sports other than hockey.   You don't need to believe me - just ask the UND coaches of sports other than hockey.  I have and they said the same as I stated above.

     

    I was pretty militant about keeping the nickname but eventually realized it was over.

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  14. That is not true.  The very embodiment of the settlement was that we DID have a way out.  The way out being actualized or not is not equivalent to not having a way out. Grossly faulty logic...

    At one time we did have a way out but most people would say all options were exhausted before Kelley took office. 

  15. More FACTs is:  The Commissioner of that joke league-the league which caused all of our opinions on how to handle the name issue to change because of fear of rejection by them- proclaimed that he was told to publically state that the league would kinda feel negative about the name if it was not removed and that something bad could happen.

     

    ...How is Florida State and Illinois doing with the with the problems this is causing them??? 

    Illinois and Florida State don't have the same issue we have so they don't really apply to this conversation.   Florida State got tribal approval and I am not sure what Illinois did to avoid problems.  

     

    You can pretend that we had a way out but we didn't and that happened before Kelley came into office.  The only program that wouldn't have been totally screwed was the hockey team.  That may be the only program some care about but it isn't the only one on campus.

     

    I was strong nickname supporter until the cost got too high.  It wasn't really a hard decision for those that care about a majority of the sports on campus. 

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  16. Most people understand that:

    1. we all loved the name
    2. we were willing to go to battle to the end
    3. the penalties from the NCAA and other universities (UM, Wisc, Iowa) finally got to be too much so we realized the best course of action was to move on
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  17.  

    A wise adviser has pointed out to me that:

     

    Jeanotte's concern was (in addition to "win") that if UND didn't give its fans a new identity for which to cheer, they would tend to cling to the identity they had; time has proven him correct. 

     

    Schafer's point was that UND shouldn't "transition from something to nothing." He recognized the importance of the university having a recognizable brand for its athletic teams. Others at UND in athletics and student recruiting -- not just recruiting athletes -- told Kelley the same thing during the one and only meeting of that "transition" committee. 
     
    Kelley believed, as Tim O'Keefe and Al Olson did at the time, that those who lost the nickname needed an appropriate amount of time to grieve for their loss, but their advice was in the minority.
     
    The diversity of opinions urging Kelley to adopt a new nickname coming from so many different areas (from Jeanotte to Schafer) should have been a clue and a red flag about appropriate action and direction the leader of the university should have taken. He chose the "do nothing" approach. 

     

    I'm not sure if you are saying Kelley is to blame for not settling on a new nickname immediately or not but didn't the legislature eventually mandate a 3 year cooling off period where we weren't allowed to choose a new nickname anyway?

  18. Inter-conference statistic p!$$ing contest aside, the men on this football squad are just good all around people and demonstrate it with things like this time and time again.

     

    Way to go, Dayo and Chris!

     

    http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/local/3685425-grand-forks-couple-avoids-homelessness-help-community

    I have met Dayo a few times and he is really an impressive person.   He is a good student and a Chemical Engineering major.  Our 2015 team and beyond will be in good hands if we have people like him on board.

  19. Wow, apparently I was at a different game tonight.  UND had many open shots in the 2nd half that they flat out missed- Coaching.   The offense worked to get open shots- they were just missed....but I know, everything is broken. Our half court D was really very good---not coaching.  We rebounded far better tonight than in other games--not coaching.  We also have some guys that just need to stop giving the ball away in certain spots of the floor- thats......wait for it........ coaching.  It led to easy hoops for Montana.    Yes, I know it must all be coaching instead of just some execution.  When they win...it's despite coaching when they lose- it's coaching.  When I wake up in the morning- its coaching, when I nearly got slid into the other day- its coaching. I finally figured out how this works. Its very easy. I feel better already. :silly:

    I was a few rows behind the bench.  90% of what Jones did was berate his players, whine to the officials or hang his head and pout.  I really don't mind a coach that gets after his players.  I also don't mind a coach that works the officials but he is really bad at it.  

     

    His body language with slumped shoulders and head hanging is really bad.  Maybe he is just beaten down by this point.  I don't know.

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