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Good questions. I didn't research how the poll was conducted

Something very similar rolled through 6 of us in my family in late February over 3-4 days. everyone was wiped out for 36-48 hours. First sick day for me at work in about 15 years. My wife and I spent close to $400 for dinner and Wild game and barely made it through the 1st period before heading home.

Huff Post poll so take it for what it's worth but support for stay at home hasn't wavered much.

I haven't seen or heard that proposed anywhere.

Hence the need to flatten the curve and give the supply chain a chance to get ahead of a surge. The hard part now is figuring out when we are ready to open things up and how fast.

I am surprised it took that long. Hang in there Ira. I really enjoy learning from what you and Keikla have to say.

Thanks for adding your perspective. Most, or all, of us on here really appreciate hearing your input based on your experience dealing with this thing.

I used to go to Munich every year for work and thought the same. I sometimes just ran across the intersection. One day I watched the cops writing 30 Euro tickets to people for walking against the light. A few were tourists and pleaded ignorance. Didn't matter. I started waiting for the light like everyone else.

thanks. i knew the number but mistyped. I'll edit it.

I listened to Osterholm again yesterday. Here is his take - don't blame the messenger here. He said that the 60k death estimate is based on Wuhan type lock down across the entire country through the end of August. that isn't possible in the US and we aren't locking people down at that level. It also only estimates deaths out thru August. The higher death estimates are based on less stringent distancing (he says more realistic here) and project out 12-18 months. He advises a very basic set of numbers for estimating deaths from this thing. 50% of Americans will get it = 160 million Best estimates based on data globally are 1% of those that get it will die from it = 1.6 million deaths*. He's still staying with that number. *edited

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For sure. I expect we normally prepare for the worst and hope for the best when it comes to health concerns. I am tapping out on this thread again. I try to stay away but it sucks me in every once in a while. Sorry for posting.

Yes. So we take measures to prevent that. You are making my point in that doing nothing to mitigate the spread would be like playing without a goalie. We are on the same page there.

Again - those weren't his numbers. They are based on science from the experts on what could happen if we did nothing. It is a way to lay out your case to explain why you are taking the actions you are taking. I will continue to take my information from epidemiologists and other experts in the field vs. a person on a message board bitching because not enough people have died.

he was relying on the data available per the science and that number was based on if we did nothing to mitigate the spread. I know that doesn't fit your narrative but at least be fair and acknowledge that. It is really just a math thing. R0 has been estimated at 2 to 2.5 if no mitigation. Really trying to lower that number and we have in MN. It has drastically been reduced. It also isn't over yet.

same is being reported here. Just depends on who you depend on for your narrative.

A story I read made estimates based on how many hours their crematoriums were running and how many urns were delivered to the funeral homes. They estimated the Chinese deaths at 42,000-46,000.

the real question is - Does 5G exposure cause people to come up with wild theories on conference realignment and schools moving up to the FBS division in football?

I sure hope it plays out this way. Positive thoughts

I haven't heard every interview he has done but the ones I have heard have been pretty consistent. I posted this earlier also. I hear Osterholm often on the radio and probably depend on his info too much. I just heard an interview from yesterday and he said the statistics say 160-214 million in US infected over the next 6-8 months. Also at very best 200k will die and up to 1.7M.

He's eligible right away?

I'm hoping there is some kind of framework like that even if it has to be modified as we go along.

Was this detail in his address? I haven't seen this communicated anywhere.

Walz is getting praise for consulting with all of the previous MN governors who are still living as this goes along. One could question the value of getting Jesse's opinion (and maybe Dayton's) but that's another story.

These aren't random numbers. He is relying on Michael Osterholm and his infectious disease group at the UM. These are the exact numbers that Osterholm has been stating since this thing broke.