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A second hand conversation whose source is the father of a kid going to a rival FCS school. Do you suppose he may have a reason to try to steer kids away from the king of the FCS hill? Maybe so his kids school has a better chance of climbing that hill? I think you would have a hard time finding a rival coach say anything bad about Klieman. But you think what you want. My guess if a story came out about Bubba like this from LkvlleNDSUfan, you may refute it also.

So what are we to believe? First we hear complaining about this NDSU staff continuing relationships with recruits and actually keeping in contact with them after they have committed to other schools. Now we hear they are being mean to recruits that commit elsewhere and burning all bridges? Same staff, but completely opposite tactics.

Weak and sad is lying about a rival because you can't compete with them on the field or in recruiting. Knowing the head coach a little I don't believe it. And I know a die hard UND fan very well that has kids on the same teams as Klieman's kids, and he doesn't believe it either. As much as he hates NDSU, he doesn't think Klieman would put up with this type of behavior. The coach was most likely surprised and somewhat silenced when he first heard from the recruit. He may have said the school he picked doesn't have the track record of developing players and winning like NDSU. He may have said we will see you on the field and hope to beat you. But it did not happen like LkvlleUNDfan would like everybody to believe. But believe what you would like if you can sleep better thinking NDSU is an evil empire.

Must have been Hedberg. They are having a hard time breaking him of the recruiting habits he learned at UND.

A little critical thinking tells me perhaps he is thinking maybe Boise State and Colorado State move to a P5 conference and Idaho gets a MWC invite. I know that is not in SiouxVolley's plan and it is extremely far fetched compared to conference with 2 or 3 schools that could possibly qualify or have a chance to be successful at the FBS level moving up at once, but I will go with that theory.

Where does he say Idaho's future is in an FBS Big Sky?

SiouxVolley says give it a couple of years. They haven't quite worked it out with Goodell if the top of the BSC is going to be their own conference in the AFC or NFC.

If there is a Big 12 north there would be no need to include BSC teams. They would take NDSU, SDSU, UNI and Illinois State and would have no need for any BSC teams. It's not happening, but if it did, it would not be good news for UND or their fans.

Yes Bison73, read between the lines. SiouxVolley is a master at it. Just like Fullerton said the Big Sky will be FBS in a couple of years, and UND joining the league was the main reason for making the jump. It not really in there, but that is what Fullerton is saying. Just ask SV.

You better hope they take more than the upper half of the BSC to the FBS.

Did NDSU offer the kid?

i never said kids with only one offer can't turn out to be good players. I even said NDSU has had D2 transfers and walk-ons contribute. I just don't think you want to fill your entire roster with them. But, I know, Bubba has proven to know what he is doing at the FCS level, with all of his National Champ.., ah multiple playoff appear,,, ah, with his two game improvement last year. By the way, NDSU got a commitment other than the no other FCS offer kid, a QB out of Kansas that UNI and all of the Dakota schools offered, and that includes Bubba.

So these kids were not in other elite camps? Are the other schools just poor talent evaluators that they didn't offer these kids after seeing them in person? I just don't know why everybody thinks because Bubba thinks they are FCS players that they must be great gets. He hasn't proven anything yet. He may prove to be right, but just because he saw them in person doesn't mean anything. These kids were seen by multiple other schools that chose not to offer.

Do they know what a booming economy is? They could have picked just about any other city in North Dakota and gotten a more booming economy.

My guess is these are not all full rides, so I would think they will be ok with numbers of schollies. All teams seem to find a way to sign 20-30 kids every year. I am not sure all these early commits are a good thing. NDSU has about the same amount and I am not sold that getting commitments this early is good without actually being able to sign them. If they have a less than spectacular senior season you are committed to them anyway, and if they blow up, they can easily de-commit and go elsewhere.

I am not saying any school should recruit based on which other schools are doing. And I'm not saying a kid with only one D1 offer won't turn out to be a great FCS or even a future NFL player. NDSU has had a couple of D2 transfers start for them on championship teams. Those kids probably had no D1 offers out of high school. I'm just saying because Bubba has said he and his staff are expert talent evaluators doesn't mean its true. My guess is Mussman has said in the past he and his staff were great talent evaluators also. It doesn't mean it is true. The same people predicting Bubba's rise to championships were predicts Klieman's crash and burn last year.

But you don't really know which direction Bubba is taking the program. He just got commitments from 4 kids that may not have had any others offers. Maybe they did maybe they didn't but nobody is reporting any. That is not to say that they won't turn out to be good players, but it is a waiting game. Wait another year or two, then you may get an accurate picture of where the program is headed.

So you are saying you wish UND didn't support their women's sports either? You don't give a s##t about women's sports, you just wish NDSU was flushing money down the toilet like UND is with their women's hockey, swimming & diving and tennis programs.

And UND chooses not to sponsor Wrestling and NDSU does. Wrestling is a sport sponsored by Class A schools and most Class B schools. Tennis, swimming and Hockey are Class A sports. If you go strictly by participation numbers, there are probably more high school wrestlers in ND than the other 3 sports mentioned combined. I guess UND doesn't care about the small school athletes in ND. I guess that is just a choice UND and their fans will have to live with.

Yes, the dome will be rocking Sept 19th, just like it will be against UNI, South Dakota, Missouri State, etc. I did find it rather interesting that Montana is .charging $10 more per ticket for the NDSU game than for their big rival Montana State,. I guess Montana must not be so thrilled with the addition of their rival UND to the BSC. Apparently according to Schlossy and UND fans everything is about making money, and it looks like UND is not much of a draw, in fact their lowest priced ticket of the season.

Yes, just ask Georgia Southern. They go win the Sun Belt their first year and are picked to win it again this year. Playing that FBS schedule last year sure hurt them.

Now that's funny. The upper FCS and UND in the same sentence. That proves Fullerton is full of it.

Are you implying a UND coach put pressure on a recruit by saying if he didn't accept the offer right away it may not be there later? I thought only NDSU football coaches did that?

It means with 9 full members it opens up a spot for UND to join and be Mayville"s travel partner. I would say give Jones 2 or 3 years and he could have them challenging for a conference title.

Actually many NDSU fans wished Wentz had gotten the starting nod over Jensen, They would have had a much better offense. However, how do you bench a QB that just won a National title? Wentz is certainly no Molberg or Studsrud, but I am glad NDSU has him.