MplsBison

I meant morally as in putting themselves above all the mud-slinging. Having the leadership to say "enough is enough, time to change". I no sympathy for cult Sioux hockey fans who would rather see the university burn to the ground than have to give up the Sioux nickname on the hockey uniforms.

If there were a way to let UND keep the Sioux nickname AND get them into the Summit AND get Big Ten teams to schedule them in other sports AND prevent the tribes from ever pulling that support, I'd be fine with that. That will never happen.

I assume you already know the outcome? What did they say?

I wonder if UNO would consider going DI and being a travel partner for UMKC in the Summit? They could play football with UND and USD in the Great West. And it would help if UMKC would start football too. To me there seems like the potential to be some really good travel partners in the Summit: UND-NDSU: 79 mi USD-SDSU: 115 mi UNO-UMKC: 186 mi IUPUI-IPFW: 128 mi (another one of my dreams) Oakland-Wayne State: 30 mi (another possibility) ORU - Oklahoma City Univ.: 101 mi

Ok lets say that the Standing Rock tribe has a vote and that vote also goes in a wide margin for keeping the nickname. So what? What does that mean? It surely does not mean that the leaders of the Spirit Lake and Standing Rock tribes are now forced into signing a long term agreement to let UND use the nickname.

The guy more or less spelled it out for you: this will never be over. Don't you get it? You might have won this time, but there are people on both reservations who will never let this issue die. They'll break contracts, go to court, etc. I have my doubts that the Standing Rock leaders will allow a vote, even if it was 99-to-1 for voting. We're at a point now where I think UND could really make a clear-cut line in the sand and put itself head-and-shoulders above this whole mess, morally, by announcing they will change the nickname.

I don't think you need to replace the interlocking ND at all. I think that's a great logo. Screw Notre Dame. Delaware and Michigan have the same helmet design, so what?

I guess he thought that going from scheduling 7 non conference games to scheduling 3 non conference games would fix all his problems. But when we were in transition, we were scheduling home/home with other scholarship programs. Now we're trying to bring in teams for guarantee games. Tougher sell.

I think this is the most reasonable course of action, even (and perhaps especially?) if the tribes vote to support the nickname. Go out on your own terms, get into the Summit, etc.

What about C Michigan and the Chippewa people? Obviously they're alive and well, there's even Chippewa in North Dakota.

This may be total BS and sorry if I offend any Sioux people on here, but from what I've heard the Sioux people are one of the most anti-government tribes in the nation. If that's true, then it may partly explain why it was so much easier for Utah and C Michigan to gain acceptance of their namesake tribes.

If there was a realistic chance that UND could join a different conference, then the Summit would be forced to consider locking UND up right now. But since there is no other conference for UND to join, the Summit can sit on the sideline, wait for the nickname to be dropped and it won't change anything. UND will still be added in time to play league games in 2011-12.

I don't understand why you think it's a complex issue...Douple doesn't want the Summit in any of the nickname press. It's just that simple.

Ok, why?

Yeah Ryan Chappel...as in the un-godly RB from GF.

I mean...was he permanently kicked off the team or out of school? What did he do? Why isn't he back yet?

According to http://travisliles.com/schedules/2009/bigsouth.html that would mean Stony Brook is only playing 4 home games this year. That doesn't make much sense for an established, scholarship FCS program. I wonder if one of those other away games was supposed to be a home game?

What ever happened to Chapelle?

If CC and Denver dropped down to the RMAC, that would work too. The point being that hockey is the only sport anyone cares about at the two schools and that sport would be scholarship DI in the WCHA.

Here here! Lets hope Chapman will give the OK to Taylor to begin negotiating with Faison. The ideal in my mind would be a home/home starting in Fargo in 09 and return to GF in 2012. The reasoning there is that we'll be going for 1 BCS game each season and we should have Montana State in Fargo 2010 and will have Geo Sourthern in Fargo 2011.

One of the things that was nice in the last 2 years of transition is that NDSU played 2 FBS games each year. Kind've gave the guys a goal to win those games since there was no playoffs. Going after 1 BCS and 1 mid-major FBS is not a bad way to do it during the transition.

Wagner isn't much higher than a DIII school in truth. I wonder if they have any scholarships, even though the NEC limit is somewhere around 30-40. A lot of these schools are DI bball schools that still want to have a varsity football team, but don't want to pay crap for it. But the NCAA makes them play in FCS because they have DI bball. So you get conferences like the Pioneer, MAAC and NEC that play as cheaply as possible.

I wouldn't expect much delay due to weather with the new artificial turf at your old stadium. NDSU tried but couldn't get new turf completely installed, so they can't use it yet this spring and the grass fields are soaked. Looks like more early mornings in the Fargodome.

Woodside is talented, no doubt. But there will be more Woodsides. I'm with Wyo...good big men in college bball are like having good interior DL in football.

I don't think it's that amazing. NDSU had 10k fans at the game, which is good for us. I'm guessing the hockey game had ~9k UND fans and ~9k whoever the other team was (assuming it was a Minnesota team). The true amazing thing is that there were 20k fans of schools from ND down in the cities watching the games and partying. Mpls/SP must love it when ND teams are playing in town.