Redneksioux
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49 minutes ago, 1972 said:
those two would have been locker slammed so hard, if i was there, they would just be waking up.
Are you regularly violent towards women?
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1 hour ago, Goon said:
Hmm. They accosted a seven year-old kid.
You work in law enforcement right? What is your opinion of what happened in this video.
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1 hour ago, Stockdamhockey said:
On page 425, yup. But I suppose you can mansplain to me why I am wrong.
@und1983 welcome to the Deep State!
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48 minutes ago, petey23 said:
Harris has worked hard, helped her superiors rise and she kept her head down and worked her way to the top.
Vice President is an important job. There are a lot of balls to juggle and Kamala can handle the load.
Love the locker room talk on here, trump would be so proud. Do you think she was paid to pee in front of the future president too?
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38 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
Long term effects will be no different than the long term effects of other viruses.
It’s easy to produce fear by saying “we just don’t know” that’s true. But we also have no reason to think it’ll be different than other coronaviruses in this respect.
We’ve discussed this a lot the last two weeks, so you know my stance on the total death count.
Based on the few months of data that we have we do have reason to believe the long term effects will be different from last coronaviruses. Less scarring on the lungs than the first SARS and MERS but heart and neurological problems look like they will be worse. What this means a year from now or years down the road we don’t know but around the world covid survivorship clinics are popping up and are seeing backlogs of patients.
To write this off as a two week inconvenience for nearly every person who catches it is not fair. I certainly would prefer to avoid catching the virus myself.
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6 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
I can’t agree with anything you’ve said here in my experience. Being obese is a death sentence, diabetes is a death sentence. Covid for nearly every person who gets it is a two week inconvenience, if that.
Except for the 160,000 plus Americans so far who have died. It’s well known by now that most live, what we don’t know is with what long term side effects, so by brushing it off as a two week inconvenience for most isn’t very fair.
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6 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
My point is to say, six months ago you didn’t care about your neighbors health. If we had cared enough to take care of ourselves previous to the pandemic, we would be fairing much than we are. Healthy people are far less susceptible and we are incredibly unhealthy as a country.
Of course we cared about our neighbor’s health 6 months ago. The difference is being obese or having diabetes then wasn’t considered a death sentence.
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18 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said:
The funny thing about comparing COVID to other causes is that it is literally a convenient label for tens (hundreds?) of thousands of deaths that were going to occur anyway. Patients in their 80s. 90s. Underlying conditions. Motorcycle accidents. How many "COVID victims" were likely to see their next birthday? How many were rotting away in LTC? How many had visits in the past 12 months from loved ones? How many were (mentally and spiritually) ready to die?
If you want to "rank" these things and be credible, I think you'd better be prepared to present some reasonably comprehensive data that shows each cause historically, and currently, and relative to one another. If you have a link, please share. A nice bar chart should do. And then, maybe, those of us who remain skeptical might actually listen.
Because until I see that kind of information, I'm going to continue to worry far more about heart disease and cancer than COVID. And motorcycles.
Until then, please remember...NOT EVERY DEATH IS TRAGIC. OR EVEN SAD. AND EVENTUALLY WE ALL DIE. The real tragedy here is if some of us stop living.
Could the same not be said about heart disease and cancer?
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10 hours ago, Bison06 said:
So the most important things to address are diseases that are contagious, not the ones that kill us at the highest rates?
It’s ironic that our lack of giving a sh*t about our health in this country and our obsession with quick “fix“ pharmaceuticals has made us much more susceptible to covid-19 than other countries who are much healthier.
You realize that covid is now our third leading leading cause of death right? Unlike heart disease and cancer it is contagious. We could do nothing and see if it can bypass those two.
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35 minutes ago, MrEdway said:
Ain't no bigger shithole in the US than Portland. See it on tv every day every hour.With the most incompetent mayor to ever hold office. Makes DeBlasio look like Einstein
Maybe we should start throwing pipe bombs at the protestors like this guy...
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/portland-police-seek-former-navy-seal-investigation
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3 minutes ago, homer said:
So they were making plans to have students back in the classroom and were told they couldn’t. County Gov’t made the decision a decision for them that they were planning on making themselves
It does matter because your post was intended to make it sound as Trump want sending his child to in person class when he fact is the school was told they couldn’t have in person classes.
they were not planning for full time in person classes they were planning for online only or a hybrid model.
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1 hour ago, homer said:
Lol. Even the Gov. of NY agrees that students should be back in school.
Correct me if I’m wrong but the school was planning on starting in person but was told by the county just very recently that in person classes would not be allowed. Is that over reach by the county dictating what private schools do?
Not that it matters but there’s plenty of info out there from three weeks ago stating this school was planning on either a part time hybrid plan or entirely online, with a final decision coming this week.
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54 minutes ago, TheFlop said:
Because the private school he attends is starting with an online model for all kids.
That’s odd, his parents are choosing what school he goes to. What happened to distant learning not being the answer and schools must reopen?
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1 hour ago, TheFlop said:
Definitely growing evidence that it is aerosol.....which does make masks minimally effective short of an infected person hawking a loogie on someone.
Some doctors disagree...
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44 minutes ago, TheFlop said:
Nursing homes are controlled, or at least controllable settings with an access point. It never ceases to amaze me the logic that people like you use by saying...."let's lockdown/impact/change as many lives as we can in the general public by cancelling/restricting activities" instead of doing the more common sense less intrusive approach of "let's control the access point". If an employee at the nursing home is scrubbing in/following the proper procedures the risk is minimal. If they aren't.....that's on the nursing home. If visitors can't safely enter, that's on the administration for not setting appropriate policies and the visitors for not being safe enough out in public given their want to periodically visit a nursing home. A high school senior missing prom wasn't and still isn't the solution.
A nursing home can only control so much when asympomatic employees could bring it in with no rapid test.
And People like me? Honestly I’d just like to see better mask usage put in place but then we’ve got the anti mask crowd claiming it infringes on their civil liberties and guys like you claiming evidence of herd immunity as the answer when there’s no evidence. A high school senior needing to go to prom vs the need to attempt to save some lives....now this is entitlement.
flame on!
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2 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
But how would you even do that logistically. Didn't they completely close their borders and isolate/quarantine all inbound travelers for 14 days? No way we could do that on a US scale with all of the possible entry points.
We'd need a plan at the federal level for starters.
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1 minute ago, Bison06 said:
Asia is a fine analogue, but we can learn almost nothing in the US from New Zealand IMO. They are an isolated island with a total population the size of the Minneapolis area.
I know New Zealand is a much smaller scale, but they've been successful. We should consider mirroring what they have done on a much larger scale.
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2 minutes ago, TheFlop said:
So are you saying that nursing homes aren't currently requiring all vendors/visitors to wear appropriate masks/sanitize.....and take other precautions like limiting number of visitors/visits? Because if not, once again that's on the nursing home not on the 18 year old kid that missed his football season this fall in Minnesota.
No I'm not saying that. I believe vendors at most would be required to wear masks and sanitize. But are gowns being used by vendors? And is ppe being discarded when going from patient to patient? This just isn't possible because they don't have enough ppe to follow standard infection control practices that have been used in hospitals for years. Yes six months into this and we still don't have the needed PPE.
The best solution I'm aware of right now is to attempt to reduce the number of infected coming in and in order to do so we need to reduce the number infected in the general public. A rapid test before entering would do wonders too.
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4 minutes ago, 1972 said:
so if it could be brought in to any facility by just about any means, what is the point of shutting buisnesses down? are we really helping anything? are we just trying to appease the huddled masses? would going on about our lives as normal really change the numbers at all? nobody knows for sure. we are throwing darts at a dart board and hopping it works.
(p.s. if masks truely worked as hoped, asia would never have had a problem. they have been wearing mask everyday for decades because their air quality is so poor)
Theoretically if there were less individuals infected, less would get into the nursing homes right?
Actually masks have worked pretty well for Asia, I understand they wear them based on their past experiences with viruses as well. Also check out how New Zealand has fared.
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3 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
Has the idea of asymptomatic carriers who spread the disease been fully vetted out? I've heard so many different things in the last 5 months.
As far as I know, it hasn’t been fully vetted out. I’d hope symptomatic individuals wouldn’t be showing up to work in a nursing home at this point though. Could be getting in from vendors or visitors too. Or on packages? Or all the above.
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7 minutes ago, TheFlop said:
Who's bringing the virus into the facility? Maybe those people that are exposing vulnerable people to the virus should be more careful? Me going into Hugo's to buy a milk without a mask or my kid playing a basketball game isn't the one doing it.
More than likely it is asymptomatic staff.
You can't expect PPE to be 100% foolproof in a medical facility when it's being re-used because there's not enough to change it out between patients.
If you go into Hugo's or a basketball game and are an asymptomatic carrier, you definitely are not helping the situation. Plus Hugo's is asking you to wear a mask while in their store, why do you feel a need to go in without one?
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11 minutes ago, TheFlop said:
Your first question I (and frankly no one) can help you if you can't comprehend. A virus needs a host.....if it runs out of hosts...it runs out of people to spread it.
As to the outbreak you cited in Grand Forks, I specifically said people able to handle it. People in long term care facilities are a vulnerable population and require a higher level of protection. Apparently medical grade masks worn by trained medical personnel wasn't enough to prevent an outbreak.......maybe it would have helped to make them wear the same cloth masks that somehow are supposed to keep everyone safe in Hugo's.
I understand a virus needs a host. So I will ask again, where in your article is the evidence that herd immunity is the answer?
In the nursing home's case, I'd argue that maybe it would help if there was less of the virus coming into the facility. But that would infringe on too many others' civil liberties right?
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1 minute ago, 1972 said:
reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
Elaborate for me then. Specifically how does the article provide evidence that herd immunity is the answer to covid19? Or is my question too difficult for you to comprehend?
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19 minutes ago, TheFlop said:
Ok I feel sorry for you so I will explain. People previously got sick with a virus/viruses....contrary to liberal beliefs this is not something that just started happening in March 2020....been happening since the beginning of man/woman/non-binary/LGBTGIQWQIAGFF people. For those with normal immune systems (the majority of the population) getting these viruses has trained your immune system to be able to fight off that viruses and future viruses. The people that didn't live in a bubble and didn't have pre-existing problems with their immune systems have fared fine with Covid. The more Covid spreads through people that are able to handle it......the fewer people there will be going forward to keep catching it and spreading it to others that maybe can't handle it.
It really is a bandaid quick or slow type of thing.....and I understand why the bandaid wasn't yanked off right away.....but the slow peel of the last 4-5 months has been ridiculous.
No need to feel sorry for me, though I'm sorry you are struggling to comprehend the meaning of evidence. While I see what you are saying, this is not what it says in your article that you claimed as evidence. Where is the evidence from your article that you can claim herd immunity is the answer to Covid 19?
You realize the nursing home in Grand Forks is currently experiencing an outbreak right? Are you suggesting they should have their employees to retract their oathes, get rid of PPE, and just let this thing make it's way through so we can hurry up and get to your evidence based theory of herd immunity with Covid19? Why do you think they are going back to lockdown mode? Is Valley Senior Living ran by a bunch of liberals?
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So this case would be an exception to your “if they swing first” rule? How many women have you knocked out cold?