Redneksioux
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2 minutes ago, Kab said:
do you think some rancher farmer wouldn’t go after these so called peaceful protesters if they came thru his fence or road and started crap like they were doingthey would probably just shoot at them as look at them twice
maybe we need more old west justice
Based on what I'm reading here, protesters wouldn't last too long in rural North Dakota.
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4 minutes ago, dmksioux said:
The "mob" was beating their chest to show power by marching in an area they had no business being in. The property owners were returning the favor, letting them know what would happen, should they turn their "peaceful protest" into looting/property damage. So it's ok for them to march on private property illegaly but it's not ok for someone to show they will defend that property, should the protest get out of line? Ok, got it.
Go ahead and show force, but do not point gun at someone/something you do not intend to shoot.
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2 minutes ago, 1972 said:
the reason they had no intentions is because they HAD guns....simple concept
so now that their guns are gone, their mansion is burning?
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6 minutes ago, MrEdway said:
You cheer cop killing...I cheer thug killing.
I do not cheer cop killing.
Are you a boogaloo boi?
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51 minutes ago, dmksioux said:
Yes, I think it will play very well to Americans who are sick and tired of the looting and lawlessness being allowed in democratic run cities. Enough is enough and many Americans are beginning to help law enforcement defend their property and businesses. Many examples of this going on.
There's a big difference between defending your property and pointing guns at people that showed no intention of even stepping foot on your property.
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12 minutes ago, MrEdway said:
About time. Worthless anti American thugs.
Great people on both sides here!
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15 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said:
Ok... ooooo you're so close, this is like watching a neaderthal discover fire..
Correct none of those bad things happened....
why.....
Try real hard I know it hurts but you're ALMOST there....
Good people with guns had the courage to stand up for their rights and property.
They MOST DEFINITELY had the intention of shooting ANY of the riot scum if they chose to continue those actions.
As would I and millions and millions other gun owners would,
and will......If necessary.
Guns worked as the detefent here.
I get it now, they saved the whole gated community from being burned. Hero's they are indeed:)
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1 hour ago, Sioux>Bison said:
Missouri’s Castle law will overrule that law. This is why many have called for this frivolous lawsuit to be dismissed and the prosecutor disbarred!
right or wrong can be debated but the legally had a right to show force to protect their property.
We shall see.
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7 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
So what's the problem then? The republicans are highlighting this incident as an example of law abiding citizens being persecuted on prosecuted for following the rules. (Rightfully so)
Why is it ok to take away someone's rights because you happen to disagree personally with their actions?
They broke no laws, but their names will forever be associated with this incident and trying to run a personal injury practice will be nearly impossible for them. I would sue the pants off of anyone I could if I was them too.
I’m all for defending and upholding the 2nd amendment as I’m sure you are as well.
You really think putting these two front and center is going to help that cause?
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Just now, Bison06 said:
Being charged and being convicted are two very different things.
I’m no attorney, but I’d say they have a pretty easy defense given the laws on the books.
The reason they are invited to speak is exactly what’s happening in this thread. You don’t like them or agree with their actions so you are trying to take away their rights. ie Cancel culture.
Cancel culture is a real problem and at times subverts people’s rights when the mob doesn’t like what they’ve said.(doxing)
Give them their day in court sure. I do disagree with their actions and am fine letting the court decide whether they are responsible enough to be gun owners. They can speak at the RNC all they want, I'm sure they will represent well.
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12 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
It seems like you are conflating what you personally would do and what they by definition have a “right” to do.
In Missouri, the presence of a fence constitutes a warning to would be trespassers. If they breach said fence they are now criminally trespassing and could be arrested and held civilly and criminally liable.In reading further, Missouri has a “castle doctrine” law on the books that allows property owners to use physical force to defend their property.
These people seem well within their “rights” with their actions.
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-53891184
They are being charged with unlawful use of a firearm which is a felony as they did not have the right to be pointing guns at people. Also the property the protestors were on is owned by a trust that residents pay to maintain that includes private security. I doubt the McCloskey's are the paid private security. The fact that the RNC is inviting them to speak is laughable and says alot about the current state of the Republican Party.
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2 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said:
so...it may be safe to say there is a substantial likelihood that these folks, as owners of the gated community, have a right to prevent trespass?
Maybe so but maybe not. It still doesn't give them the right to be pointing guns at people.
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5 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said:
Who owns the gated community?
I'd assume the community or HOA? I don't believe the road or sidewalk is the couple's own private property but I could be wrong.
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5 minutes ago, Bison Dan said:
When you have a mob breaking into a gated community that has been burning and looting they have every right to have a show of force. I'm sure you'd have invited them in!
Yet this mob didn't burn or loot anything. I wouldn't have invited them in. I also wouldn't have pointed guns at them.
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17 minutes ago, 1972 said:
how in the world do you think it is not their property? its a gated community. that usually means that all residents of that community own it
I believe the road and sidewalk belong to the gated community. The protesters may have been trespassing, but they were NOT trespassing on this couple's property. The couple had no right to point their guns at hundreds of people. If you think they were in the right to point their guns at people and would do the same yourself, you should probably enroll yourself into a gun safety class before using your firearms again.
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1 minute ago, 1972 said:
wrong, it is their property. and yes i do
I certainly hope you don't point guns at people that you believe are on your property, when in all actuality they are not.
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2 minutes ago, 1972 said:
gated community= their property. and yes, yes it does.
It may be private property but it is not the couple’s property. You don’t own any guns, do you?
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1 minute ago, petey23 said:
It was a gated community so there is that.
So the gate got breached. That justifies pointing a firearm at people that have not stepped foot on your property?
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2 minutes ago, petey23 said:
These people had two options in guarding there home.
1. Come outside and show the vermin that they were armed and would protect their property in hopes that the dirt bags would move on.
2. Set up inside the home and start shooting once their home was breached.
How many homes on that block were breached?
did anyone even step foot on this couple’s property?
Any responsible firearm owner understands you only point your weapon at something you intend to shoot. These two wouldn’t be considered very responsible gun owners.
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8 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
This is really naive thinking man, I’m sorry to say. A business can’t adapt with both hands tied behind its back.
Maybe it is and I understand that they cannot operate with both hands tied behind their back. Personally I don't agree with what Walz has done with the blanket covid restrictions. I guess one could always choose to go somewhere else where they can operate the way they'd like, not like I've never heard "you don't like it, move to Canada".
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1 minute ago, bison73 said:
Its obvious you arent in the business.
I’m not in the restaurant business and won’t pretend to be.
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33 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
In Minnesota, bars and restaurants were forced closed(take out only) on March 16th. They were allowed in an extremely limited capacity to re-open on June 10th.
Closed Article: https://twincities.eater.com/2020/3/17/21183222/all-minnesota-bars-restaurants-ordered-closed-governor-tim-walz
Opening article: https://patch.com/minnesota/southwestminneapolis/livestream-walz-announce-next-steps-minnesota-covid-19
To this day restaurants have limitation on them that make them significantly less profitable if profitable at all in many cases.
Some of the best restaurants in the Minneapolis area have closed permanently.
Edit: I should add, many restaurants chose not to stay open during the “take out only” phase because there is no money in take out for many fine dining establishments. People aren’t going to pay $80 for a filet at manny’s you have it taste like junk by the time they get it home.
See but those restaurants weren’t forced to fully close, there was still room to adapt and offer takeout. And there is a way to transport a good steak. I understand the fine dining is difficult without the dining room but there are also establishments that have thrived.
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4 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
I'm not sure how much you know about small businesses, but this is absolutely not the case. Most small businesses are just like most lower income households. They are just scraping by, especially restaurants, even the really successful ones. Being asked to close your business for months and then when you do come back having a capacity reduction mandated on you is a death sentence.
I bartended in college and got to know our GM pretty well to the point where I was aware of the finances of the bar/restaurant. If we missed the revenue from one weekend a month we couldn't make ends meet. Just one weekend. Imagine closing for 2-3 months.
I know a little bit about small business, though I’m in ND where very little were required to fully close. Where were restaurants asked to fully close for 3 months?
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9 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
I suggest we do what we've done since the beginning of time.
Isolate yourself if you are vulnerable and if you are actively sick stay out of public places and/or limit your exposure to others.
Wash your hands, use good hygiene when coughing or sneezing.
This is what we've always done and now we've come full circle on Covid too. We over-reacted on a massive scale and people's lives were ruined and/or stolen from them in cases of suicide and murder rates this year. It disgusts me that nobody will ever admit that and take responsibility for the destruction they've unleashed on our society.
During the 1918 flu pandemic we did more than asking people to stay home when they were sick and to practice good hygiene though. Also you don't need to go back too far to see how other countries have overcome other viruses.
It's been said countless times on here that people dying with Covid were already on the ledge and about to die anyways. Couldn't the same be said of the businesses that have not been able to adapt or have failed during these times?
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Another perfect example of people not qualified to be handling firearms. Concerning to see the police picking a side here.