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  1. 40 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

    Even if it isn’t the sole reason, what percentage of inflation are you ok with making significant decisions off of?

    We are making massively impactful decisions off of this data and they have basically admitted the data is inflated. 

    How is that ok?

    How exactly is increasing testing inflating the data?

     

  2. 14 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

    So given that, do you understand why people are frustrated with representatives and the media touting increased cases as a problem and a reason to keep restrictions in place?

    I don't buy into the idea that increased testing is the sole reason for increased positives. Is it a factor, sure. But to claim increased testing is the sole reason for higher infection counts is ridiculous.

  3. 1 hour ago, TheFlop said:

    It's the one place where mask wearing has been 100% compliant, or at least closest to it.  

    Shouldn't have been any deaths or at least a very low number of masks work.  

    Obviously masks alone aren't the answer.

     

    You realize there are some long term care facilities that are doing very well right? The one I know of doing exceptionally well has implemented PPE guidelines(including masks obviously), social distancing, limiting visitors, weekly testing, and the employees are taking an oath to be responsible. I don't think it would be possible to be an anti-masker and take this oath honestly.

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  4. 14 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

    With those numbers and one death in MN under 20 plus the effectivenes  of masks which are "proven to work" there should be no reason Walz won't reopen all school in MN face to face.......right?

    Walz lost me when he ordered the third precinct to be abandoned. What do do with schools, I don’t have the answer.

  5. 31 minutes ago, TheFlop said:

    Approximately 77% of MN Covid deaths have been in nursing/long term care homes.  Places where even for "milder" outbreaks like flu outbreaks masks are worn by staff and visitors are restricted.  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.twincities.com/2020/07/21/mn-gov-walz-battle-plan-coronavirus-deaths-in-long-term-care/amp/

    Ineffective?

    Since 77% of MN Covid deaths have been in long term care facilities, you've deemed masks ineffective?

     

  6. 5 minutes ago, Cratter said:

    You somehow ignore Fauci saying dont wear a mask during the first peak of the virus.

    A guy that has been a expert in the field for over a 100 years. 

    When he "changed his mind" he claimed "ppe".

    He could have simply said "if you cant socially distant and everyone pulled up their shirt above their nose and we all do this for two to four weeks, we can have this coronavirus under control."

    One side definitely made their stance on masks and social distancing political and it wasn’t from fauci.

     

    it was only a few weeks ago the right wingers were touting their rallies where they were intentionally not social distancing or wearing masks.

  7. 8 minutes ago, homer said:

    If the experts opinions on masks can change and it’s acceptable, so can the presidents.  

    The experts changed their mind on masks when they saw it wouldn’t cause a shortage of ppe to the hospitals.

     

    trump changed his mind when he was finally able to swallow his pride and admit it was the only way to save himself from political suicide.

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  8. 37 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

    Went to a local grocery store early this morning (with a mask on).......half the employees not wearing masks. Store policy doesn't mandate masks at this point. In the future what should be my verbal and/or physical response to those "buffoons"? 

    At this point, I'd shop at a different grocery store.

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  9. 16 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

    I know exactly why they did it. Doesn’t matter, in fact that makes it worse, they told a bold faced lie. 
     

    So they flat out lied to us and you think they have our best interests in mind? Whose to say they aren’t giving us more BS half truths in July that will later be justified by “we know what’s best for you”

    I 100% agree with you. 

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  10. 11 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

    This is the tone I can’t get on board with. Name calling and judgement. Four months ago, the “most knowledgeable person on the planet” on this subject told people not to wear masks, not four years ago, not four decades ago, four months. Now that advice has changed, but could change back at any moment it seems given the consistency of the message we get from our medical community.

    If you want to be upset with someone, and call anyone buffoons, be upset with the “experts” for their lack of a consistent message, not at the people who are fed up with a government that consistently lies to them and changes “facts” depending on which way the political winds are blowing.

    I apologize for calling them buffoons:)

    Why do you think the experts advised against masks initially?

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  11. 34 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

    Not questiining the overall death total but IIRC the CDC has noted a decrease in weekly death totals the past 10 weeks. 

    I think everyone would like to hope that covid is becoming less deadly but we have no solid data to back up that hope yet. 

    If you take a look at the NCHS Mortality Surveillance Data Chart the weekly US death average has dipped below 7,000 deaths per week five weeks ago. But many deaths from the past several weeks have not yet been counted...

    "Data for recent weeks are incomplete, and the PIC percentage may increase as more death certificates representing deaths during these weeks are processed."

     

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/07172020/nchs-mortality-report.html

     

     

     

     

  12. 13 hours ago, UND1983 said:

    Not Covid-19.  Not even close.  I realize this thread is now a complete cesspool but lets try and at least get deaths correct.  

    What country do you live in? Covid started killing US citizens in March. It’s now mid July. 140 days and 140k deaths later, here we are. Would you like to look at the past month? Past week? Or would you like to see yesterday’s numbers that haven’t been fully counted yet? Here’s the data but warning it may be too difficult to understand.....

     

    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths?country=~USA

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  13. 5 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

    Why is that relevant?

    If one life can be saved...isn’t that what we’re being told?

    shut down your business and go bankrupt if it’ll save one life.

    pull your kids out of school and set them back irreversibly if it’ll save one life.

    can’t or won’t do the above? You’re selfish and only think about yourself and money.

     

    We are a ways beyond one life....140k plus.

     

    Anyways family time now. Have a safe, socially distant, and masked evening siouxsports!

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