Chewey

The rag does not get a pass from me. You're not too familiar with techniques in propaganda are you? The rag slants the story. Consider the following passages Dupris has been visiting Sioux officials on the arena's behalf since early this summer, part of an arena attempt to improve its relations with Sioux tribes, which are strained over UND's continued use of the Sioux nickname. AND UND-NCAA lawsuitUND is suing the NCAA over a 2005 policy barring schools with American Indian logos and nicknames from displaying those logos and nicknames during postseason play or hosting playoff games. Out of 20 schools originally subject to the restrictions, UND is the only school still fighting the policy. All other schools on the list have either stopped using American Indian imagery or won an NCAA waiver, usually by gaining the endorsement of a nearby namesake tribe. The first misstates relations with the tribes. Relations are certainly strained with certain PC hacks within the tribes and with certain PC hack professors. The relations are not strained with most members of the tribe like the veterans group that this guy engaged. There was another big-wig -- I want to say that it was Mr. His Horse is Thunder -- on the tribal judiciary or something who supported the nickname. Most support the nickname but the rag focuses only on a few PC hacks and claims that relations are strained. As to the second passage, I thought UND was suing the NC00 over not fairly administering and not complying with their 2005 "policy." I thought UND was suing over the arbitrary and capricious manner that the NC00 applied its "policy" as to UND. I thought UND was suing the NC00 because it did not follow its own procedures/constitution in adopting a "policy," without input or voting from its membership, applied to all schools. The "Out of 20 schools...." blather is a passage the rag writers always use to make UND appear "unreasonable" and the rag fails to mention the 2000 resolution from the Spirit Lake tribe. Friend, you had better get out your brown shirt and red arm band as you are evidently easily convinced/deceived through such techniques.

I would venture to say that it is representative of the vast majority opinion on the reservation. I'm not sure how many veterans it speaks for though.

If UND were to win and if the matter were taken to a higher court, the reviewing court would have to consider the factual findings of a jury and not Judge Jahnke. Any factual findings would be entitled to great weight and would not be disturbed unless there was clear error. Somehow, I don't think that a jury's finding that the NC00 failed to follow its own clearly dictated policies and procedures could be construed as clearly erroneous. You seem to think that the issue will "disappear" when and if a "neutral logo" is adopted. Presumably, this is when the whining of the PC crowd would cease. Somehow, you think that those in favor of the logo/name would simply forget about it. Did you not read the several articles about Dartmouth? ? ? ? ? The Dartmouth experience would pale in comparison to UND.

It's really inappropriate for a Judge to comment to the media about a case. I am not certain if it is a violation of judicial ethics; it think it may be. If the Judge is commenting on it, perhaps they are close to a "settlement" of some sort. Although the O.J. Simpson matter was a criminal matter instead of a civil one, I do not even think Lance Ito commented to the media until after the case was over. Maybe Jahnke wants to get booted off of the case.

I have never figured out why that moron was not fired. Obviously, no one had a spine at all. Slandering an institution like that certainly would be actionable and certainly should have served as a reasonable basis to get rid of that kook. I bet the prospective athletes simply did not attend the UofI because they found out that loons like that idiot might be teaching them. One would think the alumni would have had enough of him. How would you rate him compared to Ward "Indian Wannabe" Churchill?

That's just it though. I agree entirely that there are more important issues facing the members of that tribe and all indians. But, certain tribal members have found enough time to not only voice opposition to the name but also actually meet with with NC00 about the "policy" of the NC00 vis-a-vis UND.

I remember Dark Star's and Brian Bonin's arrogance before they came to Grand Forks om 1996. Strikingly similar to the NC00. They got their asses kicked when they got there. Hopefully, the same will happen to the NC00 if ND has any backbone.

It's the Herald's duty to report FACTS in an unbiased way. The job of a news agency is to report FACTS. If the news agency has an opinion element, that's one thing. ScottM is not a news agency but I am sure he or any one of us could still write about this issue with more objectivity than the Herald reporters. Lack of objectivity in reporting just causes people to dig their heels in on the other side and causes people to recognize the Herald for the fish wrap that it is. Its idiocy and lack of relevancy are the only things that are revealed. The only things more nauseating than reading the Herald or listening to the nickname change crowd are listening to Dark Star (force fed upon us here in MN), reading the Gopher section of the Star and Sickle, and listening to Gopher fans at games at Mariucci.

So what do you all think can be read from Paulsen's comments? Do they mean that there will be an imminent wobbly fest? I don't think the university/state would spend 600K just to go all wobbly at this point but that is just my opinion. What do you think is going on behind closed doors between the AG and the Board and between UND/state and the NC00?

Yes, I agree with a big NO. It would be a name-calling fest and you know that it would not take long for it to become infested with anti-nickname loons. Pretty soon, everyone would just get so frustrated that they'd stop even accessing it. It would be one thing if people could keep it civil -- no Hitler analogies and no "anti-nickname loons" like what I say all of the time -- but that's not possible. If people were able to keep things to the Disraeli -- Gladstone level of discourse, where there was positive discussion and the insults were subdued but very witty, it would be one thing. There are a few that rise to this level -- Scott M, PCM, Chief Illini, Goon, HockeyMom, maybe even Gothmog, and some others -- but I am certainly not one of them.

I would hope that the new board would have as strong of a spine as the old one. Perhaps settlement terms were thrown around in there. I guess the board is more or less the "client" or one of the clients. Whoever said it was quite right.....all the NC00 has done is empower lunatics. Since the NC00 executive board is full of lunatics, I guess there is some consistency. It would be nice to see exactly who has been deposed, what interrogatories were interposed and what the answers were.

Any speculation as to what this means?

In 80's vernacular, "gay" meant dumb or stupid. "That's gay" or "it's gay" were very common expressions. I'd be surprised if there was a problem with gay people. I'm sure he/she just employed a non-PC word without meaning anything by it other than that the Black album and Metallica's hair cuts were stupid. They were stupid. I've always disliked that band because they got rid of Mustaine. I especially disliked them after their Napster opposition. It's inevitable, however, that the recording industry will continue to lose control and that people will get music cheaper and cheaper. It's poetic justice for the raping and pillaging the RIAA did to the consumers for decades.

Have any of the alumni sought to remedy this? I know they're well-entrenched but there must be a way of exorcising them. Perhaps the heads of the UofI alumni association should speak with the heads of the FSU alumin association. I thought Dennis Hastert or some big wig Congressman or Senator was an alum of the UofI and was really pieved by all of this obsequiousness to the PC loons. Get rid of the pussillanimous wimps.

It does not surprise me that the PC loons are now going after the name, the music, etc. What did the UofI expect after caving in? Depending on the outcome of the UND matter, the UofI may have some precedent (in terms of procedure not law) to follow. If someone grows a spine there, they can take it to the NC00 too. All that the "compromise" did was embolden the wack jobs. Where does it end? The only way is to fight them and expose them.

That would make too much sense and would be too rational of a course. Of course not. What else would the PCers do if they did not have the nickname "cause" Would they actually work? That's even more preposterous.

Exactly! It's a control issue at its core. It's entirely narcissistic and completely lacking in emotional integrity. "Respect," "Dignity," alleged nescience with respect to those who disagree -- all punch lines only. They make for good hyperbole though.

Maybe its up to others not to create things and to not be offended unnecessarily. Your logic is twisted. Everyone is offended some of the time. I'm offended that the PC nuts are trying to ramrod this garbage down everyone's throats. Isn't it your duty and theirs not to offend me then? Your "respect and dignity" evidently applies only to a minority of a minority and "everyone" evidently only contemplates that minority of a minority. How myopic. This is just the sort of twisted, sanctimonious equivocation that is employed by the NC00 and the elitist, holier than thou, self-proclaimed "advocates" that support the NC00. Hie thee to a plastic bubble.