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Siouxnanigans: It sure seems strange that you need to identify your fan allegiance are each time you post. All of your posts have taken subtle and not so subtle jabs at UND. You've been called on this by mutiple posters. Let's end the charade now.

For the record, none of my posts have been demanding any UND/NDSU game this year. I actually agree with your assessment of Taylor

Congrats to the Sioux women on another NCC title!! My one hope for this team during the tournament is that lose any fear of failing and finish their games with confidence.

If you can actually understand the business logic behind NDSU delaying any games until 2009, why are you and so many other Bison fans so bitter about UND not playing NDSU during their transition? Besides hurting UND's football team playoff chances, the exact same logic applied to UND's decision four years ago. Now, when the circumstances are reversed, you are defending the very same business considerations that UND used. NDSU broke a business relationship with UND by going to DI at the time, and yet demanded special considerations from us so they could leave us in the dust. There's a word for this logic: hypocritical. BTW, I personally have no expectations whatsoever of any NDSU/UND games until 2009.

I am competitive, but not hateful. Seemingly you don't understand the difference. As far as a school song, does "On the Plains" ring a gong in your bell? As further evidence of UND's lack of obsession with NDSU, the thought of UND fans, when playing Minnesota, starting an anti-NDSU chant is absurd. For NDSU fans in a similar circumstance, anti-UND chants were a reality.

When NDSU fans accusingly talk about the hatred between the schools, they are speaking about their own heart-felt emotions. There is a very one-sided hatred here and it is not coming from UND fans. Look at the Bison board (heaven help me): it is filled with screed after screed of UND venom. Here, there are less than half the number of posts, and many of them are by Bison fans or Bison fans masquerading as Sioux fans. When NDSU changes its school song that is mockingly derogatory and obscene about UND, and when NDSU fans no longer rejoice in that song, then I could possibly agree that the emotions in this issue are not one-sided.

This is rewriting history. Of all sports, football was the one everyone agreed that NDSU would have success. Basketball and most of the Olympic sports were the ones that everyone agreed NDSU would need to write off. Miles and his basketball team, more than anyone, has proven this wrong. But then again, look at SDSU's mens team- that what was anticipated for NDSU. BTW, SDSU women's team has proven that a former NCC team can be highly competitive in DI.

You really have to distinquish between players and programs. Great players can come from anywhere, and the hungriest ones are maybe even more likely to come from less wealthy families. In the 40's, 50's and 60's, when outdoor ice was the standard, the working class schools prevailed. Now, relative to most other sports, hockey at a program level does take money, especially as access to ice time during the off-season grows in importance.

I would agree with UND92,96. Look at Minnesota hockey. Formerly, the schools from the Range, as well as St. Paul city schools (like St. Paul Johnson), and blue-collar suburbs like South St Paul and Richfield were hockey powers. Now, the top ten rated hockey schools in Minnesota highly correlate with wealth. -->1. Holy Angel$ 2. Moorhead -->3. Roseville -->4. White Bear Lake -->5. Edina 6. Roseau -->7. Duluth Ea$t -->8. Cretin-Derham Hall -->9. Hill-Murray -->10. Minnetonka -->$$$'s Only two of the top 10 schools are from "average" areas. In Minnesota football and especially basketball, there is much less correlation. Against that list (and what surburban blue line clubs are able to raise), Roseau and Moorhead's accomplishments are truly remarkable.

The Fargo Forum editorial board joyously throws its barbs:

Don't disagree with your statement, but membership upgrades within Team Makers and within the Fighting Sioux Club especially important, probably more so than membership increases. If the Fighting Sioux Club reached out nationally to alumni out-of-state, that's probably the largest untapped market for UND.

Even selling out the Alerus is not going to bring in anywhere near the type of funding that will propel a DI move. At most $250,000 will be gained, more likely $150,000. For that matter, NDSU's football attendance is not the big revenue driver that some of its fans claim it is. NDSU's boosts in revenue seem to be coming from Teammakers and private donations, as any football revenue increases seems to be offset by basketball attendance declines, at least in past years. Having one game against a IA BCS opponent will potentially be worth more than an season of Alerus sellouts.

2006-7 Attendance to Date NDSU Football 81886 NDSU Men's BB 25510 NDSU WBB 14581 NDSU VB 4412 NDSU Wrestling 126389 UND Football 52963 UND MBB 23754 UND WBB 26501 UND VB 3968 UND Hockey 191594 UND WH 4943 303723 With (hopefully) probably four more hockey games and women's BB playoffs, UND attendance will practically triple NDSU's.

And no spin related to your previous post pigeonholing UND to the MidCon because of our "strong" South Dakota ties.

St. Louis Post-Dispatch: 'Next level' for SIUE Why would downtown St. Louis commerical interests care about a suburban school 25 miles from the city that has no intentions of playing any games in St. Louis itself? IMHO, the only fathomable answer is that St. Louis sees the potential of hosting the MidCon basketball tournament annually as highly probable. In many respects, UND's DI move will differ from other schools in that, football, not basketball is the driving force.

Sic: The whole east side tower has gotta be just an architectural screwup - what on earth could that tower possibly be connecting to? Everyone knows UND isn't capable of long-term planning. Just ask a bison fan.

Four hours is a long time for people to sit: three hours is the maximum attention span for most. Instead of coming at halftime of the women's game, they reprogrammed themselves to come an hour earlier. Glas should have been replaced years before: unfortunately the men's program was unduly harmed by continual underperformance and uninspired play. Thankfully, Jones seems to have the program on an upward trajectory again.

People in eastern North Dakota really underestimate the rivalry between western North Dakota and eastern Montana. Because of transportation links and migration patterns, much of Montana's population has North Dakota roots, especially in Eastern Montana. (Hence, the North Dakota jokes being so predominant in Montana). The Highline stretch of northern Montana was historically (and still is) oriented to Minneapolis (and North Dakota) more so than Seattle. Billings and Bismarck effectively are service center rivals for a huge swathe of territory between them. On a smaller scale, Dickinson vs Miles City and Glendive, and Williston vs Sidney, Glendive, Glasgow, and even Havre are rivals. A North Dakota vs Montana college rivalry would stir up some passion in those areas. The only cities between North and South Dakota that are really historical commerical rivals are Jamestown and Aberdeen. Those cities would have to get behind a North / South rivalry, because no other city in either state would care. Having lived in Idaho, the only area of Idaho that really sees Montana as a interesting rival for a HS game is the Idaho panhandle. Eastern Idaho cares about Utah, Southwest Idaho about Oregon.

You've been posting here since December 2006, yet your memory of this board goes well beyond that. Furthermore, everyone on this board knows JBB's postings are double-talk and idiocy. Only JBB himself would take offense at calling his posts idiotic. Your 'Matt' postings follow in that same vane, only with more cloaking this time. So are you the fourth, or is it fifth incarnation of JBB?

It gets very tiring to read idiotic JBB-esque and Iowabison type postings, especially when they masquerade as Sioux backers, here in this forum. UND administrators were well aware of what the position of Iowa and Wisconsin were - the NCAA stated their positions in their infamous decrees of August 2005: NCAA Executive Committee Issues Guidelines for Use of Native American Mascots at Championship Events - August 5, 2005

Matt: Since you began posting in early December, why do your posts always seem to be like fingernails screeching across a blackboard? Everyone knew about Iowa's and Wisconsin's policies, the only question was were they going to selectively enforce those policies. Minnesota's policy wasn't codified until recently.

Already confirmed by The Walrus: Van Zee commits to UND

Every TRex post has been a bison dropping.

Gliberalism UND has taken a true liberal position, by attempting to protect freedoms, in court. Although the nickname pales relative to other issues, Dartmouth, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Iowa have all fallen victim to gutless academic leadership intimitated by gliberalism.