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Can't remember when I've seen a power play that can't even get the puck in the zone. This is high level college hockey, for crap's sake.

The athletic director at Shanley? - at the very least he didn't come close to following procedure with parent complaints (which led to a good coach getting fired) and folded like a cheap lawn chair. That's the best you can say about him in this farce. A fair man would have at least insisted on following policy concerning whiney parents.

Doesn't matter if they figure it out - the "star" players pretty much ignore the coach and play their 1 on 4 game. It's like - hey I got my 20, where were the rest of you guys? - The coaches don't have the influence/guts/personality/team control/awareness (pick one or more) to change this. It's been this way for years, for pete's sake.

Would love to know who is responsible - If you cause someone to lose their job by going over their head and complaining then in my opinion you have made yourself a public figure.

Why am I not surprised

Although this might not be the place for it, I would love to know the name of the parent behind this crap. Parents think they can anonomously ruin the careers of coaches. They should have to stand up for their actions. I would never do business with someone like this.

He got a talented group with this years seniors, but has shown zero ability to either add to them or coach them up. The Muss of the basketball program.

Welcome - hope you can make it to most of his games - See you at tailgating

Why celebrate her mistake and misfortune on a sports talk site? The girl to my knowledge doesn't even post here. Not appropriate.

Something that should have been done 4 years ago.

I must admit that I was not a fan of our "outsiders need not apply" hiring process. Having said that, it looks so far like Bubba is exactly what this program needs. He has fired up the fan base in short order with his work ethic and entheusiasm. He has recruited his butt off. The attitude he brings to the program is amazing. For the first time in a long time I can't wait for the season to start. Nice job Bubba.

The lack of informatiion from XCEL is frustrating - there is more information here than on their web site

Sorry - after I re-read this it sounded more like an attack than I had intended. I'm just frustrated that it took us so long to get off the Muss bandwagon. Not blaming you.

This is the same type of pie-in-the-sky overly optimistic assessments we heard from "those in the know" during fall practice before this season. (better than either Gopher quarterbacks - hell, he wasn't even better that all of the Sioux quarterbacks) - Add in an assessment about how our lines had worked hard in the off season and were bigger, stronger, faster, and more cohesive, a reference to the best receiving corps in the nation, and a mention about how good our young players were and you would have the complete package. I have to admit I was surprised to see your name on this post instead of Geaux_Sioux's.

It's the total lack of disciplined play not the transition years that irritate the faithful. Agree Brekke is a big loss, but watching these guys play is almost painful. He has a bunch of talent he can't handle. I don't see Huff riding the pine much and he is the most selfish player on the team.

Everyone that sees this team play can see the problem. It could be corrected if the players did two things that are taught in elementary school - pass the ball when you have 3 defenders on you and box out. The fact that we have DI seniors that he can't get to do these two things speaks extremely poorly of Jones as a coach. The most talented guy on the team is the worst offender. I disagree that Jones is doing much to turn this around - he's had 4 years with the exact same type of play. A well organized playground team shows more teamwork. He seems to let his "talent" do whatever they want. No way to run a basketball program.

That would involve passing to someone who is open - We would need a change of culture for that to happen

I get that - I guess what I'm asking is why with all of their talent do they do these things and why can't we have crisp passes and bang bang plays like other teams that I think aren't as good as us?

OK - serious question - and one I got hammered for yesterday - why with all of our talent do we have such a brutal power play?

Well, if you think this team is playing to potential and will bring number 8 then excuse me

I think it is accurate and on point. We need play for 60 minutes and not stand around, have our goalie concentrate all game, and have a much better power play to go anywhere this season. We looked good for some of the game, but the tendency of this team to take time off as a group drives me nuts. Also - is it asking too much for a team that has what - 16 draft choices - to run an adaquate power play with some time in the zone with the puck, some shots on goal, and some puck movement?

Do you?

It's hard to complain after a win, but here it is - I don't care which goalie has a bigger upside or who has more talent - I would sit Gothberg until he can concentrate for 60 minutes. This is getting old Is there any team in the country that has a worse looking power play than us? For heavens sake, the Green Wave can pass it around and get a bang bang play every once in a while. With all of the draft choices we have there is no excuse for looking like that out on the ice. Would it be asking too much to play 60 minutes of hockey? We stood around for the start of the third and it cost us. Remember, our goal is to win a natty, not eek out a victory against the worst team in the league. This lack of effort is getting old.

The 10 yard cushion year after year irritated me more than anything else from the Muss era. It looked like we started the game in a prevent. I know that our corners weren't strong, but we could have least tried to play like the big boys.

It's not hockey being a resource drain - It's the attitude that we have a program that wins national championships (or at least used to) and that football can coast a bit - at least compared to the demands on NDSU football - how long would have Muss lasted at NDSU - they insist on winners and are willing to look outside the box. We insist that everyone is in the fold and that criticism is anti-Sioux - we don't demand excellence and are willing to tolerate mediocrity longer than the Bison are.