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Could not agree more -

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Hello - any mods here at all - pathetic to let this tool take over our thread.

The idea that Hak is underachieveing at the Frozen 4 (1-6) because Gino and Blais were so good there is complete and utter blather, but emotionally it makes us feel better about our recent failures. You'd be better off going with the "it's so much harder now" argument although I think that is nonsense too. It's thunderdome - 4 teams enter, one team leaves. We just haven't been the one that leaves - certainly not because of Gino or Deano - we just flat out haven't gotten it done. The only year that I feel we were in there with shakey talent was last year. Other than that, we just plain didn't do it.

You must have slept during stats class - Are you familiar with the Gamblers Fallacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy)? Many a fortune has been lost on the Roulette wheel because of it. If red comes up 10 times in a row, what are the odds of the next spin being black? - 50/50. We didn't lose the Frozen 4 because the odds say we were due to. Each time is independent of any other time. If you assume that each team has a 50/50 chance of winning each game in the frozen 4 then Hak has entered the contest 6 times and instead of winning games at a 50% pace he is winning at a 16% pace (1-6). His turns are independent of Gino's or Blais's. Things don't even out towards the expected average until you have a very large sample (the law of large numbers) - this requires many more trials than 20 or so (think thousands). TLDR - your "statistical" reason we aren't winning National Championships are nonsense. You clearly don't understand the "law of averages", the gamblers fallacy, or the law of large numbers.

I've been going to games since the old Barn and suffered through the Bjorkman years. Friday's game is a little fresher in my memory, but I can't remember a Sioux hockey team that stood around more and gave less of an effort than Friday. Part of my heartburn is the belief I have (had) that maybe, just maybe, this would be the year we don't have to sit through crappy play through Christmas and play up to our abilities in the first half of the year.

Wouldn't be the first coaching staff to have a stubborn blind spot.

I agree about Bartles leaving and don't blame him , but for our program it is a darn shame. It worries me that we are going to pin our QB hopes on Molberg and hope he moves toward his potential (which he hasn't done in the 2 1/2 years he has been in this program). In my opinion Bartles is getting the crap end of the stick. We better have a darn good freshman who can take over.

If Bartles doesn't get the next start the coaching staff is basically telling him "hey kid stick around here and ride the pine because you will never get a chance to start no matter what you do". Wouldn't blame Bartles if he told the coaches to pound sand right now and transfered.

The problem with this thread is that it is bianary - either you are a "moron" who wants to fire a coach with one of the best winning percentages in the country or you are a weak Sioux fan who doesn't care about National Championships. Many fans are in between these positions. They don't think Hak should be fired but are extremely frustrated with the lack of a championship and a 1-6 record in the frozen 4, correctly pointing out that even though Hak has won a lot, the standard at UND in the past 35 years has been championships. We used to make fun of teams (Gophers) who couldn't get it done like we did. Now, not so much. I for one am getting pretty restless. Time to win one, and what we saw Friday put into context seemed to indicate that even in a year where we are returning 20 lettermen and hopes are high we couldn't even get up for the home opener. I know it is a long season, but the poor starts and flameouts in the frozen 4 seem to be linked somehow into a pattern of frustration that we hoped we could break this year. I truely hope that Hak wins this year and gets the monkey off his back. He does a lot of things I like as a coach, but when we can't seem to win it all regardless of the year or talent it is easy for us armchair coaches to look at his "systems" and wish they were more like the coach before him. While "fire Hak" probably is a very poor title for a thread, there probably needs to be a place where us "morons" can vent a little while still being considered good Sioux fans. Many of us don't want Hak fired, we just want him to get it done.

Couldn't agree more.

Win a title

I'm not guaranteeing squat - just pointing out that we certainly have had the talent to get it done and that in my opinion Hak's "systems" have not helped.

So nice to leave the game today and talk to fans who felt their cheering had a hand in the outcome. I'll take going to this game over almost all of the Muss games combined. We weren't perfect, but we cowboyed up and got a W. If Bartles hasn't earned a start I'll be super pissed.

Perfect summary - Hak is so stubborn about his "systems" - Imagine what York could do with Toews, Oshie, and Duncan on a line. Hak does many parts of his coaching job very well, but I really believe that this is why we never get it done.

Still more entertaining than the game though.

Absolutely no excuse for this effort - especially for a home opener. None.

Wow - Boston College Bemidji State is using and abusing the "best defense in the country".

I really hope that the University rethinks its attitude about students and their attendence at sporting events. Students are vital to a loud and exciting game atmosphere in every sport and not only should be made to feel welcome, but also encouraged by making attendence as easy as possible whether it is with tailgating or easy ticket sales. The more of a pain it is the more students will stay away. At some level (not sure where this starts) it seems like all students are viewed as potential problems who need to be watched as carefully as possible. Some lower level officials do their duties with the zeal of Junior High dance monitors and spend every second looking for "rules" violations. Give the kids a little space and make them feel welcome. If they are causing a problem or blatently doing something wrong then take care of that situation. We need to make them part of the Sioux family. I think the attitude towards students turned about the same time as athletics went "corporate" and hockey became a big social event. Fervent fans including students were not as valuable a commodity as people with big bucks to spend on suites and the good seats. How dare the students want to stand and cheer on their team. Those of us who remember the Old Ralph know what an excited student section can mean to a game. Please spend a little time thinking about how to involve students and rethink the attitude that seems designed to drive them away.

Friday - Parks Sat - N Schmaltz

From my vantage point it looked like he would have made it if he kept on at his original angle and hadn't cut back inside, but that is certainly not definitive. Not suggesting he dance like a scatback or that the loss was his fault, just pointing out the series of events that led to our disappointing defeat.

It's not only the kicking crew's deal - it a perfect storm of screw-ups to lose this one. Molberg runs for the sticks instead of dancing and cutting up results in probably a first down. We let a receiver get behind our d backs at the worst possible time - I'm still stunned at that lapse. Bottom line is we couldn't close the deal. Like most games we had some good and some bad - definately see improvement in overall intensity and defensive play. Let's not get too high on the 4th quarter offense (unless we change up play calling for the whole game) - We seemed to forget the stretch where we had about 10 yards total in 4 posessions and seemed to start every drive off with a one yard plunge. It will be interesting to see what offense we see for the next game.

I'm not saying to let the students run wild, but the Barney Fife level of student monitoring that goes on at the Alerus is riciculous. Just look over at the student section and you will see 3-5 officials standing at the top of the section ever scanning the students. If they are causing trouble, remove them. Othewise just leave them alone. It seems like the Al is doing everything it can to make them miserable. I have heard many students I know complain about this.

Have you seen the cops roam and scan the student section for anyone having a good time. We never got that treatment. It's like we are trying to keep them away. The Alerus is the worst - I sit close to the student section and see students hassled all of the time. The Ralph is a little better, but not great. If a student is obviously intoxicated or out of line, by all means get them out. But give the kids a little slack.

Couldn't agree more - one of his first passes he looked left, stared down the receiver, and threw into double coverage - probably should have been picked. I think we've seen the type of play calling that helps him be successful and it isn't second and 9, third and 7. On the other hand, he threw some great passes - the physical talent is there.