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I would like to hear some discussion on this - in my opinion this is one of the areas that falls on the coaches - I'm not saying we never score, but our power play has looked miserable for years. Some games it seems we never even get things set up. Why do lesser talented teams have much better power plays. It makes no sense to me.

So - what you're saying is that he is going to learn some court discipline from our program? Good One.

That has been Art's point all along

We really need a win

After watching a special tonight on WDAZ fawn over the question "what do you like better, Bison football or Bison basketball" I threw up in my mouth a little. I blame Faison, Kelly, and the ducky and bunny patrol for this state of affairs. Do we have the will be be successful? I'm not very sure.

Couldn't agree more - starts at the top with Kelly - really kicks into gear with a series of poor AD's leading down to Faison (Bunning for example) - which leads to poor hiring decisions on a shoestring budget and the icing on the cake here is the duckys and bunnys crowd who are very happy eating crap from NDSU and aspiring to be very average. I'm convinced nothing will happen to improve things until there is an uprising of fans, and I am doubtful that we have the collective will. I'm writing Faison and Kelly tonight (again). I don't care how many hockey committees Faison is on, he needs to tend to business here. This is the most frustrating stretch overall I have had in many years of being a Sioux fan.

And how long we were content to travel down it.

I'm convinced Sioux fans don't have the collective will to demand a winner - witness our 10 year Musshole in football. There is a reason why when you go to any town in North Dakota and bring up sports, UND isn't the topic of conversation. I am disgusted by our toleration of mediocrity.

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Couldn't agree more - we need a serious drive for excellence - we let football go down a 10 year Musshole and didn't learn a thing. No wonder we are losing the battle.

Not saying we never score, but with all the talent we have this year and in years past, why can't we ever have a power play that looks like those? Serious questions for the hockey minds here.

I hear what you are saying about stupid penalties, but I thought Parks' first one in the second period was worse. We had them on the run at 3-0 and let them back into the game with a pp goal and gave them momentum. Parks needs to play smarter than that. Speaking of penalties, I know we have more talent than St. Clown, so why can't we ever get a power play that looks like theirs?

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Came away from the game pretty frustrated, but a win is a win Random thoughts Horrible reffing again. It was a whole different game after Parks took his stupid penalty in the second. As has been said many times, he should know better - it allowed them to get back in the game with their PP goal - If he doesn't screw his head on he's going to really cost us with this type of play With all of the talent we have, don't we have anyone who can win face-offs? - I know it is a specialized skill, but we just got killed I am all in favor of the new type of puck moving defensemen, but since when did St. Cloud think they could goon it up with us (it kind of worked too) All in all we missed some open shots but still came away with a win.

Not cohesive offensively because the guys haven't played with each other a lot? - the same offense as last year after the guys played together for 4 freaking years. They play a playground offense when it counts.

Hak has many positives as a coach, but he is one stubborn SOB about his "systems"

Any evidence our esteemed Athletic Director has done anything on our behalf? I have no faith in the man standing up for Sioux Sports.

I've said this before, but I think it bears repeating on this thread - Complaints about Jone's coaching are, in my opinion, about 50% on his record and about 50% about style (how his teams look when they play). Remember, most of the Mens BB fans are older. He brought in a very talented group against the odds (last year's seniors). Jones supporters rightfully point to their high conference finish. However, others saw a talented group that did not improve in many areas for 4 years - teamwork, rebounding, defense, and toughness on the road. In addition, he showed little ability to add to this group. What could have been a team that people rallied around became a team fans were frustrated with. It's like towards the end of the game we called time out and during the break we called "playground" for the last two minutes - you know - "hey, if you get that 1 on 4 matchup, make sure you take it". I know that this is an oversimplification, but what should have been a fun 4 years became a frustrating time for many old time fans. Now we have some new young talent that shows signs of playing the same way. We are never going to win just on the talent we attract here. We need some semblance of rebounding and discipline. That is why I think many fans are tired of Jones.

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Alright, I'm gonna say it. There is one guy who needs to have the Sioux Hockey Program's back - I'm looking at you, Faison. The team and coaches shouldn't focus on poor reffing, many fans including me have emailed the league office, the media will not write anything that is so critical that they jeopardize relationships with anyone (they will hint about a controversy, but are not willing to say it like it is). We need someone in an official capacity to make the case. This is why we need an AD with a spine - if he has "talked about the subject in private" that's not good enough for me. This isn't a case of just having the close calls go against us - this is a case complete with out and out incompetence or malfesance (with video evidence to prove it). The series had league championship and playoff implications and there is no way we should let this slide. It is my strong feeling Faison won't do what is necessary, leaving the Sioux chat board to express our disgust. He has caved in to the NCHC powers that be before (the media contract and hiring Don Adams as head of officials - for those of you that have forgotten his WCHA days, he is the only reff that has openly stated his dislike of North Dakota. Time for someone to cowboy up and back this program.

Tell me again cberkas (from friday thread) how the NCHC has the finest refs in all of college.

This is a well reasoned argument that makes its point without resorting to calling anyone a moron. I respect this opinion, while I don't agree with all of it. I don't know Coach Jones personally, so I will take your word about his personality. I also agree with the point you made about coming in at a tough time in the transition. However, there remains for me something frustrating about this program. I admit to being an old fart who was around for the Gunther years (which may be idealized over time in my mind) but I think I came away feeling more satisfied after a Gunther loss than many of the Jones wins. The undisciplined "balling" of his teams drives me nuts as did the "give me the ball so I can play 1 on 4" offense we saw sometimes last year. That along with the lack of rebounding and boxing out makes for a frustrating experience. I know he has some young talent and more on the way next year, but for crap's sake, can't we play with a little basketball sense and at least box out? In my mind, another year like this one except with some more talent isn't the direction I hope we go in. Look around at the age of the basketball crowds - almost all old guys. When they get tired of this program and stop coming the program will be in real trouble.

Allow me to disagree - did you see the goal waved off tonight - no excuse

Nice win - dominant - with a couple of lapses One thing I was happy about when I heard we had a new conference is the chance for better reffing - holy crap was I wrong - Don't know what can be done, but if I'm AD I'm shaking the tree after the season (not just about the goal tonight, but about the body of work).