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Depends. I said it wasn’t apples to apples. I hadn’t thought of kumquats. Good one.

Any known commits for Feb 5 signing day? Prospects?

No, but entry level employees earn the employers money don’t they? Most aren’t as valuable as experienced employees but sometimes you get one who is smarter and outworks the others and interacts with your customers in a way that is noticeable early on. They are money in the bank. They may move up the pay scale quickly or be compensated with bonuses but many don’t earn what they are worth right away. I know it’s not exactly apples to apples but I think too many minimize the compensation these athletes already receive at the major programs. Same happens in others jobs, granted usually on a smaller $ scale.

#1 I believe you could have been reimbursed for your expenses. Athletes who are flown to Conference Media Days don’t have to pay their own expenses. Usually the Conference picks up tab for expenses but no honorarium. #2. You could have done the “dunk tank” as long as you didn’t take money or compensation. #3. I believe is a violation. Your points are well taken. We used to have to fill out a questionnaire listing all scholarship monies (regardless of where it came from) and any money we made from summer jobs or part-time jobs. The total of those funds was limited to not a lot more than the total of tuition/books/room/board/fees and estimated expenses. I believe the NCAA still requires that info. It’s complicated, but even academic scholarships for athletes are often counted against the schools total scholarship allotment. Many athletes used to work in the summer or part time during the school year for boosters. Before that was changed, that’s how the big time programs paid athletes. That is also why the NCAA changed the rules which hurt the players who are on partial scholarships and who need to work.

Manziel redshirted in 2011 but made the travel squad. He had 2 outstanding years in 2012 and 2013 including winning the Heisman and finishing runner up the next year. A full ride for an instate kid at Texas A&M is $28,000 per year. In addition he flew all over the country for 3 years. He had free hotel and free meals. Assume 6 away games per year. At the end of his RFr and Soph years he also had free trips and stays in NY. He also had trips with hotels and meals for bowl games. Clothing/shoes etc also add up. If another student does same travel/meals/stay a conservative guess would be $1000 per away game for flight/hotel/meals. I don’t know the exact number but you get the picture. In addition to a free education, he gets many other perks. He plays a game for $40,000 or more per year for 3 years. The redshirt year his isn’t yet very marketable. How much would his endorsements be worth? Could be millions but others who have entry level jobs don’t usually get to cash in on their abilities right away. Mandrill and others need the colleges and the resources of those schools including the free marketing provided by the SID’s to capitalize on their success to say nothing of the unheralded teammates who won’t get endorsements but are an important part of the success of the stars.

I agree. But somehow the QB’s develop under Hedberg.

Must be why Jenson isn’t in the NFL. Regardless, I doubt there are college QB coaches with a better resume.

QB coach for Brock Jensen, Carson Wentz, Easton Stick and Lance has done an impressive job. These guys have all developed into All-American level QB’s. It doesn’t just happen. 2of 4 are in the NFL and Lance will certainly have an opportunity. Hedberg has developed these guys at the FCS level which is probably tougher than doing the same at FCS.

I tried not to use big words just for you. Sorry.

On the other hand, the play calling minimizes turnovers and has resulted in an undefeated National Championship, Peyton and Rice Award winner for a freshman QB. Granted, they have an outstanding Oline which is important and are loaded across the board but I don’t think the accomplishments are as easy as some think. I don’t watch them so I’m not sure I could offer a valid opinion to disagree otherwise.

This is one person’s opinion and not supported by facts. Athletes relate to coaches for many reasons. For some age is a factor. But that goes both ways. For kids whose high school coaches/teachers have had a significant influence on them, the age of their future coaches can be a factor. The majority of athletes want a coach who they feel cares about them and will give them a fair chance to compete and play and help them develop as a player. The parents and families of the athletes want the same. For some the most important issue is the athletes opportunity to succeed. For some the opportunity to improve and develop as a player and also a young adult. The athletes feeling of “connecting” with the coaches and future teammates is a priority. The academic opportunities are essential for many especially those who aren’t convinced the NFL is in their future and those with an IQ above 90. The tradition of the program is a big factor, but also the facilities, and potential for success. Where an athletes girlfriend/boyfriend is, family ties to the school or program, big school, big city, etc are factors. Age of the coach as an independent factor isn’t that important and no one on our staff nor prospective coaches mentioned are too old. Their are many coaches, young and old, who fail because they can’t relate to their players and adjust to the different personalities. Their are also many coaches, young and old, who can adjust how they communicate and motivate their athletes over time just like they adjust their schemes and coaching philosophy over time and based on talent. Their are “cool old coaches as well as cool young coaches”. I respectfully disagree with your opinion. I also disagree that coaches in their 40’s or 50’s are old.

Hopefully the conversation was “thanks, but no thanks”.

Also building a resume and a relationship with a coach on the way up. If you want to be a coach at the highest level this is a great opportunity. If these guys turn Fresno into a Conference Champion with 10-12 win seasons and a bowl win they move up. Much more money.

Wasn’t there a Shaugaby from Warroad who played FB at UND?

Did I miss something or has no one mentioned Grant Slukynsky from Warroad? He had 4 goals and 4 assists against and not very good Detroit Lakes team. He has 20g 30a in 13 games. His shot from the “dot” reminded of me of Ryan Duncan. DL goalies are big and not bad. His shot is quick and deadly. He is always in the right place and plays both ends of ice well. Warroad guy behind me said Neither NDak nor Minn showed interest. Apparently committed to N Michigan. Not sure if he is signed. Warroad also has a 9th grader named Shaugaby who was impressive.

Increased risk of injury isn’t worth it.

Many former Bison players and Bison fans have contributed with donations and prayers. Big Sky fans and players have also contributed. Very heartwarming to see the outpouring of donations and prayers.

More sad news for our UND family. Lowell Schweigert passed away earlier today shoveling snow. He was a former UND QB, a great friend to so many and one of UND’s most loyal Alumni. Please remember Lowell, his brother, Coach Bubba and the entire Schweigert family, and our UND FB family in your prayers.

Yes. Did it in the 1970’s. Green tomahawk stickers. Red FB stickers for takeaways.

I do think he would have. Danny has the receivers.

Ok Sparky, I was just going to let it drop but if you are going to start that crap take it to a PM. I didn’t “lecture” anyone. The lack of class I referred to was you and you alone. No one else suggested Lowell needed to be gone. Lowell is an alumnus, a former player, a supporter of UND and UND athletics. He is a good guy whose brother happens to be our FB coach. He has also volunteered to serve in different capacities. I was a friend of Behrns during his time here. We played poker Thursday nights. I didn’t state anything about Pat that wasn’t a fact. He was charged with a crime. I have no idea if he committed a crime and I don’t know how it was resolved. I don’t know what “hpocritical” is so I assume you meant hypercritical. I didn’t criticize. If you were bent out of shape cuz I said your comment about Lowell showed a lack of class then attack me for that. If you are going to refer to me as “Ms” then we need to take it to a PM. No reason to ruin the post for others if you want to make it personal.

He had already improved from year one to year 2. So yes, I believe that he would have continued to develop.

I actually read it in multiple newspapers. It was public knowledge. What I didn’t hear was how it was resolved.

He went to Utah State as an Asst which I believe was beneficial. He was frustrated with his lack of success and recognized they weren’t doing a good job of evaluating prospects. He also regretted hiring many assistants from D3/NAIA programs. Last I heard he was charged with soliciting in a sting operation across the border from Omaha. I never heard how it was resolved. Not sure what happened to him.

Marv Helling, Jerry Olson, Gene Murphy, Pat Behrns, Roger Thomas, Dale Lennon, Chris Mussman, Bubba Schweigert. Every head coach had been a UND assistant at one time. It has actually been over 50 years. Only Pat Berhns failed to win at least a conference championship. Olson, Murphy, Thomas and Bubba turned program around when struggling. To be fair to Mussman he was the sacrificial lamb during transition with little direction or help from administration. The Berhns years were the most disappointing in the 50 yrs. He was a good recruiter but many of his assistants came from lower level programs. We often were successful recruiting the players we went after but too often recruited players who were not able to excel at this level. On the other hand they also recruited some of our best ever. (Tracy Martin, Willis Jacox, Norm Magee, etc). It took Roger a number of years to rebuild the program which was in great shape when Dale took over. The jury is still out on Bubba with a Big Sky Championship and 2 playoff appearances but, overall the “family” approach has worked. It shouldn’t be the deciding factor by any means but has worked for the most part.