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So tell me, how fast is good enough?

My comments aren’t defending the coaches. It is a comment on the regurgitation of the same stuff week after week by the same posters. I have commented that I believe it derails many discussions. I have felt because there will be no change during the middle of a season it serves no purpose to insert the same complaints about coaches into virtually every discussion. I have believed that before we make wholesale change we better have a viable solution in place that we have full confidence will not set the program back but will likely be an improvement. Most of the fire the coach comments don’t show much more than a shallow understanding (if that much) as to the total picture and the complexities of building or tearing down a program. I am of the opinion that I support my staff up until the day I let them go. Each year staff is evaluated and among other things, they are asked what else they need to be successful. Then as an employer or a supervisor, before I consider change I self evaluate as to whether or not I have provided all of the resources that we mutually agreed were necessary for success. I am not sure that means I’m narrow minded or not. You may think so but I don’t believe I see a depth of understanding in the majority of fire people posts. Some want faster receivers. I posed the question: how fast is fast enough?. 4.6 fast enough? We know 40 times but I would rather know how quick we get off the LOS, how quick we can accelerate to full speed, how quick can we play FB within 20yds on both sides of the LOS. Arguably the fastest WR in our history struggled to catch the FB. We need bigger guys. Our listed sizes are similar to listed sizes for NDSU and SDSU. This is a pretty darn good group of asst coaches and from what recruits and parents have told me they do a good job. Show me an upgrade and I’m all for it, but let’s do that when the season is over. If that’s narrow minded then I’m guilty. Otherwise these guys have slowly improved the program so they have my public support until I see a change that will do better. Just my opinion which is no more valid than most anyone else’s.

More importantly, is how big and fast is Weber?

Except for Wegge or however he spells it. He’s 6’5” 285 lbs. Other guy I think is 240 range.

SDSU Defensive participation against us: DL: 6’3” 250lbs , 6’4”245lbs, 6’4” 280lbs and 6’1” 270lbs LB: 5’9” 200lbs, 6’1” 200lbs, 6’215lbs Our players are big enough I did similar comparison earlier with NDSU size on OL and DL “It ain’t this size of the dog in the fight it’s the size of the fight in the dog”. We can’t seem to stay focused on the topic The fact is if you look at film you can’t tell why we made good plays or why we failed So much of what is pontificated is nonsense. Some of you have no answer except fire all of the coaches Everything is their fault. It isn’t. It’s their responsibility Some think we aren’t big enough but comparing ht and wt from team rosters doesn’t bear that out. This thread should be focused on the next game and Weber State. If we play up to our full capabilities we can win this We can’t miss assignments, we can’t miss tackles, we can’t have stupid penalties, we have to cover punts and KO’s and all 11 guys need to do their job every play all day long If we do that we can win It doesn’t matter what the program says about ht and wt The program doesn’t list heart and desire. Go Hawks

Why? We don’t know what he did or didn’t do. They normally don’t help us but we don’t know.

Hell, a lot of folks were angry with our AD when we didn’t get outbid. They made the wrong assumptions. We have no idea what Larson did or didn’t do. NDSU certainly deserves a 4 seed. Their record speaks for itself and they are defending Champs. He may have lobbied hard for both UND and Youngstown who knows. If you are 7-4 and don’t get in then you needed to play better during the season. If we would have been left out we could look to our collapse against SDSU and Nebraska or loss to SIU. We are in. The rest is noise that is no longer relevant.

Normally. If they know that is our strategy, they might force the issue. You are probably correct.

Good comments. The only thing I would like to see is that the school accepting the player reimburse the school that the player leaves the amount of the scholarship the kid had. Kids without scholarships or smaller scholarships wouldn’t be penalized. It recognizes the investment in these athletes by their first school even though the cost to first school is more than just the scholarship. It also decreases the chance a kid transfers somewhere else where he or she won’t likely play. Grad transfers would be an exception.

That would be better than out of bounds. Still need to cover and make tackles.

George you experienced an unfortunate but not uncommon response from folks who take ownership of their fan sites, and make assumptions and post remarks. (Multiple posters lambasted our AD because they assumed he didn’t put in the appropriate bid to host a playoff game). Many are like fans everywhere whose lives are tied to successes and failures of their sports teams. It’s a fascinating study of our present day sports culture to see the initial opinions and responses to your post. We laid an egg last week but are capable of winning this game. It’s playoff time and this team reached one of its goals set at the beginning of the season. Doesn’t matter where we play or who we play. If we are going to win a championship we have to beat the best teams in the country. This should be a fun game in a great setting. Thanks for you positive post. Go Hawks!

Because they can choose to make you kick it over 5 yds back. We need to cover KO and can’t afford to miss tackles if we can’t get KO into end zone.

I wonder why now instead of after playoffs other than “ been there, done that”.

Which ones?

Food for thought: Bison Starting DLine: Oline: 6’5” 282 lbs 6’6” 303lbs 6’2” 260lbs 6’4” 329lbs 6’1” 279lbs 6’4” 286lbs 6’1” 242lbs. 6’4” 304lbs 6’6” 290lbs 6’3” 245lbs UND DLine: Oline: 6’3” 240lbs 6’4” 300lbs 6’2” 290lbs 6’2” 305lbs 6’2” 255lbs 6’3” 290lbs or 6’1” 285 6’3” 290lbs 6’5” 305lbs 6’5” 250lbs 6’6” 310lbs - 6’4” 285 6’3” 290lbs 6’4” 235lbs- 6’3” 250 6’4” 250lbs. I’m not sure size is the issue.

I can’t say for sure but I don’t believe it’s always highest bid but it could be. Someone else probably knows for sure.

They also are ranked ahead of us. With students home for Thanksgiving and the fact we haven’t sold out a home game all year, they may award bid to Weber even if we outbid them if bids are close. I doubt we would have been able to get 9000.

Makes sense. I would say a good rule of thumb is when you struggle, simplify things and focus on fundamentals. I had the opportunity to sit down with Wade after games when he was with the Cowboys. Very intelligent defensive mind and a great guy.

Maybe. I believe we also have had TE’s that could be DE or OLBs based on their athletic ability.

That NDSU team is pretty damn good when they play up to their full potential. Miller is a very good QB. He does what they ask him to do. He is a very good running QB and decent passer. Miller made himself look good more than we made him look good. Schuster didn’t have a good game but Bison secondary is very good and their defense was pressing him even when they didn’t get to him. I don’t know why we played so poorly defensively early on but we have struggled to play consistently on defense all year. We were ok offensively and had the defense been more than a speed bump, we would have been ok.

I coached BB at GFC one year under Dick Vinger and Pat Sullivan. Hall of Fame coach Dick Vinger said “ when you win say little, when you lose, say less”.

I would play Koshiol. He tackles well. I think he is less likely to be out of position or miss an assignment. Speed may be the factor but I’d rather have a guy who is assignment sharp and can tackle. Especially against a run team. Just a guess. I’m not at practice so who knows. Gotta do something.

I agree but I don’t think it would have changed the outcome unless NDSU started making mistakes. Offensively, they were clicking on all cylinders. Defensively, we didn’t have an engine started to click cylinders. That and missed scoop and run on blocked FG changes momentum but then they dropped an interception early so it goes both ways. Not sure if we get in but we need another win to better define this season. I think our guys played hard but we were overmatched. We would need to play our best game of the year to stay with them and then those breaks can be the difference.

Good question. When we can’t stop other team, I’m not sure I would punt from own 45 or beyond but at some point it doesn’t matter. I thought this would be decent game. I don’t think we were as diverse with play calling as we had been most of year especially early. Our KO and punt coverage was bad. Guys didn’t stay in lanes. Their RB’s were very patient and then hit seam quickly. Not sure where our “second level” defenders were on those long runs. Other than the early sack that Tommy kind of ran into our young RT did ok against a future pro. Tommy did ok even with pressure. I thought his fumble was knocked out of his hand by Hoosman when he was starting to throw and Hoosman moved across to block but I’m not sure. KO’s weren’t getting to end zone but we need to cover kicks. When officials ate the flag on the personal foul against Maag on the early drive we had been moving ball. Missed int and blocked FG both potential TD’s but frankly they outplayed us and we got dominated by their oline. Lastly, Miller had a great game. Whoever said he is “slow” may want to watch the game film. Bad day. They played well and we couldn’t stop them. Hopefully we get a playoff game and can get past this.

Classless, moronic remark.