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I was wondering if anyone knows what has happened to previous coaches at UND in football who were not retained what are they doing or where they have moved on to?.

Yes, they are playing more as team now and I do think that Sutter has done a lot to improve their play. I have noticed even at timeouts he and other coaches are more in discussion with players giving information to the players. I think Mallory more into player rotation and working the referees recently during the game and has delegated some technical parts to her assistant. I will give her credit for this we are seeing improvement on our fundamentals and maybe we can crawl up in Summit standings and have chance to win few games in conference tournament. Still long way to go to reach that goal and see if we can continue improve.

Larkins is having hard time getting good shot with us having Horn and Mathern both players having length and enough quickness to defend. See how yotes respond.

The next three games will determine where we stand in Summit. The first game is against South Dakota and is at home and in my estimation probably a game we should win and is team similar to us in rebuilding mode. Second game is against South Dakota state at Brookings a game we have small percentage winning and would be real upset if it happens. Third is NDSU at Fargo and game Mallory would like to win with hard feelings from past several years but Jory Collin’s has owned Mallory in his 5 previous season winning 9 out of 10 games. Likely hood is NDSU win again playing at home and in the past having out coached Mallory on making adjustments to Malory’s. Both teams are both young but SU has more length and does have couple senior leaders. If we win one game we would be position to compete for fourth in the conference. If we loose 3 probably would be looking for the 5 or 6 place in the conference. If we would win more than one game in next three we could be position to compete for up to third place. The loss to ORU other night makes it difficult to reach any higher in the conference by giving up game at home. These next three games will show how far we have come and if we capable of reaching higher level of play. I have doubts yet but also have seen some improvement of playing better basketball but now when level competition improves do move forward or revert back to what we have been last few years. Let’s hope we are moving forward.

Lucky we’re hitting our free throws but I don’t see how they loose to NDSU by only 10 and then NDSU turns around beats ORU by 10. If Denver starts to hit hitting few shots they still could comeback in the fourth.

This looks like Hutters defense he had Mayville and similar to their offense of players spread looking for three and trying to go inside with a post or drive by forwards. Still to many turner overs but least most of them haven’t been in layup the other way. The last quarter and overtime’s we reverted to Mallories offense. If it’s true Mallory let me coach I all I have to say when we’re playing Hutters basketball we become pretty good team. Pemberton is scorer but good coach would have worked on getting her To look for assists up. Mallory likes star player roll you see it her player choices like Hurst in past and Owen this year players are aggressive in looking for their shot. Mallory doesn’t have lot of patience to run offense she wants to run and gun. If that doesn’t work we end up putting poor shot or turnover trying to drive force a shot. Mallory should delegate and learn something new because her future will depend on successful UND can learn what Hutters has brought to the program.

This was much better game in long time.KC couldn’t matchup with Schiller and will be somebody to build around. The match up zone on defense seems to be working and we’re not getting beat on mismatches and screens and rolls. This looks to be the defense Mayville state was running under Hutter. The test comes next week with ORU at home and Denver a team they should beat. Still not convinced anything has changed yet.

UND, players and fans deserve better than this how bad does it have to get before a change is made. She has had at least three different sets of assistant coaches in five years but bottom line is they all have had same problems of to many turnovers and lack of consistent offense to build on. Second she talks of playing good defense but our teams struggle learning to play defense. Finally these teams become more of five individuals instead of team working together. This team was playing team ball better earlier it showed in number of assists they had now look the numbers keep dropping. I would let Hutter finish season when he was at Mayville his teams played as teams he had over 10 years of high level of success. How staying the course is going to be better for the program I do not understand we’re not going to get better and how can we get much worse. I think now we are going to finish dead last in the conference.

I think it is both they were over evaluated as talent and second they have not progressed since they were freshmen. I don’t know work ethic but I have to believe it’s there. Beal has the most raw talent she quick, has length, and runs and jumps very well. She has been three years her shooting if anything has gotten worse and I got to believe this gets back fundamentals. Hurst came here and showed early she could be force inside offensively but she also could shoot a three and now that is all she does. Second her evaluation my major concern would have been if she be quick enough to play especially defense. I know she has been hurt by injuries but here again where is our strength and conditioning for our athletes. I think we have been behind number of schools on this in all sports. I think whole athletic program has fallen behind other universities in how recruiting is done, strength and conditioning, and changing to keep up with what new athletics. This goes to administration need improvement evaluation to see how we’re doing each year in our sports compared to other universities.

When will UND and Schmidt announce new coaches do we have timeline or is when positions openings are closed.

FCS is in process of major flux with the last two major conferences of FCS the Valley and Big Sky under transition now being targeted by FBS for mining coaches out of top programs and targeting top talent for portal. Because of our geographics and population the top schools were not targeted to move up to FBS instead they are just coming in with money to allure away coaching talent and elite players to go into the portal. Majority of FCS had fallen back because of money issues for funding sports but these conferences had been able to maintain there quality of teams. The Bobcats coach and even Bison coach were said to be in contention for some these openings in FBS. These coaches being involved in National championship games probably reason for them still being in place. i believe FCS is probably not going to see number of high level talent we have seen in last 10 to 15 years. I think NCAA getting IVY league teams now being part of FCS playoffs have secured reason for maintaining FCS. UND has been given a break now to become relevant in the conference and becoming a factor in recruiting in the region. I just see that maintaining program year after year is probably not in cards when ever you have success it’s going to be poached and you have to start all over not way football was for prior 50 years.

I don’t think we can look at anybody a cupcake in our Summit schedule most of teams have some good division I wins. Look at our schedule we need to play at high effort performance to get win. This team we have is not deep and we are in need of another 4 or 5 player and we don’t have point guard that can score on the drive. If I would we’re bet on finish for this team we are probably 5 in conference.

I don’t think SU is going to get new stadium they haven’t even been able to get Dome updated when they have voted for tax increase to remodel the Dome. I know Fargo die hard fans and media want to move up to FBS but rest of country is not much interested because of geography and not enough tv market or population base to create opening for the Bison. I look at FBS since they went to playoff system there are way to many teams at that level I don’t see expansion of FBS but number of conferences being dropped for the playoff system leaving them to come back to FCS. The thing for UND is we need to catchup to the top 5 or 6 teams in FCS with our football program and it’s going to take work and money to get there now.

I am not usually in favor of mid seasons changes either but like some said he was hired for possible head coach if things didn’t work with Mallory. This is my reason for change things are heading south fast lately. I am hoping for 5 more wins with no changes and if we continue step backwards we may only see couple wins first game exit tournament. Second I don’t want to watch when we’re getting beat by 30 or 40 points by NDSU , SDSU, and Oral Roberts on home floor but I will probably watch just because I’m keep hoping we will turn things around and these players deserve better than their getting in coaching. I think UND needs put more effort in women’s sports we have gone from coaches that turned over programs transition from DIi to DI that competed to where they went to NCAA tournaments to now we can’t even get in top 1/3 of the conference. This should not be acceptable and needs to be fixed. This is much worse than football everyone one was complaining about football but womens basketball has had much more success in past and if done right we could become again factor in women’s basketball SDSU is proving it right now.

I couldn’t say it better but I don’t think it’s coaching staff but the head coach she is only one component from year to year with the team. Chaves needs to turn his attention here this program is in far worse shape than football or even soccer team were at before changes were made. I think they need to come up with position move for Mallory now and see what assistant coach could do with the program in last half of the season.

The coaching pool money will need to expand if we’re going to be equal to school south of us because there coaching staff is at least 3 to 4 more coaches, and at least 7 to 8 more support staff for recruiting, strength and conditioning, and other for football operations. So if we are going to catch up it’s going to take bigger pool of money or commitment to staff numbers. The years of cutting athletics has shown up all through the athletic department for all the sports we’re competing in. If we’re going to be flagship university in North Dakota then UND is going to need to spend money for athletics because loss leader for attracting students to the school and will help fuel future growth for the school and for the state.

Today I couldn’t watch the whole game after watching 2 1/2 quarters of where we had series of four or five possession's with resulting in turnover and there announcers talking about it and Mallory not even calling timeout I finally shut the game off. I know what Mallory’s game plan of pushing the tempo not letting Wyoming control tempo work ball into there post player and control possessions. I had watched South Dakota get beat badly earlier by Wyoming badly playing to Wyoming game plan. The reason South Dakota got destroyed they didn’t shoot even 20% from field and they couldn’t match up and rebound with Wyoming. I believe if we played Wyoming game we had chance to have won todays game. Mallory just won’t play control game she wants up tempo game but with experience we have it’s not going to work because we can’t have near 30 turnovers a game. Second when we’re trying push like we did today our players were tired and making poor decisions. Second I don’t understand, we should now have gotten down to seven or players who are going to be players for conference season but I am afraid she hasn’t come to that rotation. With her still playing at least 12 players there’s no jelling with starters or subs with starters because we may only have one to two starters on the floor at time. It was good to play number of players early in preseason but by now we should know which players you believe are ones carry in conference season. I got to believe Mallory has her preferences and assistants are pushing some of younger players so we haven’t settled on rotation. This is going to be long season and our record probably will end up at 10-19 give or take 1 or 2 wins either way. Also we are not getting assists anymore but everyone playing for themselves to get playing time. Same as last year not team playing but group of individuals reflects back on the coach.

I hear there are a lot of openings for coaches with Northern Iowa, Drake, North Dakota, Idaho, Fresno and Sac State so there a lot of coaching shuffles as schools have coaches moving for better opportunities. I believe this all slows down process of getting coaches signed or committed to coming here. We may also be finding are pay levels might be problem getting people to come here. Plus there are openings for coaches at FBS is at much higher pay scales than at FCS level. We experienced this last year with offensive coordinators before you have someone signed other schools are coming in making better offer to where they are looking at those offers as well natur. Society.

Yes, there is talent on this team. Pemberton has talent and has even gotten better without coaching . Schiller can become very good point guard. Ibrahim is rough but with some work on fundamentals should have been redshirted last year but we needed some length. Piekny looks to be long and quick and has nice shot. Horne, Demers, and Volmer (if she gets healthy) can play minutes in various rolls. Couple of other freshmen to early to tell what there future. The players I have mentioned are quick enough to be effective at Division I and with proper coaching we would see the talent come through. The rest on team I don’t think should be playing division I basketball they have some skills to play at this level but not enough to succeed .This how I see it now with this team. The elite team in Summit is South Dakota State they could end up being top 25 team this year but will be hard to get to with rest of the Summit. North Dakota state and Oral Roberts will battle for number two in conference. St Thomas will round out top four. The rest of Summit will be question who has most home wins to come in fifth. Should be year of playing your players who have most talent and see if can develop beginnings of competitive team. We need to still find players with length and speed priority in next years recruiting class and again and again.

I have heard there were reasons for him being buried and it wasn’t going to change. This is to bad he has raw talent there are other things players need to do to also to get to playing role on the team.

I thought that Bernhard could turn the corner as coach and she has recruited better talent here in last two years but what I see is we get players here and if anything I see regression in their fundamental basketball as their careers move along. The program right now should be playing better basketball with the talent we have here now. Chaves needs to address this by end of the season and probably they need to move Mallory into another roll at UND. If Mallory is ever going to coach at this level she needs to be assistant with another coach learn how they develop players and teach fundamentals to their players. I have feeling she has couple of assistant coaches that could help her now but she is falling back into her style of coaching as she played basketball not trusting or wanting to change.

They are quicker than we are they great first step and their match up zone with tree quickness is taking away our size. Even Schiller is quick but Hughes is as quick and better first step. We are not hitting anything from outside and without that with there zone is taking away the inside game. Our quickness and poor shooting is what they are taking advantage of against us.

I agree that we should win by these margins but I think there are things they can do offset size. I wouldn’t be surprised we see zone defense to take away the middle or form of match up man to man. Second we need to shoot well from outside if we don’t do that the game will be not be blow out. Last year they were quicker than us and we didn’t play as team. They are smaller but they are quick as team. Still I don’t think the game will be close by end of the game and if it is we have played one poor game.

UND has two prevalent type of turn overs that are creating number of turn overs this year the one is we are getting turnovers from the guards either by traveling or making poor passes on the drive or bringing the ball up the court. This is result of either trying to go to fast or we are not as quick as our opponent. Second is guard dribbling the ball off their legs or feet again we’re trying to gain advantage over opponent. All these can be corrected either by mentally slowing down getting your body under control and if we’re not quick enough to beat them one on one then you need to beat them passing and screening working as team to get open. This cuts down on individual play and scoring something not easy to players at this level to do. The second area is our post players sliding pivot foot or changing pivot foots here I believe is harder to correct because of this after offensive rebound. The big difference here usually does not lead to points off the turnover in transition. But the turnovers by guards is area where we need to cut down this where we are getting transition where we are giving up points on turnovers. I don’t expect this team to get to low turnovers but if they could get turnovers under 15 and down to say 12 we would have chance to win games with our rebounding second chance points.

I believe if we retain what we have on the team for talent and we add three to five impact players on defense side and change from 3-4 defense to 4-2-5 defense gives us chance to becoming average to slightly above average defense. The offense will need two or three players that can make big difference plus I think we may have some sleepers that didn’t play much last year and with change in coaching could become better players. If I look at our schedule I think we should go 7-5 enough to make the playoffs and who knows where we could be at end of next year. If we get staff put together that can put better game plans together and more attention to players to be prepared against our competition. I think we went to battle last year with staff undermanned to compete against other Dakota schools and need in change in philosphy when we went on the road. I look at staff that had to do day day coaching their wasn’t people to game plan and also look at ourselves see what tendencies we were doing and possible schemes to counter this game to game. I think this why second half was such disaster we weren’t even aware how predictable we had become and this got worse when we had injuries limiting our options to be less predictable. Football has also gone the way baseball has used statistics to help give better options to be successful. I believe we are going to see where we catch up to other Dakota Schools.