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13 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said:
You are insane if you believe that. You don’t become elite by paying bottom to average salaries. If NDSU cut their coaches salaries in half they would still be able to ride the coat tails of their past success but there is no way they would retain their elite coaching. Entz and Roehl are no where near the caliber of coach that program had in the past and are still paid that much……
Those salaries are paid because NDSU is elite. You don’t think the national championships earned over the last decade have anything to do with the differences in wages? Put another way, do you think Bubba and his staff would be paid more if they had won 6 national championships during his 8 years?
Some of you have so many excuses, it’s frightening.
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55 minutes ago, shep said:
Yes...if a "terrible coach" can do that, well...ummm...he's not terrible.
It was sarcasm . Obviously Entz can coach.
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2 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said:
You are insane if you believe that. You don’t become elite by paying bottom to average salaries. If NDSU cut their coaches salaries in half they would still be able to ride the coat tails of their past success but there is no way they would retain their elite coaching. Entz and Roehl are no where near the caliber of coach that program had in the past and are still paid that much……
That terrible coach (Entz) is on the cusp of his 2nd national championship in 3 tries. Some of you have so many excuses.
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1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:
I agree, but some people on here talk like we should move down to D-2 and join the NSIC. They cannot win the argument if this realignment takes place.
Coach Thomas made a strategic mistake not going up to D1 when the Bison made the move. Have been playing catch up ever since. We will never know for sure, but I firmly believe if we move up at the same time, the FCS results over the last 10-12 years would be considerably different for both programs.
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1 hour ago, nodak651 said:
No, but if they cut the annual pay of their coaching staff by $700,000 and cut their recruiting budget in half do you think they would expect the same results?
Yes.
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2 hours ago, nodak651 said:
I mentioned earlier that, when evaluating Bubba as a head coach, that budget and other constraints should be considered when doing so. Bubba is doing pretty damn well given the budget that he is dealt with, and if he's replaced, I think it's near impossible that we fill out the staff with equal or better talent than we currently have with an equal budget. It's impressive that Bubba has done as well as he has when guys like Holinka and Freund are paid less than pretty much every position coach at NDSU.
If NDSU had just finished 5-6 the way UND did, would Entz still have a job? I doubt it. Collectively, our expectations stink as do our results.
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28 minutes ago, shep said:
It's a good article.
He notes the Bison's regular season conference games are tougher than the first rounds of the playoffs. He notes all the teams that have gone to FBS which includes Coastal Carolina which played in something called the Cure Bowl this year in front of 3000 fans.
Is that what moving up gets you?
College football likely about to undergo a major shift(transfer portal, NIL, conference realignment. etc) Not sure how it will all shake out, but likely 4 FBS super-conferences(ACC,B1G,SEC, P12). If FCS is destroyed in the process, UND needs to be ready to move with the Bison and Jacks.
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15 hours ago, Norhsidepride said:
Freund gives Tommy an RPO on a lot of plays. (3rd and short and 3rd and long probably not) His cadence or one word when its loud tells the Oline run or pass. If you re watch you will see that on the road when its loud our WRs run more routes on run plays than at home, because if they don't hear it, they have go with the pass option. South Dakota and MSU come to mind as examples.
I will look for that. The offense includes multiple shifts and usually motion on each play which also makes it much tougher to call traditional audibles.
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5 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said:
Hearing from a credible source that the reason that Otis didn't make the trip to Southern Illinois was that he skipped practice the entire week leading up to the game. Take into consideration that he also missed the Drake game for missing a team meeting. If this is all true, I don't know how he wasn't dismissed from the team that week. It is sounding more and more like Otis entering the transfer portal was a way for him to leave the team with some dignity because Bubba may have told him to do it because he was going to be dismissed from the team.
I don't think this a big secret anymore. It was an ongoing problem.
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30 minutes ago, iramurphy said:
There isn’t a college offense where there aren’t audibles. If you are a college QB and for whatever reason, you are afraid to audible out of the wrong call, then you are playing the wrong position.
I would agree, most larger and accomplished high school programs have an audible or two each week.
I watched each game bell to bell this fall minus the Missouri state 2nd half. I have also watched most of this falls games a second time and I have not seen a single offensive play, where the QB recognizes something in the defense and changes the play. If someone knows of a play where an audible happened, I’d love to rewatch the play.
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1 hour ago, iramurphy said:
That’s on the QB.
I don’t follow. If audibles are not In UND offense, not sure how that would be on qb’s.
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12 hours ago, SiouxFan100 said:
I just watched two replay games and I didn’t see any noticeable times that Tommy audibled.
I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I am wondering if I just am missing it or what
That’s my observation as well. I have rewatched several games, and I see no evidence of audibles being called at the line by Tommy.
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9 hours ago, shep said:
Merry Christmas passionate UND football fans.
Merry Christmas!
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5 hours ago, UND1983 said:
There won't be one. My prediction
Hey, we finally agree!
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14 minutes ago, UND1983 said:
USD is thrilled with the job Bob has done to "get them over the hump and win it all".
About as thrilled as Delaware is with Danny Rocco after plucking him from Richmond to get them to the promised land.
What is your basement acceptable threshold(contract extension) for Bubba in 2022? 4 wins? 5 wins? 6 wins? Playoffs?
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1 hour ago, homer said:
Who would have known that is all it takes to win a National Championship.
It’s the details which are the difference between UND’s 2021 5-6 and lining up in Frisco in 3 weeks . Our details stink.
At MSU all we had to do was take the play clock down to a couple of seconds before each snap after going up 28-17 and we win despite both of the 4th qtr fumbles.
It’s sad because Bubba was good enough to assemble the team and get us to the threshold, just couldn’t cross it.
Bubba is a great ambassador for UND but the chances are slim he gets it done next fall.
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28 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
Up to the National Title game NDSU has lost once (@SDSU) and its next two closest games were a six-point win at home (JMU) and a six-point win on the road (UND).
UND is that close.
All the little things, from false starts to clock management, from assignment sharp to play calling, need to get cleaned up to get over the hump.
Yep. Started the year ranked 8th. With the above mentioned short-comings cleaned up, we would all be figuring out our flights to Frisco.
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10 hours ago, iramurphy said:
Not only are they allowed, they are supposed to audible when indicated.
I don't remember Tommy calling an audible all season. If you remember a specific instance, let me know and i will re watch.
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2 hours ago, UND1983 said:
Which game did they manage the clock incorrectly? And I mean 100%, unquestioned wrongly.
Missouri state for starters. Did you forget about the end of the half vs WIU?
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8 hours ago, zonadub said:
I think you are missing his point…
Many voices on SS are saying that losing the continuity of Bubba would cost UND several years of rebuilding (again). That a new coach will set the football program back at least a few more years. MW Hawk is pointing out the fact that first year coaches, the right first year coaches, can and do make a difference their first year. Utah State did pretty well with their new Coach Anderson this year too and Missouri State has gone from the lower half of the MVFC to the playoffs in both of Petrino’s first 2 years. (and before you say it, I realize both used the transfer portal liberally)
Yes, MSU was in better shape than UND was at the end of the Mussman era (and UND is also in a better place than when Bubba took over), but Vigen is taking the Bobcats to their first Championship game since 1984 and their first conference championship since 2012 in his first year as a head coach. Vigen did not have to rebuild the whole team, but he apparently is very successful in fine-tuning it.
I think what MW Hawk is saying is that UND, with the right fine tuning (leadership), can take that next step to becoming the championship caliber team we are all confident they can be and it doesn’t have to take several years.
My apologies, I don’t mean to put words in MW Hawk’s mouth, but that is how I understand his post.
This is spot on. Football isn’t rocket science, and coaching is supreme. Football at every level is full of examples of this.
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6 hours ago, nodak651 said:
I'm sure this getting wrapped up made zero difference right? https://www.kpax.com/sports/big-sky-conference/montana-state-bobcats/photos-montana-state-unveils-18-million-bobcat-athletic-complex
What does that have to do with key moments of just plain bad football? You have so many excuses.
So your thought process is if phase 2 was complete Bubba would have called timeout vs NDSU on 4th down, we would have run out the clock vs missou st, we would NOT have called timeout to start the 2nd half vs USD….I could go on and on? Do I have that correct? -
2 hours ago, Nodak78 said:
You could change you moniker to Midwestern Bison. We would all understand.
Is it that hard to understand that we choked in that moment. Call me whatever you want. NDSU had nobody back to catch the punt, left their defense in. They knew exactly what was happening . How did we not call timeout? Who would not call timeout!?
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26 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:
Getting paid. Good for him!
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30 minutes ago, UND1983 said:
Woah woah woah...so everytime a player screws up its because he wasn't prepared by the coaches?
Over time. Absolutely. The more screw ups the less chance of winning. The 4th down vs NDSU was a fantastic example. They were prepared for the trickery, UND had not prepared for NDSU being ready for the fake.
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Some guys are elite coaches, some guys are good coaches, some guys are average coaches, some guys are bad coaches. Usually the pay follows fairly closely behind the results.