Midwestern Hawk
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23 minutes ago, Irish said:
Watching the Bison once again make great plays and pull out a playoff game made me increasingly frustrated with the prospect of another year of Bubba's game management. I know I should be used to it by now but really ... Especially when we should have beaten 2 of the 3 teams still playing.
100%. From a roster standpoint, we are largely there, from an in-game coaching standpoint we are not even close. At this point it's about a 90% certainty we will all get all fired up for next August and end up being let down in a major way...yet again.
I wonder how much time the staff really breaks down how bad this season went? Do they understand exactly how awful and cataclysmic for the program their collective "deer-in-the-headlights" moment vs NDSU was? The game and the entire season unraveled at that moment.
I for one will really struggle watching an SU vs SU tilt in Frisco. IMO either of those staffs would have won using our players vs their rosters and that is the current state of UND football. I think the evidence supporting that hypothesis was on display in almost every game this season.
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37 minutes ago, Kab said:
I don’t think their fullback played all that much this year so was a perfect time to put more plays in for him.
they did that same thing to us in Fargo, not prepared for him
call it whatever you want, preparation, skill, luck,Coaching, I still hate the sob ‘s
I struggled watching last night. This all just sucks.
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11 minutes ago, jdub27 said:
I thought the talent level was pretty damn equal in the game. Or did you see something no one else did?
And I'm not sure an extra 30 seconds routinely roll off the clock at the end of a one score game where a team is obviously trying to run it out and the refs don't bother to reset it, but I'd love to see all these egregious mistakes in similar big moments since it happens "alot".
From a skill level, JMU has more talent IMO and its really not that close. NDSU won the game behind their 250 FB. How hard is it to find a 250lb FB who can run a 4.8/4.9 40? Their QB has been in and out of the lineup the last 2 seasons, so he is hardly a "star". A question for our staff is why no HL in the bullpen to hammer games away when we have the lead(MIZZOU ST)?
NDSU also kicked a 20 and a 43 yard field goal.(should be automatic in D1 football).
As for the play clock? Its home field advantage, and if JMU would have been on their game they would have noticed right away and had the time restored. If the roles were reversed, I have a feeling NDSU would have noticed. There is no "luck" involved in any of this. Maybe a lucky bounce now and then, but overall NO LUCK INVOLVED.
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10 minutes ago, jdub27 said:
They don't get in situations without an immense amount of talent and skill but it's absolutely uncanny how breaks always seem to fall their way. Case in point:
Not sure what your point is here. Stuff like that happens in games alot.
I hear the "talent" excuse on SS all the time. Which team had more "talent" in this game?
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9 hours ago, Sioux94 said:
I saw that too on some replays they showed later, their QB totally went with his first read into double coverage, the other guy was in middle of field going opposite direction in somewhat of the same area and would have easily walked in with nobody in 10 yards of him. That INT in end zone at the end, that was a helluva pick by the DB I'll give them that. SU always makes the big play when it's needed. It's uncanny.
Its culture, coaching, preparation and attention to detail. The 4th down play vs the Bison this fall is the perfect summary for why Entz & co are going to win their 9th national championship in the last 11 years and our staff has been out recruiting for the last month. They were prepared for every scenario and we were not.
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1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:
Exactly.
How many games has UND played in December in the Bubba era??
One game in December in the Bubba era. December 3, 2016 vs Richmond. I think most of us remember the story line of that game whether we want to remember or not. I think that qualifies as another "p!$$ed it down the leg".
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7 hours ago, siouxfan512 said:
This is very frustrating watching a team UND should have beat move onto the championship. Potentially against another team we should have beat. Would of, should of, could of. We outplayed teams we lost to, and this is how it ends. Very very frustrating.
It just rolls on and on. It was there for us this season and we p!$$ed it down our collective leg. I have a feeling that window is closed for this staff now. Hopefully I’m wrong.
Please stop with comments insinuating the Bison get lucky and UND just doesn’t get lucky. Those comments are just flat out embarrassing at this point.
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On 12/15/2021 at 5:42 PM, TBR said:
Did you take freshman English at UND? Did they not teach you about proper use of reflexive pronouns?
I must have failed. Shame on me for improper use of reflexive pronouns....
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48 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said:
Wouldn't they need to play to win only 1 playoff game if the playoffs start after Thanksgiving?
You are correct. Last regular season game is 11/19 @ NDSU. First round playoffs would be 11/26, second round would be 12/4, So UND would either need to be a seed or win a playoff game to play in December.
So in reality UND wins a playoff game or wins 8+ regular season games and is a seed to still be playing football in December of 2022.
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1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:
What are the odds UND plays a game in December 2022??
Playing in December would mean that UND either wins 2 games in the playoffs or UND is a seed and hosts a home playoff game and wins that game.
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12 hours ago, UND Fan said:
Believe me - there have been many discussions between Bubba and Chaves. However, you are not going to hear or read about them unless an extension or termination is to take place.
Good news on Chaves making his expectations known and clear. Based on your post, looks like no extension then unless Bubba has a very good season in 2022.
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53 minutes ago, Irish said:
Although perhaps poorly worded, that was an actual question. Does anyone have any insight into anyone - friends, donors, coaches etc. who can talk to Bubba about what went on last season? It seems like the AD is missing in action. My guess is that he is the same shucky-darn, work harder, day by day guy in real life and is hard to get to do some serious evaluation of what went right and wrong. Any chance of change? I know he will always be the guy who punts on the opponents 35 yard line, but the other stuff really bit us this year. Given the challenges of roster building with the portal next year is crucial to our program. We have to stop shooting ourselves in the foot. Another mediocre or worse season could dig us a serious hole.
Bubba started as a head coach almost 20 years ago, and personally I don't think he is going to change unless it was forced on him, and even then not sure what that looks like. I am not sure who would/could do that. As you say, the AD seems to be AWOL on this and even the guys on 360(his brother and Kelly) don't really acknowledge how bad some of the game management etc was this fall, at least not publicly. I think Bubba has 2 years left on his current contract, so a decision on that will be forced over the next 12 months.
What are the scenarios?
Best case scenario(a few of us have to eat our words, especially me) Bubba gets the game management cleaned up, the holes get filled on D, the offense is markedly better and we can kick FG's. UND wins 9-11 regular season games, top 3 MVFC, playoff seed and makes a playoff run.
Scenario 2: Same game management but the the rest of the above happens. UND wins 5-8 games
Scenario 3: Same game management and the team is not as good as 2021. UND wins 3-5 games.
Scenario 4: Same game management, the team is not as good and we start 0-4. UND wins less than 4 games.
Top scenario or if Bubba wins 7+ games, he has contract extended and if its scenario 1, I am firmly on board with that. If Bubba wins 6 or less games what Chaves, etc do? Obviously there are other variables my scenarios don't address like crowd size, program excitement level, a victory over NDSU and less than 7 wins, etc.
What does everyone think?
Is it possible Chaves still gives him an extension this winter?
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17 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:
Low. Bubba loves UND, and I enjoy Bubba as a person, but he needs to retire/resign for UND improvement sake.
100% agree with this, Bubba is an awesome person and is a great representative of UND. We will all get fired up right before the fall 2022 season and be thinking about championships and hardware(including myself), but the reality is I would be willing to bet we finish with no higher than 6 wins and more likely between 3 and 5 unless we somehow start the season a minimum of 2-2. Can definitely see a 3-1 finish to the season, just need to get through the first 7.
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Here is link to MIDCO signing day special. Some good looking recruits.
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16 minutes ago, Dustin said:
According to Tom Miller's article, Larson is done.
Thanks. Glad Morrison is back.. That is big. Larson will be missed.
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On 11/24/2021 at 8:08 AM, Midwestern Hawk said:
Here is the 2-deep from SDSU: In BOLD are the guys who are gone as of right now, either eligibility is up or portal. Krzanowksi is coming back as is Maag. Anyone have any info on Jalen Morrison or Noah Larson? As of right now the offense comes back almost intact besides Waletzko.
DEFENSE
Defensive End 49 Ben McNaboe 88 Luke Lennon
Nose Tackle 0 Jalen Morrison 52 Chandon Pierre
Defensive End 51 Quintin Seguin 93 Elijah Beach
Outside Linebacker 19 Ty Shannon 34 Josh Navratil
Inside Linebacker 44 Devon Krzanowski 10 Caden White
Inside Linebacker 40 Noah Larson 42 Kason Kelley
Outside Linebacker 15 Jaxson Turner 9 Marcus Vaughn-Jones
Cornerback 6 Evan Holm 22 Caleb Nelson
Safety 17 Hayden Galvin 24 Kadon Kauppinen
Safety 25 Jordan Canady 11 Jayson Coley
Cornerback 3 C.J. Siegel 23 Sam Robertson
OFFENSE
Tight End 39 Adam Zavalney 81 Billy Riviere
Left Tackle 72 Colin Lavell 73 Jack Kuntz
Left Guard 78 Ben Christian 67 Andrew Fenton
Center 68 Babak Ghadaksaz 79 Peyton Lotysz
Right Guard 77 Easton Kilty 67 Andrew Fenton
Right Tackle 74 Donny Ventrelli 75 Sam Hagen
Wide Receiver 89 Garett Maag 1 Bo Belquist
Wide Receiver 1 Bo Belquist 5 Jake Richter
Wide Receiver 12 Marcus Preston 4 Brock Boltmann
Quarterback 2 Tommy Schuster 14 Quincy Vaughn
Running Back 26 Otis Weah 7 Luke Skokna
SPECIALS
Punter 87 Cade Peterson 45 Adam Stage 37 Sean Fenelon
Kicker 92 Brady Stevens 45 Adam Stage 37 Sean Fenelon
Holder 87 Cade Peterson 37 Sean Fenelon
Long Snapper 96 Ross Hinders 32 Dylan Boecker
Kickoff Returners 7 Luke Skokna 6 Evan Holm
Punt Returners 7 Luke Skokna 12 Marcus Preston
Here is updated 2 -deep from the SDSU game. Canady, Turner, Larson, Holm and Galvin especially started a ton of games for us over the last 4-5 years. Need some guys to really step up this spring and next fall.
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31 minutes ago, SkoHawks said:
Any idea if Noah Larson is coming back for sure? Wasn't talked about or listed on projected 2022 starters during Midco's signing day special. Hoping just some paperwork or something that they couldn't talk about it officially.
Any way to watch the MIDCO signing show? Is the Noah thing for sure?
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25 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
... leave me wondering why they haven't found a home yet.
The worthwhile transfers likely already have found a home.
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9 hours ago, nd1sufan said:
Listen to the pre game preach by UND’s biggest cheerleader Kelly Howe before the NDSU game. He said UND needed to play flawlessly and get some breaks to beat NDSU because the talent and athleticism were not near equal. And he hates NDSU.
Not sure why this matters. Did you not watch the game? UND should have won the game.
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46 minutes ago, UND1983 said:
I hope these recruits are good enough for the program overlords on here.
You tell me.
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1 hour ago, UND1983 said:
For real? I never knew that tidbit
Is there anyone on SS who is more defensive of a 5-6 program than yourself?
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On 5/15/2021 at 6:13 AM, Midwestern Hawk said:
The national championships, P5 victories and high draft choices have given NDSU a national name brand. Obviously it’s not in same level as P5 heavyweights, but it’s impressive nonetheless.;
As for UND football and the university, the window is open now. Bubba ad the boys need to step through it, and the success this spring season will be foundational.
Here is my first post on this thread. IMO, this fall was our chance, Bubba's chance, UND's chance to take it to the next level. We pissed that chance down our collective leg, and I am just not over it yet. I will still write my checks, buy my season tickets, and hopefully get over it soon.
I just think the future for UND football is now really cloudy.
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3 hours ago, jdub27 said:
If those were the only two highlights you took out of this whole season, your whole attitude about the program makes a lot more sense now.
8 years in, I'm no longer willing to accept, "we were close" or "the guys played hard", when 2 of our 3 biggest rivals are still playing. The games vs NDSU and SDSU were very winnable.
I guess I overlooked our wins...
Beat IdSU(1-10), Drake(2-9), WIU(2-9), IllSU(4-7), & YSU(3-7)...a combined 12-42. Which other highlights from this fall did I overlook?
Again after 8 years, "quality losses" are no longer acceptable. Ask yourself, am I being negative or just realistic and what are your expectations?
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11 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:
We didn’t give up on him. He left us hanging after we went above and beyond and dealt with his bull$%!#. The door swings out at the exit but locks behind you.
Amen.
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