Midwestern Hawk
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14 hours ago, Sioux94 said:
So because most of us don't automatically assume things like Ziebarth will never be a capable back....etc. etc., that means we all have blind faith/ignorance? Ok And I think the fact that there are people on here discussing football in March.....is a good thing.
Passion is a great thing.
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3 hours ago, nodak651 said:
Interesting. I think we're going to have one of the best offenses in the country and I think our defense is going to be better as well, in large part, due to the coaching changes. I think we're gonna be a top ten team.
Since you've been fairly down about the program/bubba, I'm curious what you were thinking we were on the cusp of? For example: Championship, Semi Finals quality, quarters, etc?
IMO program was on the rise through the spring season. Maybe I was fooled, but I thought we had arrived and would be where SDSU now sits. UND should ALWAYS be a top 10 team, and a top 3 MVFC team. We made the playoffs last fall, but we were like 3 plays from being 4-7 instead of 7-4. We crapped the bed in Fargo and in the first half of the playoff game.
My heart says 8-3 or 9-2, my brain after 9 years of Bubba Ball says, we have 3 guaranteed wins, 3 guaranteed losses, and if the stars line up will win 4 of the other 5 and we will all be praying for a way into the playoffs come November.
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4 hours ago, AJS said:
I've learned over the years to pump the breaks on optimism, so who knows. I'm not seeing what you're seeing in the Secondary. They only lose Coley and Agyekum. You think Ocansey is an unknown? I am confident the CB position will be an actual strength. When we talk about comparing to last year, I would have a hard time believing that Safety would be worse. Not saying it'll be a strength, but I would think it should be improved (healthy Fort and Buckner in Yr 2).
Agree that the Secondary will be better than last year? I don't see how it wouldn't be.
D-Line. This is a bit more of an unknown, but they really only lose Morrison (which is a loss) and then more Depth. They lose #'s, but I like what they brought in from the Portal. Like Safety, I don't think they'll be worse.
LB I'm with you. I feel ok about ILB, but no idea what to think about OLB. At the same time, they weren't great last year, so how much worse could the OLB position actually get?
A couple years ago it felt like the program was on the cusp, now it feels to me like will be fighting for .500.
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35 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:
Why do you think we will be worse on paper this year than last year. I would think BH would have left last year if that is what he was worried about, we lost a ton on defense going into last year....from the previous year. This year most are back. Our corners have more experience, hopefully Buckner has picked things up at Safety....and Fort is healthy, we got a few DL transfers I believe. Haven't done a thorough look through to compare, but I think on paper we are slightly better than last year. We were pretty bad last year though, so only slightly better on paper still isn't really that good. Defense will still be our biggest concern and likely our biggest weakness this fall. Our offense is going to have to carry us again, and I am just hoping our Defense makes some timely plays when needed.
BH thought he had more going into last fall, than he actually had. Never came together.
For all of our sakes, I hope you are correct. Last years D was not good by any stretch of the imagination. We gave up over 30 points a game, 10 points more per game than in 2021. We all knew going in with what had been lost from the previous year, I was hoping for improvement as the year went on and some guys would step up, It did not happen. IMO, Even Krzanowski and Siegel had weaker seasons in 2022, due to the lack of supporting cast around them.
DL is still undersized and lots of question marks after the first 3, LBs are super key in a 3-4 and I have question marks at all 4 positions. Siegel will be strong, and Kaupinen is a liability in coverage, the other CB and safety are unknowns. Again, hopefully I am wrong
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31 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:
A downgrade job.....with a higher salary. Let that sink in.
Like I said BH also knew it was time to move on. On paper, the defense will be worse than last fall and will be miles from some of his previous D's. Joel will need to be a magician for the D to be even average.
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On 2/13/2023 at 9:20 AM, farce poobah said:
The timing of announcement gives hints as to what went on behind the scenes.
Immediately after last game, Head Coach asks DC for assessment, top to bottom of players, training, and all the DC staff. And presumably a list of what to change for next season to improve results.
HC reviews the resulting assessment (couple weeks later), asks for changes (perhaps to DC staff). They disagree. HC says "its time to part ways, but I'll give you the chance to announce it to the world first".
Bottom line, I think there's more changes to come.
I think BH got out while the getting was good, but time will tell. How do we think this team will stop the run next season? The offense will need to score 35 a game to win. Anyone have any updates from Spring Ball?
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Are we sure Holinka didn’t get out on his own terms before next season? Without major upgrades at LB and S(I don’t see it at this point), how is the defense going to be any better?
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On 1/4/2023 at 12:37 PM, nodak651 said:
Relative to the competition, does Deboer have better or worse facilities than Bubba? Despite the football team still not having a legit locker room (old one was going to be condemned) Bubba has put together a top 15 football program and the team is getting better and better. Program is still trending in the right direction whether you feel like admitting it or not. Program support matters just as much as coaching - see Stig for example. Bubba just crushed Petrino this year as well, in Petrino's third season, but coaching...
Bubba is a great man. I am just tired of being 1-2 games over .500 or 1-2 games under .500, with games lost to questionable coaching. Facilities have nothing to do with X’s and O’s. Washington is a great example . Only thing which changed in Seattle, is X’s and O’s, culture and game management. If being a the best man won championships, we would need a gymnasium to house all the hardware won over the last decade.
We should be in Frisco today. We should be there 25% of the time, minimum.
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5 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:
11-2 in his first year at "UDub"? Gushing seems reasonable. UDub was 4-8 in 2021.
I have three UDub relatives. When DeBoer was hired they asked me. I said we picked Bubba over; they cringed. I said UND screwed up. They were still skeptical.
I set "the number" at 8 wins. If the UDub 2022 record was under 8 wins I'd owe a 1.75 of Tito's for each game under 8. Contrarily, for each win over 8 they'd owe me a 1.75 of Tito's. I made the bet with each of the three. So 11 wins, 3 over 8, times 3 bets ... 3 times 3 bets times 1.75 ... yeah, lotta Tito's coming to me. In my email this morning was note to go to Costco and send them the bill. And they didn't seem upset at all.
Coaching doesn't matter...
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On 12/27/2022 at 1:03 PM, UND-FB-FAN said:
Kinda missing the point, aren’t you?
Re: Player utilization and development.
@UND1983 etal :
"The coaching staff along with Baukol consistently develop the worst talent in the MVFC into a team which is consistently a game over .500". Credit where credit is due...
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10 minutes ago, UND08 said:
You missed the memo MH...you're not allowed to be a UND fan and publicly question how things are done with the program! We're just supposed to coach the same way, recruit the same way, administer the program the same way...and expect different results will just come! We have to #TrustTheProcess for ten years and it'll eventually pay off!
Or at least that's what I've been told both here and on social media...
We are a game or two over .500 or under .500 every season because we are not lucky and NSDU and SDSU battle for championships every season because they are just "lucky"
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1 hour ago, F'n Hawks said:
Considering it was a big part of the first D1 home playoff game meltdown, I think you can make the argument they are pretty close.
Both bad, but we went for it at our own 20 yard line on 4th and 1...with the lead... in the 3rd quarter...against NDSU...with the lead.
I don't think the NDSU debacle will ever be topped, but the double reverse just reinforces my overall point.
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15 hours ago, jdub27 said:
It's truly astounding how you can continously contradict yourself to make each and every scenario fit your agenda and you either refuse see it or are just wilfully ignorant about it. I mean, bravo to blindly have that much conviction about something I guess?
How does that contradict what I have said? Danny called the play, Danny works for Bubba. Why do so many of you make excuses for mediocrity over and over again? Over time there is NO LUCK involved in winning and losing football games. The 4th down vs NDSU is probably the worst situational football move I can remember. If anyone can think of a worse situational move by a college or NFL football coach, let me know.
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2 hours ago, Sioux94 said:
Did Bubba call that play? On 4th down....does the OC run the play by the coach first or does he just run it? That I don't know the answer to. Bubba may have had veto power but I hardly doubt he got on the headset and told Danny....hey let's run that one trick play...
Danny should get most of the blame for the play call if you are going to blame someone. However, any time a trick play is run.....if it doesn't work.....people think it's the worst call in history. But when they run it and it works....all of the sudden they are brilliant. Thinking back to last year, our OL was not good at picking up short yardage. Remember our -1 yard average running the ball on 2nd and short last year? Danny must have felt the couldn't punch it up the gut with a stacked line on 4th and short and tried to catch them off guard, obviously turned into a disaster.
I agree, I m sure Danny called the play. I’m sure Bubba saw it run in pravtice, I’m sure they speak on Sunday game-planning, during the week and pre game. The debacle vs NDSU was a “trick play” too. Burned badly on both. Neither involved sound situational football which reinforces my larger point.
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8 minutes ago, nodak651 said:
4 is less than 5.
Less than half of 4 is 1.
At best, you're saying UND completed the play 1 out of 4 attempts in practice?
You're a joke.I am saying that play was not run enough successfully in practice and that is why it was a cluster.... in the game. That is how football works.
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Just now, nodak651 said:
That's not the play that lost us the game. That play came later when Otis fumbled on a basic run play.
The first play lost the game . That’s not championship football. It’s a BS play call and happens all the time. Like I said I would be the farm the play was run less than 5 times in practice that week and likely successful less than half the time.
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17 minutes ago, nodak651 said:
not at all what happened. https://missouristatebears.com/watch/?Archive=1772&type=Archive 56 seconds
Direct snap to Otis who fumbled the handoff/toss to Bo. Not that complex. Looks like its as much Bo's fault if anything.
In case anyone has forgotten UND was dominating the game at that point, up 28-17 with 6:32 left. 4th and 2 at Missouri State 29 yard line. We direct snap to Otis, he hands it to Bo who is going to throw a pass to Q. I would love to know how many times that play worked flawlessly in practice.
As for fault, its Bubba's fault. That is how football works.
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3 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
Mentioning that guy, he either has a 40 or a 140 IQ. He's a fool or a savant. Performance points to the latter.
I watched him on a few plays, one being where he lined up on the right in unbalanced and he was 20 yards downfield blocking a DB. Very impressive every play I watched him. Was he a 5 star recruit? Why don't we ever develop any lineman like that? If we have lately, someone please remind me.
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On 12/17/2022 at 8:01 PM, shep said:
That contradicts another expert's view that UND only recruits D2 players. Coaching could get them there?
I disagree on the recruiting(it can always be better). Look at this fall. Look at last fall. Which had better players. It's easy to make the case that the coaching decisions were directly responsible for a minimum of 2 loses in 2021 fall season. Who were all the great players playing for NDSU Friday night? A LT who came to Fargo at 225 pounds? Is the the great recruit or was he developed? The QB who completed 1 pass? I saw a team which used home field advantage and some great coaching adjustments to beat a superior team. I hate the frickin' Bison with a passion, but that is what I saw.
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6 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said:
Nope. This coaching staff can be fairly and rightly criticized for a lot of things but I feel like there are some on here that are trying to reach and criticize for things that simply aren’t accurate or we have no way in knowing whether it’s accurate.
Go back and look a the film. Two handoffs and then a throw. Q was going out for a pass.
I admit, Friday and Saturday was tough for me. We are not only the little weak brother to NDSU at this point, we are also the little weak brother to SDSU. This staff has reached its Zenith, however long it is in place, we will be treated to frustrating 5-7 win seasons, with an occasional 3-4 wins and if everything falls into place 8-9 wins. It could be worse, we could be Indiana State or Western Illinois, but that level of football would not be accepted in Grand Forks.
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38 minutes ago, shep said:
But what about the narrative that the SU game LAST YEAR was lost when Bubba went for it on 4th down?
The entire season was lost on that play, probably the pinnacle of his career at UND. I love Bubba as a man, but that was an indefensible sequence.
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On 12/17/2022 at 8:30 PM, F'n Hawks said:
Yea, I don’t think it was his fault Otis fumbled.
Do you forget the first fumble was a trick play?
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10 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said:
Yikes that’s a bad take. Yes, both of those staffs are better, but no one is making the semis with the personnel we had on defense this year.
Do you think we could have beaten Weber? Even with some weakness in Defense? Were we prepared? How did we do in the first half? Many of the same tendencies, especially on the road?
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4 minutes ago, Teeder11 said:
Love your optimism for a change. Oh, and I want what you’re smoking tonight, Chief. LOL!
Just being honest . Bubba gave the game away vs the national champions last fall, win that game and everything is different. The game was also given away at MSU, horrible game @USD, could have won at SIU?
after a decade of this, the alternative is that we have woefully inadequate players, facilities and the staff is all that keeps us from being a bottom dweller. You get to pick which you think is closer to the truth.
befire making you decision, make sure you watch fall if 2021 games vs The SU’s….
2023 Football Season
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The day the season starts I will likely be back to 100% fan and be hoping for a championship season, my excitement will likely grow after drubbing Drake and what should be a victory at home vs NAU. Boise will very likely bring us back to reality. SDSU and NDSU are probably "ripe" for the picking, as some on here have pointed out, with changes at both programs. At this point, I just don't have the confidence we can get either job done.
If we are, in fact, 3-3 after 6, the tilt @UNI becomes hugely important. A victory there, and a hell of a season is still possible, 3-4 and then we are back to our usual "must-win" late season scenarios to even make the playoffs.