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8 minutes ago, nodak651 said:
4 is less than 5.
Less than half of 4 is 1.
At best, you're saying UND completed the play 1 out of 4 attempts in practice?
You're a joke.I am saying that play was not run enough successfully in practice and that is why it was a cluster.... in the game. That is how football works.
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Just now, nodak651 said:
That's not the play that lost us the game. That play came later when Otis fumbled on a basic run play.
The first play lost the game . That’s not championship football. It’s a BS play call and happens all the time. Like I said I would be the farm the play was run less than 5 times in practice that week and likely successful less than half the time.
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17 minutes ago, nodak651 said:
not at all what happened. https://missouristatebears.com/watch/?Archive=1772&type=Archive 56 seconds
Direct snap to Otis who fumbled the handoff/toss to Bo. Not that complex. Looks like its as much Bo's fault if anything.
In case anyone has forgotten UND was dominating the game at that point, up 28-17 with 6:32 left. 4th and 2 at Missouri State 29 yard line. We direct snap to Otis, he hands it to Bo who is going to throw a pass to Q. I would love to know how many times that play worked flawlessly in practice.
As for fault, its Bubba's fault. That is how football works.
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3 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
Mentioning that guy, he either has a 40 or a 140 IQ. He's a fool or a savant. Performance points to the latter.
I watched him on a few plays, one being where he lined up on the right in unbalanced and he was 20 yards downfield blocking a DB. Very impressive every play I watched him. Was he a 5 star recruit? Why don't we ever develop any lineman like that? If we have lately, someone please remind me.
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On 12/17/2022 at 8:01 PM, shep said:
That contradicts another expert's view that UND only recruits D2 players. Coaching could get them there?
I disagree on the recruiting(it can always be better). Look at this fall. Look at last fall. Which had better players. It's easy to make the case that the coaching decisions were directly responsible for a minimum of 2 loses in 2021 fall season. Who were all the great players playing for NDSU Friday night? A LT who came to Fargo at 225 pounds? Is the the great recruit or was he developed? The QB who completed 1 pass? I saw a team which used home field advantage and some great coaching adjustments to beat a superior team. I hate the frickin' Bison with a passion, but that is what I saw.
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6 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said:
Nope. This coaching staff can be fairly and rightly criticized for a lot of things but I feel like there are some on here that are trying to reach and criticize for things that simply aren’t accurate or we have no way in knowing whether it’s accurate.
Go back and look a the film. Two handoffs and then a throw. Q was going out for a pass.
I admit, Friday and Saturday was tough for me. We are not only the little weak brother to NDSU at this point, we are also the little weak brother to SDSU. This staff has reached its Zenith, however long it is in place, we will be treated to frustrating 5-7 win seasons, with an occasional 3-4 wins and if everything falls into place 8-9 wins. It could be worse, we could be Indiana State or Western Illinois, but that level of football would not be accepted in Grand Forks.
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38 minutes ago, shep said:
But what about the narrative that the SU game LAST YEAR was lost when Bubba went for it on 4th down?
The entire season was lost on that play, probably the pinnacle of his career at UND. I love Bubba as a man, but that was an indefensible sequence.
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On 12/17/2022 at 8:30 PM, F'n Hawks said:
Yea, I don’t think it was his fault Otis fumbled.
Do you forget the first fumble was a trick play?
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10 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said:
Yikes that’s a bad take. Yes, both of those staffs are better, but no one is making the semis with the personnel we had on defense this year.
Do you think we could have beaten Weber? Even with some weakness in Defense? Were we prepared? How did we do in the first half? Many of the same tendencies, especially on the road?
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4 minutes ago, Teeder11 said:
Love your optimism for a change. Oh, and I want what you’re smoking tonight, Chief. LOL!
Just being honest . Bubba gave the game away vs the national champions last fall, win that game and everything is different. The game was also given away at MSU, horrible game @USD, could have won at SIU?
after a decade of this, the alternative is that we have woefully inadequate players, facilities and the staff is all that keeps us from being a bottom dweller. You get to pick which you think is closer to the truth.
befire making you decision, make sure you watch fall if 2021 games vs The SU’s….
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7 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said:
So you believe that if Entz or Steiglemeir was coaching the UND team in the spring COVID season they would have been in Frisco?
Last falls team. Yes. This years team would have made it to today with either staff.
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Just now, nodak651 said:
I think my initial post was pretty clear.
Yoo are just showing how little you know about football. Cheers.
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1 minute ago, nodak651 said:
That must be why Bubba got steamrolled by Petrino this year. Oh wait.
Bubba handed the game to Petrino in 2021. No idea why you are so riled up by Petrino or myself? No idea why you would defend Bubba as a football coach vs Petrino. Petrino soring 2020 team was terrible and yet he still won a MVFC and made the playoffs. If Entz and staff or steiglemeier and staff had coached UNDs team they would have still been playing today. 2021 team would have been in Frisco. Some of you will lose your mind over this, but coaching is supreme in football. If you disagree with it’s me are you saying that Bubba is taking a less talented team and getting to .500 via coaching supremacy? Is that really what you think?
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12 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:
I think their man point was that Bubba is a better FCS coach than Petrino. Petrino wanted nothing to do with the FCS other than he needed a job. His only goal was to put lipstick on a pig for as long as he could until he got another job. The lipstick was shining brightly through the 3rd quarter against Arkansas. But that lipstick came off after that and then it was as ugly as ever.
If we are talking about building an FCS program for the long term, I agree. A guy like Petrino who has coached at the top is never going to be satisfied coaching in the FCS.
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4 minutes ago, Teeder11 said:
They go hand in hand. If they don’t, I don’t want any part of it. Plus Bubba gets the nod here on the coaching side head to head.
Unfortunately they don’t go hand in hand . You all forget Petrino took over a perennial doormat and instantly made it relevant winning a conference championship in his first year and qualifying for the playoffs 2 of 3 years . As a football coach there is no comparison . Again I would much rather have Bubba as a neighbor or relative. Petrino wins football games.
did we all forget he did this at Missouri state? Yes that Missouri state. They had one win seasons how many times before he arrived?
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1 hour ago, nodak651 said:
Head to head. Already said it. You chose to ignore it.
I said football coaching not character. Bubba is a much better man, I thought we were talking as a football coach.
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49 minutes ago, UND1983 said:
At the FCS level why isn't he?
This is not a cut on Bubba, but an objective judge would say Petrino is a better football coach at every level including FCS. What is your criteria for saying he is not?
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4 minutes ago, Hawkster said:
Do you still think the dome wasn't much of an advantage for them last night? I'm pretty sure that place was worth more than the 3 point margin of victory.
Huge advantage. Played major difference-maker for them over the last 12 years. ESPN flashed the stats about it on the screen near beginning of game. Does anyone think our game with Weber has a different outcome if it is in the Alerus?
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27 minutes ago, AJS said:
Will NDSU’s run end sometime? Maybe. Once you accept that they will most likely win it this year, next year, year after, a game like last night you just shrug off. Watching The Word blow it at one point would have been so frustrating, now not so much.
Hoping for Montana State today.
Edit: 3 out of 4 NDSU playoff games they have >99% chance of winning. Most years there’s that one game that hypothetically could go either way. NDSU’s ability to always make “the play” is fascinating, but not as much as the opponents inability to make “the play” or “the drive”, every time.
It is past the point of wow. They came out flat last night, Cam Miller was way off on his throws, NDSU had no answer for the Word QB. They persevered and adjusted. Props to them. What they have done will never be done again at any level. As a Hawk, it sucks, as a fan of football its amazing. They beat us this fall because we continually get caught up in the fact they are NDSU, they won last night because they knew they were going to win.
Sun Tzu.
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1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:
All in all, NDSU was the better team, sucks cause it was close, but NDSU still good enough to get to Frisco. Sickening. Disgusting. All words to express displeasure.
I hate NDSU but you have to give them respect. They just do their thing and keep winning. Frustrating. We will get to have another 5-7 win season next fall.
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13 hours ago, nodak651 said:
For UND, yes.
Edit: And really, you don't know what my point is? I can quote some more of your posts if you would like.
So you are telling me and everyone on this thread that Bubba is a better football coach than Petrino? Remember I did not say better person, I said better football coach. If that what you are trying to say, how about some actual proof.
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UIW Qb making bison look very bad.
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On 12/15/2022 at 9:00 AM, nodak651 said:
If only UND was wise enough to have hired Petrino the program would be in a way better position right now, right?
Actually, looks like Petrino is leaving Missouri State with a losing record vs Bubba. Is Petrino leaving Missouri State with an empty cupboard right before signing day?
Not sure what your point is? You are saying Bubba is a better coach than Petrino? Is that what your are saying?
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On 12/10/2022 at 2:52 PM, The Sicatoka said:
UND failed to control what was its to control.
Win that game, more than likely get the 7 or 8 seed and a bye and make NDSU play an opening round game (and likely go on the road in the round of 16).
Says it all. Until that happens the rest is noise.
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I agree, I m sure Danny called the play. I’m sure Bubba saw it run in pravtice, I’m sure they speak on Sunday game-planning, during the week and pre game. The debacle vs NDSU was a “trick play” too. Burned badly on both. Neither involved sound situational football which reinforces my larger point.