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There may be a reason for that other than a lack of interest. I tend look to the USCHO board since it has more objective discussion with posters that watch the games.

How is UNO and Denver's football team doing? It is kind of funny in that I did not mention women's hockey. I also did not start the ROI discussion. I talked about increasing costs. I must have hit on a sacred cow. There have been athletic budget issues at UND before women's athletics were funded. I suspect there will be budget issues ahead even if cuts are made. I have seen articles were the cost of athletics is rising faster than revenues from athletics and the cost of academics. I hope attendance does rise for football past its peak attendance. We also have to remember costs have risen since those days. Struggling with athletic budgets is not unique to UND. It is not restricted to FCS, it is not restricted to schools that have certain programs. I will let the administrators make those decisions.

So I guess not wanting UND to continue to lose 1.5M dollars a year on one sport is somehow sexist!! Since the average FCS team loses around 2.5 based on Bloomberg article, looking at costs shouldn't be a problem, right.

Ok tell me how you are going reconcile costs rising faster than revenues in FCS football? Since this a budget crisis and all, wouldn't it be prudent not to look only at cost of programs but costs within programs. And for the record, I followed UND's football signing day.

The point is for one program, it supposed be all about dollars and cents and ROI. For other programs, it is about hyperbole such a potential and supposed prestige. What is it going to cost to fund at championship levels? How is it going to be funded? What are those limits? People advocate FBS thinking their is money to be made, show me the money. I see people advocating to stay in what they consider a more "prestigious" conference when it costs the athletic department more. Most people outside their regions couldn't tell you who is in the WAC, Big Sky, or Summit.

So the facility was just for football. Are the costs for operation allocated to the football program?

After cutting the sports, would it better to divert money from football to basketball since we would probably get a better ROI at less cost?

So advocating the set up below (Clemson's football facility) to stay at championship level? Also outside is what's called the Player Village. It has a basketball court, a putt-putt course, a sand volleyball court, a whiffle ball court, more outdoor fire pits, a player pavilion and a lawn area in the shape of a football where players can set up yard games or chairs and watch a movie on a 20-by-20 foot pop-up movie screen. There are also grills and wood-burning fireplaces for the team to eat together. "This was opened up yesterday for the players, and they wore this out last night," Turnipseed said. Back inside, there's a player's lounge with Xbox games, arcade games, ping-pong tables, pool tables and a bowling alley.

There’s a cost associated with that exposure, according to NCAA research. Subsidies increased an average of $1.2 million when teams reclassified from FCS to FBS. When the report says the dependence on student fees will decrease, it doesn’t actually mean students will pay less. Currently, JMU student fees account for almost 80 percent of the $33 million it costs to fund JMU athletics. CarrSports’ report estimates that percentage will drop to 72.7 percent to 74.8 percent, but because expenses are expected to increase by 12.8 to 13.7 percent, the cost per student would still increase. In fiscal year 2011, the program’s (UMass Amherst) last year in FCS, football expenses totaled $4.4 million, $3.2 of which came from university support, student fees and out-of-state tuition waivers. UMass Amherst’s first year in the FBS was expected to cost $5.4 million with $4.4 coming from the university and students. Instead, expenses totaled $6.0 million, $5.0 million of which came from university sources and student fees. Last fiscal year, the football budget was projected to be $6.5 million, with $4.2 million from the university and students. Instead, football expenses came in at $7.2 million, with at least $4.5 million from the university and students.

In the past decade, annual football expenses at a typical FCS school have increased from less than $2 million to $3.5 million. In the same period, revenue has expanded from $430,000 to $1 million. Every time a school eliminates a sport, it blames the rising cost of scholarships or Title IX. But a growing body of independent research, including The Post’s, shows the real story. Example: Rutgers is $36.3 million in the red. In 2006, it pled necessity in cutting a half-dozen sports. Yet at the same time, Rutgers was spending $175,000 on hotel rooms for six home football games — more than the entire budget of the eliminated men’s tennis team.

http://www.lcsun-news.com/story/sports/college/nmsu/2017/01/11/nmsu-athletics-budget-cuts-tops-1-million-over-past-two-years/93936282/ Expenses are rising faster than revenues in athletics. Even Nebraska-Omaha without football and women's hockey faces challenges.

How much institutional support do you want to give athletics versus eliminating an academic program such as nursing at Dickinson State?

Most of the concern on this board about the budget is how it relates to the football program. As for potential, has UND's institutional subsidies decreased or increased than from when it was D2?

http://www.myndnow.com/news/dickinson-news/dsu-president-says-future-is-bright-amid-budget-concerns/643610956

You pretend you know it all and you don't. Quote from SV. Seriously, this coming from you is too much. It is one thing to speculate. It is another to state speculation as fact. Being a message board warrior does not make someone an expert to every program in the country. With that, Merry Christmas to you and yours.

A capsule of rumors: 2014 and prior http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2014/11/20/7256865/baseless-speculation-to-financial-shortages-the-best-of-ncaa-division

Colorado and Colorado St. were ACHA D1 then they dropped down before coming back to D1. Oklahoma and Central Oklahoma have been more formidable than the Colorado schools. Weber St. had a relevant program in ACHA D1 for a couple of years before dropping to D2.

I don't doubt there have been discussions. We don't know at what level and how significant. It's better than talking contraction. Arizona State ACHA budget was $ 250,000 in 2014. Central Oklahoma's budget was $ 90,000 in 2014. https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/13/sports/hockey/in-club-hockey-league-meager-funding-doesnt-kill-appetite-for-competition.html

Some of the teams at this year’s A.C.H.A. tournament believe that with the right financing, facilities and support, they could join Penn State at hockey’s highest level. But, as Battista acknowledged, “there aren’t a lot of Terry Pegulas out there.” I wouldn't get to excited about Colorado. I haven't seen any news articles from Colorado papers regarding impending move. I can go back and produce articles regarding Iowa St., Rhode Island, and Navy looking to going NCAA D1 hockey. Battista at Penn State was trying to get a NCAA program going since the 70's. Murdoch at Iowa State was looking to go D1 about as long. This is similar to Wichita St to AAC. I have seen nothing in the Cincy paper about a move or on the AAC blog at ESPN. The sources mentioned in the blog were probably a couple assistant basketball coaches sitting by the pool drinking a beer and speculating how the conference could increase its RPI.

Ashton Bell who was MFMHL scoring leader last year and Most Valuable Player currently tops league with 26 goals and 9 assists in 17 games. Manitoba's team captain at past U18 Nationals and again has been selected to represent Canada in IIHF U18 World Championships. Malia Schneider leads CSSHL in scoring. Hailey Karbonik is 7th among defense in CSSHL scoring. Gabbie Hughes is second in points among Minnesota High School players. Hanna Olsson is 11th in points in the SDHL(W). Hanna plays in the same league as Karvinen, who is the leading scorer. Willow Slobodzian is 3rd among SFMHL defense in scoring and was awarded league top defensemen in 15-16.

http://piralnews.com/news/Report:-Wichita-State-mentioned-as-possible-addition-to-American-Athletic-Conference

Seemed strange to me also. Doesn't look like the UNI women's soccer program has had much success on the pitch throughout their MVC history.

UNI coaches bio. http://unipanthers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=519 The previous coach took the job at Upper Iowa.

Minot State's head coach bio. http://www.msubeavers.com/staff.aspx?staff=21

I believe she is injured.