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I think when the dust settles and if we get all the information into the situation (which is the biggest part), I don't think too many people will be 100% in either persons corner. Right now, I have no doubt that the contract stinks for UND, but also, Kennedy should have handled it better. Which side I'll end up supporting would be just how bad is the contract / where is the extra money going vs how out of line Kennedy was (that part will be tougher to determine, since it'll be he said / she said). *I shouldn't have said nobody will be 100%, those who have hurt feelings over Kennedy applying for UCF job / cutting Women's hockey will be 100% in one corner

I'm still having a hard time comprehending the 52% of Football sales. Did I miss where someone explained how that would make sense for UND?

There has been a lot of 03’ commits today (mostly east coast schools), as far as UND goes, you’d think they’d be done currently with anyone born before ‘02.

It's clear that McGarry has different interests when it comes to donating money than Ralph did. I mean it makes sense, why would she want to donate any more money than she's forced to, to a University where she has no personal ties?

You both had great questions, ones that I'd love answered. All speculation on my part, but after reading others thoughts and some of the questions that were asked, my theory would be. It's clear that Kennedy wanted to renegotiate, because he feels UND is getting the short end of the stick and they have been for along time. I'd bet that there's excess revenue that's not going into maintenance of the building that the REA Foundation is using for different philanthropic endeavors that have nothing to do with UND. Basically, each year, there's a sum of money that's leaving The Ralph and UND that's going elsewhere. Side note: We all can agree that when Ralph built the arena, that wasn't his intent. That would make sense to me. As simple as someone finally asking where is all the money going. *As others have said, they can spend their money as they'd like, but as I mentioned, I don't think the intent of the contract originally was for money to leave The Ralph / UND. Part II (Edit): Is it possible that Kennedy could have handled himself better? Sure. I'm not saying that at all. I could definitely see a situation where he tries to renegotiate, they reject and he gets frustrated.

One could argue that trying to renegotiate a bad contract at a time when UND is “looking for money” would make sense. For those reading headlines, this doesn’t come off looking good for Kennedy. Brad definitely doesn’t have an agenda though, no ulterior motive at all.

Lots of good discussion, my only hope is that most of the general public will look into some of the details of this and not just base their opinion off headlines (which we know how the Herald is trying to frame it). If I was trying to summarize, would this be fair: The way the current contract is written, on a yearly basis, the revenue split favors the REA Foundation over UND. Kennedy wants to renegotiate better terms with REA Foundation, so that the split is more even. Kennedy is doing what he feels is best for UND, McGarry is doing what's best for the REA Foundation. At the end of the day, I like that Kennedy tried to renegotiate better terms, but should have dropped it once it appeared it was going nowhere. It's obvious the intentions McGarry had by going to the Herald for a sit down. I personally don't think she looks good at all, but will win in the court of public opinion. I would even say that McGarry looks much worse than Kennedy, but ultimately she knows that won't matter (& I'll be in the minority that thinks that). Here's where I'll be attacked. What's so disappointing to me, is I think Kennedy is a true leader that is (& will be great for UND). The problem is GF & UND seem to be even less willing to embrace change than most. They would rather have a complete zero in charge that doesn't change the status quo. I think the town and school still have a "D2" mentality. Anybody who tries to lead will be railroaded. Edit: The last paragraph has to do with the other events Kennedy has been called out for since he started, not so much to this discussion.

I don't think it'll change, unless it's Shaw looking for a different opportunity. It took me just over a decade to finally come to terms that it doesn't matter who is in charge of UND's PP, it'll always be at best, mediocre.

Kunz goes #9 overall to Green Bay in the Phase I USHL draft. Think Schmaltz is the only recruit who is eligible (or hasn't been drafted) for the Phase II draft today.

5-6-11 In 5 games

https://www.usahockeyntdp.com/news_article/show/914753?referrer_id=3865497 Four uncommitted players that will be part of the U-17 team next year, 3 from unconventional recruiting areas. Not sure if there's any mutual interest, but looking at location only, it'd be an even playing field for them.

https://www.usahockeyntdp.com/news_article/show/914753?referrer_id=3865497 Kleven and Sanderson were selected to join next years NTDP U-17 team.

I don't know if it was mentioned, but Miller was a member of the US Under-17 Men's Select Team for the 5 nations tournament. Which is the team that's picked after the Select 16 Player Development Camp. Looks like he was on the top D-pair all tournament with Minnesota recruit Koster. Basically, the best players not in the Development program (01' year). Played in two games with Cedar Rapids (USHL) in what would have been his Sophomore year PPG in High Performance League (Top Midget League U-16) - One of only 8 players that played 15+ games that was PPG (Only D-man) Since he's such a late '01, when talking his class, I'd say he's one of the elite D-man in the country for the '20 class.

Pinto’s a 3.75 as well Pinto seemed to have a really good year, will be interesting to see how he does in Lincoln (if that’s where he plays), could turn out to be a really nice find.

NZ’s tweet when he committed to Miami mentioned he could play both forward and defense. I think it’s pretty clear, based on the position he played last year, that he’s a converted forward that this past year & moving forward will be a defenseman.

https://www.honeybakedhockey.com/commits His team last year (HoneyBaked) has him as a defenseman Listed as defenseman here as well http://hphl.stats.pointstreak.com/playerpage.html?playerid=10338927&seasonid=17177 It does appear he played defense last year, possibly a converted forward, which is why he’s listed as a Forward in a bunch of places. Definitely appears to be a good player.

Are people posting before they are clicking on the links? I don’t know what’s going on right now.

I’m not arguing it can’t happen, I’m just saying do a quick Google search and you’ll see clearly see he was a Junior this past year.

Definitely, it's just not the case in this situation. I only posted two links, but you won't find any other piece of information (besides Schlossman's article) that would indicate he wasn't a Junior this past season (unless like I said he has to redo his Junior year). Edit: I don't know what the numbers are, you're right they could be either, but my guess is April '01 DOB's slant very, very heavily in the favor of going to be Seniors

I looked into that, because given his age, that wouldn't have made sense. Quick Google search I'm fairly certain he's going to be a Senior (unless he has to redo his Junior year). Think Schoss was incorrect in his article. http://www.wkow.com/story/34404590/2017/02/Wednesday/its-in-the-bloodline-with-edgewood-boys-hockey Sophomore - Feb '17 https://www.wausaudailyherald.com/story/sports/high-school/hockey/2018/03/16/prep-hockey-four-local-players-make-first-team-all-state-boys-squad/430925002/ Junior - Mar '18

I'm jealous, also saw that two of Ohio State's stud forwards are both returning for their senior years. Good for those teams, I know these type of situations are more outliers, but every year, there's a handful of teams that seem to really dodge the "early departure bullet". I know with UND and getting smoked with early departures it's more recent, but would be nice for UND to be one of the handful of outliers one of these years (not holding my breath though).

That was Hughes, he’s not, but it’d be Michigan if he ever plays in college

Things can change obviously, but I don't think I'd trade UND's current 02's (Kleven, Bowen, Kunz, Sanderson) for any other schools Top 4 for that years birth year.

My $.02, I think they've only had one class that I'd consider a miss (will be Junior class). What's hurt UND the past couple years is the outrageous number of players that have left early and signed NHL contracts. Outside of I believe BC & BU, they've pretty much doubled that of any other school. It's tough when you have large freshman classes year after year. When you're talking talent, having that many players (outside of Thompson / Johnson), that all made it to the show to in different extents I'd argue says the exact opposite that recruiting is down. Last years freshman class was widely regarded as Top 5, the '19 & '20 classes are loaded as well. I'll just toss out a name like Luke Reid, who played regularly for Penticton as a Sophomore in HS, was a 2nd round WHL pick. He doesn't get a lot of run right now as far as hype, but will be a big time player once he arrives on campus. The '01's and '02's UND has in the pipeline right now are incredibly talented.

When talking Hoff, Yon & Bowen, Hoff is the one player I think has the chance to improve dramatically. Still like Bowen's game as a 4th line energy guy, Yon is just a flat out miss. I don't understand (especially after being a non-factor in juniors), what kind of role the coaching staff thought he could play. One thing is clear, the coaching staff can't have another forward class like the soon to be junior class. Talk about a weight around the teams neck when you have 4 guys that give you virtually nothing offensively. Puts too much stress on the other classes.