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your a riot! You keep digging and digging to try and find any little angle. Damnit your funny. Carry on.....

Says the troll

ndsu has one nice fbs win .... Kansas st... That's it!!! And your right, ndsu did catch them in the their first game with an entirely new roster. Also, Unds roster is mostly freshmen and true sophomores, just like wyoming. Unds true freshman tore up wyoming! In fact, the score of the that game doesn't indicate how easy und manhandled them. Very one sided. So you have any other nonsense to bring to to this board??? Actually one more question... why are you even here????

Ha!!! Again very funny. Those "p5" wins were against garbage!! Combined 9-39 records..... Impressive??? Kansas? Perennial dweller. Minnesota when you played them, they were complete garbage. Kill has recently has changed that. Iowa st?? Ok!?? If you call those "nice" wins because they're p5, congrats!?!!? And you lost to a non p5 wyoming. Ha

That's some funny stuff!! The last time I checked a fbs win is a fbs win, regardless of how bad they are. Right? By your account, ndsu shouldn't count the Kansas win(3-9) last place big 12, both minnesota wins( 1-11/ 3-9) last in big 10, and Iowa st (2-10) last in big12 as quality wins? You have a Kansas st win as your only decent fbs win! That's it! Those 4 teams combined a 9-39 record!? And you lost to wyoming in "08". Oops! You say the fcs has become to watered down. Are you then discrediting your championships?

If they take injuries into factoring a teams fate, then...... How about our starting qb???? Wasn't that a injury?? Look at UNDs record with him and without him. All he did by opening his mouth yesterday made me more pissed off!!!

I think it's pretty clear that the committee doesn't put any thought in quality of win or wins, if they had, UND would be in over E Illinois. This goes back to he old saying " doesn't matter what you know but who you know". Well UND didn't know the right people, E illinois did. The chair for the committee is from the OVC and so is E Illinois. He wanted two teams to be represented in th playoffs and he got it. If UND was the last team left out and E Illinois was the last team in, its then apples to apples with the two teams comparisons. Well when comparing the two teams, it's quite obvious they took quality of losses as the reason for them to be playoff bound!? Losses???? Quality losses made you move on ???? It's how you lose that determines a teams destiny???? After listening to him ( committee chair) yesterday dance around the questions, I have no doubt that his political tongue was able to sway the committee. And yes I'm still mad, mad as hell!!! UND deserved this and were left out. We've waited almost 10 years for a postseason experience and were denied because?........ Well E Illinois knows how to lose better the UND????

Super excited about Holms. Could see him playing asap.

Had Bubba known earlier what the committees criteria was, he would of made sure to lose to wyoming and port st and beat idaho st and weber! No great wins but great loses! Damn it!! Would of been nice to have known that before the games. #quality losses fyi2016 team, a little heads up, make sure to pull the starters for the bowling green game. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO WIN!!!

They fill the qb position with a senior that started the yr before and threw for some thing like 3500 yds 20 tds the yr before. The backup rb 5'9" 205 is EXPLOSIVE and is actually better then the starter. He should finish with about 750 yrds this yr. That Lewis is 6'2" 200 soph who had 1050 yrds true fresh and will be about 1500 this yr and a 6'3" 210 jun will be dynamite. Then add in Mighty Mouse 5'9" 175 jun and ouch!

Next years home schedule is tough, USD brings back nearly everyone and proved themselves in the mvfc. cal poly always reloads SUU losses a few studs on d but return many important pieces. weber st could be very good as they were getting better by the week this yr. not sure who they lose. NAU will be potent . Best qb in fcs? The away games don't look as tough, maybe mont st and UNC? Conference play doesn't include montana, port st, e wash and uc Davis. 3 huge games und won't play bowling green will be incredibly difficult. Ave 400+ yrds passing and return top 3 receivers. I believe they started 2 sen on offense. They bring back two stud LBs and some DEs. Id like to believe they could do some thing in the lines of 9-2. They will still be young next year but more experience and more motivated then last year.

Any chance we have a couple all Americans this yr ?? I think both santiago and ratelle could be 3rd team-ish to honorable mention. They both deserve some attention. How about potential all Americans next yr and beyond: santiago, cole, Grady will be 1st teamers at some point. Those are the easy picks. Taj if healthy could be honorable mention or maybe 3rd if healthy next yr Deion Harris could be honorable mention. Love the length meindel will could be 2nd to 3rd Iwarri is a special talent but not sure where they will keep him or put him but think he could be very special, if at the right position, stockwell kept impressing me more every week and could be on there tank Harris seems to have the "it" factor. Could see him making some noise missing anyone?? On that list 4 are currently fresh, 4 are sophomores and a jun! Talent for many yrs!!!

6 wins qualifies a team for postseason. Eastern illinois should be thanking the heavens above. Not a decent win all yr but was credited for 4 "great" losses. I feel und was above W illinois and miles ahead of e ill for an at large bid. Is und the first team with 7 wins and a fbs win not to make the playoffs??

Just great losses and your in

Incoming recruit evan holm will have a chance to be in the 2 deep conversation. Unds biggest need is to secure a talented qb in this class, then cb and wr. Cloyd received an offer from sdsu after his verbal to und. Austin Gordon looks good but he will be at best 3rd string as und is very talented there. We are talking depth instead of replacing! Und will be strong next yr.

exactly ! Committee: " und, we like the fbs win and the win at port st but look at the great losses e illinois had!!!! They don't have a nice win but losses are fantastic!??????

Although ratelle is irreplaceable, taj will be back and he an animal!!! Love that guy! When he went down, the entire defense wasn't as aggressive until the last couple games. He's a difference maker. The players that I could see being significant contributors next yr that did not play much or at all this yr and this is basing it off the practices I attended: tim dulin- wr. Looks like the real deal. Was hoping they pulled his shirt this yr. Demon taylor -ol. He played sparingly but have like him since his true fresh yr. carl engwall- de. He seems to carry a meanness to him. Mason bennet- olb/ de. He's been injured majority of the time he's been here but his hudl tape shows the size and quickness that have me intrigued. There are not many holes to feel next yr as 10 starters return on d, 7 on offense and the kicker an punter are back. Now were just adding depth!

As down as I am right now, I think we can agree that bubba has this program on the rise! We were THAT close! With all the talent coming back I hope the kids will feel motivated to prove the doubters wrong. Off season starts today, time to get to work. 7 true fresh played in the 2 deep and load of sophomores! Future is bright

I feel for the kids. They poured their hearts out the last 3 weeks and were dominant!!! Damnit this sucks!!!

Eastern Illinois got in ?! 7-4 no fbs wins, no wins over the playoff teams !

looking like it

Ndsu has to go through ill st

20 more minutes!

he's looking for a reaction don't give it to him