Longtime fan

There were some positives out of yesterday’s game …no doubt .. but the most obvious, glaring negative is without a doubt …bubba. He holds the team back time and time again. After a decade of witnessing his sideline demeanor and the results I have come to the conclusion that he is so wrapped with in game fear he doesn't have the capability of making rational decisions. Because it’s every game …namely big games…and the results are perennially the same. Feel bad for the players. It looks like the team wanted to win but bubba constantly put the brakes on. Take chances !!! Show confidence !!! Show some balls !! Yesterday your team was a 28 point dog ! Not like anyone expected you to win. You show your best when you brought out the punter at the 38 yard line. What was the thinking there ? If we punt we might in iowa st 5-10 yards from our scrimmage line? Well the punter decides to send it to the top row. Great call ? Then you had the team walk to the locker room with a chance for a Hail Mary before the half with a TO in the pocket and with a chance for an td or pass interference which maybe could of resulted in a fg opportunity. Nope ! Tail between the knees. Complete wimp out. 4th qtr . Sending the kicker out for some FGs instead of TDs. Lol. It’s Iowa st (p5) at home with the most experienced returning D1 team in the nation. Fgs ?? Fgs?? Hell…if you didn’t succeed at any of them it at least shows your interested in winning . But nope ! You continually show the people why you should never be a HC. How about showing confidence in your players! How about showing some balls so the players feel like they matter . Can almost guarantee that every veteran player yesterday knew exactly what bubba was going to call before he called it. As deflating it is for us fans I couldn’t imagine being a player. year after year year after year year after year ……same BS

Ouch! So UNDs 2024 qb roster depth is not fcs top notch? Average at best maybe ? Very unfortunate. Need a great qb to take it to take next step. Along with a competent HC.

At what point does bubbas never attempting to reach of his box or ultra conservative ways affect the team? What kinda message is sent to his players when you punt on the 38 ? Not attempting a Td but a fg inside your 5 ?? This against a top tier FBS team at home . Over the years the list is so $@&%% long playing the ^%#£! day by day game that I have given up ! How do the players react to this BS? I was a college player back in the day and we had a DC that was absolutely crazy . Great DC but as wild and as unpredictable as they com in play calling. But he brought excitement and energy !! We loved playing for him. Didn’t always work but he/we kept trying. Bubba !?!? Bubbas way is that of a 98 grandma.

True the team seemed like they wanted to win. The big down fall……bubba! He’s gold for not knowing football

Rucker as well

I have for 10 years. In Chaves mind ….he has him up there the Sabans of the world. Extension! Extension! Extension!

Bubba has built the perfect model of mediocrity!! Learn it. Live it. Love it ??

It’s bubba as always -to punt when you’re on the 38!?!? -to go for the FG inside the 5. Against the most experienced FBS team at theirs home !?!?! - to not attempt a Hail Mary with a TO left in the pocket right before the half !?! this guy is so out his league. What does he have to lose against Iowa St with the above mentioned??? another moral victory Yay!!?

Two things standing out so far -Bubba no balls -weak ass secondary

Watched some of this game. Deion is an absolute moron in-game coach. Gives bubba a run for his money. Colorado is bad tho. Take away three players and they don’t win a game. Defense is horrible and the OL should just quit football. Sanders was sacked the most last year and will most definitely be again this year.

#skincolor

A moral victory is the best we can hope for. That’s what we as fans are left with nowadays. Deflating and frustrating . If UND can stay within 21 that’s a moral victory. Bubba has proven over and over and over and over again he can’t win these games. Now it will be Iowa st …..toughest test yet. Bubba can hang his hat on his one fbs win over a two win Wyoming team. Iowa st 7-42 I have attended a couple of practices this year. Will only note one thing. Bo is an absolute stud!!! Why he didn’t transfer to bigger school is beyond me but he is special. Speed at Wr is nice but crisp route running is second to none. Jerry rice and cooper kupp are not “fast” but their route running is what separates them. Bo has that! I have read on this site that und has too many white guys at WR. Not sure what race has to do with because Bo is as good as it gets. I would take him over any other WR in the fcs. The guy is a true football player and WR. Just unsure with a new qb , OL and OC how his stats will show how good he really is.

Nice to have the comps with peer programs PAY FOR 3 COACHES ENDOWMENT UNI $618,000 $163 million Illi st $584,800 $197 million NDSU. $570,400 $457 million USD. $560000 $329 million SDSU. $540000 $213 million YSU $504000 $276 million Mizz St. $493000 $193 million SIU. $460000 $190 million UND $447000 $352 million Ind st. $413000 $70 million Murray. $412000 $91 million Can someone with college endowment knowledge please explain this? When adding up the HC, OC and DC ….UNDs total combined salaries for those three ranks 9th out of 11 programs in MVFC. Yet ….UND is only behind Ndsu in the MVFC with endowment dollars. Clearly UND does very well in donations. I keep hearing on this site for the naggers to put forth more money to help. Und seems to have to no problem with that so I don’t think that blanket argument is valid. But since I am not familiar with endowment $ can someone explain to me how exactly does the university determine where to allocate the donations ? Does allocating to the FB program rank towards the bottom every year ? Or at all ? Basing argument off hard numbers which include coaching salaries to endowment intake and compared those to the other 10 peer programs in the MVFC….und is sadly far behind. Again …I would like more insight of how endowment distribution works before going to deep into this. Where I’m going with this is ….can UND pay up for the “right” coaches for the next try ? Quite honestly und is paying Bubba about $200000 more than he deserves so I wont argue that angle . Just wondering for future hires if it’s a possibility? If it isn’t a possibility…..UND football is stuck in the mud. To hire a good candidate to move and live in GF will require more dollars than what the peers are paying. As what we have seen for years now …the high majority or percentage of hires have Und connections. Hasn’t worked. Need new blood. In order to get new blood …the salaries have to be raised significantly to peek interest.

Another question. This hard data Massey rating thing. How many playoff wins did mussman win and how many has bubba won ? * just a little reminder that Mussman teams weren’t eligible * #disaster

Possibly. But they did leave and we are left with bubba. Wow.

15th in FCS could be looked at as 1st or 2nd in D2. While 15 sounds good I think most that follow the FCS ….that won’t cut it. So really I don’t care if und has a Massey rating of 3. Massey ratings do not automatically give a team a championship. Talent …competent coaching staff …etc will get a team to the championship. We have bubba. Bubba can’t do it for so many reasons. We all know it. Assistants know it. It is such a rinse and repeat program. My expectations have been lowered to the point that I now I have hope we can win a road game Should that really be an expectation? This is why it hurts. Bubba has completely drained me from excitement for this program. I mentioned this earlier but all the “kings “ of FCS are up in our neighborhood…..ndsu sdsu Montana Montana st. They are all doing it. Hell even USD is making waves. Und just doing und things. Bubba can’t sell this program and talent goes elsewhere. Recruiting has been mouse quiet for ages . Someone like Kalen could sell and can produce. Und has great facilities. Great campus. Great school. Horrible leadership and direction. If und installed a young and talented staff… they could sell UNd over Ndsu or sdsu. If the recruits are willing to go there they could go here. It’s all in proximity just stuck with a useless coach. And of course money. Money money money. It’s hard for me to believe that a flagship like und can’t pay a football staff in equal to any surrounding college. With Joe leaving …that just broke the camels back for me. The guy is good very good. the only staffer ,imo, that was worth a damn. I was neither here of there with freund, jake or any others. Joe is very capable .. now he’s gone. But good for him and the others escaping this mediocre pit. I am just beyond frustrated

Exactly. Good ol boys club doing what they do best.

Never said that once. In fact quite the opposite. He brought in by far better players than bubba. I also said it was more difficult for him to recruit based on what he had to work with. Also said bubbas best teams were with mussmans recruits. Not sure where you got that from ?

Couple questions before I join your side. You almost have me -For you and your group …what is a requirement for a successful year? -For an upcoming season what should be some expectations . Never mind. Just name an one expectation -Are you and the crew ok with losing every single road game to a rated team every single season? -Does bubba show great leadership? -does bubba show confidence? -when talking hard data …does that include hard stats or just hard Massey ratings? -does it hurt inside when expectations are lowered every year ? -when other people are continuously repeating things are a disaster …is that fake news ?

Baby steps jdub baby steps. Need to start with winning a $@&?! playoff game before the word continuously can be addressed . And no I don’t consider the ridiculous covid year a true legit season. Let’s start with that.

You’re right. I feel much better now with the bubba led direction this program is taking. Glad you changed my mind

Should have never been hired Bubble 22-21 pre und in D2 Kalen 67-3 three champions one runner up in NAIA - young guy with “spark” and connection to the generation Easy call right ?

So I did a little research on both mussman and bubba. Mussman was 31-34 at und. Bubba is 61-50 at und. Mussmans best year was 8-3 while be named coach of the year bubbas best is 9-3 while being named coach of the year. All the rest of the seasons were average to bad for both. I would say bubbas best team was the 2015 seasons. The roster was filled with mussmans recuits. If you look at what both had to start with ….Bubba had much more. Again. Mussman took over day 1 for the D1 era. He worked namely with D2 guys. He had to recruit hard to get some talent here. And as we know it takes football recruits usually more than a couple months to get D1 ready. Bubba has much better facilities. Bubba had the big sky and mvfc to sell recruits to. Much more stable and prestige. FCS was also much stronger back then. So many schools have moved up that we’re competing for top dog. Now there’s a handful of decent teams. To be clear …I’m not advocating that mussman was better than bubba. I’m advocating both were/are horrible head coaches. Bubbas firsr 4 years were a plus but now it’s like und is right back to 2012 but more frustrating because they have resources and knowledge that they didn’t have at the beginning of the D1 era. Bubbas sell to und is light years ahead of what mussman had to work with. Beyond frustrating

Of course Muss was a mess. Which part was ridiculous tho ? He was an extremely bad coach that had to steer UND into d1 with having upgrade to get better recruits, probation period, initial D1 scheduling …etc. complete mess with different circumstances. Bubba has no excuse. He turned it around initially with Muss recruits…well established in D1 at that point. Yet he keeps getting worse as the FCS keeps getting weaker

Very unfortunate. Very unfortunate