Let the countdown begin!

[PCM]

I guess we can't use it, someone is already offended!

Good thing you didn't propose to use a certain Teletubby.

[larsensa]

I guess we can't use it, someone is already offended!

Yeah, the whole FSM group ticks me off. These people that claim to be so open minded and able to reason are as closed minded as they come. Open minded people would be willing to listen to opposing views which they don't. Wouldn't want them to have anything to do with UND.

[kvinbe]

Of the names suggested thus far, I'm casting my vote for "Fighting Norse."

We could keep our traditional school colors and then come up with a profile of a Norseman. I envision something truer to Norse culture than is depicted by the NFL's Minnesota Vikings. The profile would where a helmut and look fearse, but would not have horns (since authentic Viking helmets did not have horns).

We could also have a mascot that we would give the name "Thor." It would be nice to see him skating around the ice in competition with Minnesota's Goldy and Wisconsin's Bucky.

Best of all, the only people who could complain that it could be hostile and abusive most assuredly would not complain that it is hostile and abusive.

I also think it would work well when yelling "Norse" at the end of the national anthem in replacement of "Sioux." Say it a couple of times to yourself. It sounds good.

And, if people didn't want to go with a Norsemen for the logo, there would be all kinds of other possibilities to borrow from Norse mythology.

I'm definitely not in favor of going simply with North Dakota or Dakota. If it turns out that we're going to need to make the change, then I say do it up right. Also, I'd definitely rather not see anything having to do with the weather conditions or agriculture. North Dakota has enough trouble overcoming stereotypes as it is.

I could live with Fighting Calvary or Roughriders, but they wouldn't be my first choice.

[kvinbe]

A few other possibilities are "Sundogs" or "Flames" or "Fire."

Sundogs are a common atmospheric occurence in North Dakota and there are all kinds of possibilities for a logo and a mascot with this name.

"Flames" or "Fire" would be derived from the flame that is commonly depicted over the ND symbol on current UND letterhead and apparel. I recall that this flame is a part of our history and tradition, but I don't know the specifics without doing some research. I'm sure one of you out there knows. We could keep the same colors and simply add a red-orange flame to our jersey. We could also get creative and have the "ND" in combination with a colorful overlapping flame.

[The Sicatoka]

My crack sources tell me that "Sundogs" was first proposed by BRIDGES, hence, immediate elimination from consideration.

I say Teddy Roosevelt was a great man.

[Goon]

My crack sources tell me that "Sundogs" was first proposed by BRIDGES, hence, immediate elimination from consideration.

I say Teddy Roosevelt was a great man.

Nope don't want it either, I like rough riders or Flyers...

[Sundog]

My crack sources tell me that "Sundogs" was first proposed by BRIDGES, hence, immediate elimination from consideration.

I say Teddy Roosevelt was a great man.

Sundogs is taken. Sorry.

As a member of the Sundog community, am I supposed to take great umbrage that non-Sundogs want to use Sundogs as their team name?

[Goon]

Sundogs is taken. Sorry.

As a member of the Sundog community, am I supposed to take great umbrage that non-Sundogs want to use Sundogs as their team name?

What the hell is a sundog? Is that like a Seawolve? Mystical creature? I personally like Fighting Mallards or Running Roosters.

[Sundog]

What the hell is a sundog? Is that like a Seawolve? Mystical creature? I personally like Fighting Mallards or Running Roosters.

It wasn't my first choice for a team name. Everyone refers to them as the "Dogs" because it's tough to cheer for something non-tangible such as a sundog. Most people here have never seen an actual sundog. We have a "dog" mascot.

Ironically, our local Yavapai Indian tribe has named their casino (Bucky's Casino) after a local Rough Rider, Bucky O'Neil. Mean while our community college (Yavapai College) is named the Rough Riders. Maybe the NCAA can come in and tell us who should be offended.

[A.B.T.G.]

UND Fighting Ole, Swen, and Lenas

UND Smelly Lutefisks

UND Lefse Grills

UND Grinders (Red Pepper can sponsor the team)

If it is Fighting Ole, Sven or Lenas or even Lutefisks I am going to protest the NCAA as those names offend my Swedish heritage!!!!!

[Chewey]

When the A.G. indicated that lobbying would be inevitable, what forms of "lobbying" do you think he meant? Ron His Horse is Thunder seemed to indicate that he, at least, did not want a bunch of UND people going around the reservation at all. What's he have to fear, if the support against the name is so strong? One can hardly expect that the lobbying of the chosen sect by the PC campus elites would not be countered by UND actually trying to take the message to the reservation inhabitants that the name and the university are not "racist."