UND Fan Posted November 26, 2006 Posted November 26, 2006 In many recent years (including this year) about this time, UND's swimming teams are ranked 1st or 2nd in the country. Yet, we normally finish 3rd-5th at the end of the season - often a long ways behind the champion. Any idea why we are consistently ranked so high early in the season? Please don't take this question to infer that I am disappointed that we can't win the NCAA title. Our swimming and diving teams do a great job - especially considering our northern, rather remote location! Quote
dakotadan Posted January 9, 2007 Posted January 9, 2007 Swimming & Diving still at it. Men #1 in the nation Women #2 in the nation, only behind by 1 point. It would be nice to hang a banner or 2 before the jump to DI. Quote
Swanholm5 Posted January 16, 2007 Posted January 16, 2007 The rankings from collegeswimming.com are dual meet rankings. Coaches fill out their best dual meet line up under the following entry guidelines: Three athletes may score per individual event. One athlete may score in two (2) individual events and both relays. Select one medley (200 or 400) and one freestyle (200, 400 or 800) relay. Diving: Enter your divers' best six dive score. This system only works if all the coaches in division II fill out the form. All of them do not. Drury, 03, 05, 06 Champs on the men's side, has not filled out the form. Also, the NCAA Championships are an Invite not a dual. Some teams can be better in duals then in invites just based on depth or lack of depth and how fast the number one swimmer or a group of swimmers are. Hope this helps to clarify. Quote
UND Fan Posted January 16, 2007 Author Posted January 16, 2007 The rankings from collegeswimming.com are dual meet rankings. Coaches fill out their best dual meet line up under the following entry guidelines: Three athletes may score per individual event. One athlete may score in two (2) individual events and both relays. Select one medley (200 or 400) and one freestyle (200, 400 or 800) relay. Diving: Enter your divers' best six dive score. This system only works if all the coaches in division II fill out the form. All of them do not. Drury, 03, 05, 06 Champs on the men's side, has not filled out the form. Also, the NCAA Championships are an Invite not a dual. Some teams can be better in duals then in invites just based on depth or lack of depth and how fast the number one swimmer or a group of swimmers are. Hope this helps to clarify. Thanks for the explanation - that makes sense! Quote
star2city Posted January 30, 2007 Posted January 30, 2007 The rankings from collegeswimming.com are dual meet rankings. Coaches fill out their best dual meet line up under the following entry guidelines: Three athletes may score per individual event. One athlete may score in two (2) individual events and both relays. Select one medley (200 or 400) and one freestyle (200, 400 or 800) relay. Diving: Enter your divers' best six dive score. This system only works if all the coaches in division II fill out the form. All of them do not. Drury, 03, 05, 06 Champs on the men's side, has not filled out the form. Also, the NCAA Championships are an Invite not a dual. Some teams can be better in duals then in invites just based on depth or lack of depth and how fast the number one swimmer or a group of swimmers are. Hope this helps to clarify. Some of the posters believe that UND's men's team has a much better chance at a National Championship this year: more number one swimmers in more events. Previous years, UND was probably the top DII dual team, but not the top invite team. College Swimming Message Board Quote
GeauxSioux Posted March 12, 2007 Posted March 12, 2007 Brazilian imports boost North Dakota Ferreria had never been to North Dakota, or even the United States, before he arrived on campus in 2003. "It was pretty scary," said Ferreria. "I didn't think a place could be so cold. People here are really nice and friendly, so it was really good. Since Sampaio became head coach in the 2001-02 season, North Dakota has won 24 individual NCAA titles, more than doubling its previous total of 23 throughout the team's history. The men's squad has finished at least third in the team standings in each of the last five years with a second-place finish in 2002, while the women have placed at least seventh during that time, including fourth place last year. Ferreria knows there is some tough competition ahead, but he is optimistic about his team's chances at the Division II Championships on March 14-17 at the Flickinger Center in Buffalo, N.Y. Good luck to both the men's and women's teams! Quote
SiouxMD Posted March 14, 2007 Posted March 14, 2007 The DII National Swimming/Diving Championships began today...good luck to both the mens and womens teams. GO SIOUX!!! Quote
GeauxSioux Posted March 15, 2007 Posted March 15, 2007 Day one ends in record breaking style After day one the Sioux men are in 2nd place behind Drury and the women are in 9th. Quote
SiouxMD Posted March 15, 2007 Posted March 15, 2007 After 15 events (Men)... 280 Drury University 195 University Of North Dakota 148 Wayne State University 117 University of Missouri Rolla 103 UC San Diego Quote
SiouxMD Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 After 15 events (Men)... 280 Drury University 195 University Of North Dakota 148 Wayne State University 117 University of Missouri Rolla 103 UC San Diego After 17 events (Men)... 280 Drury University 217 University Of North Dakota .... Quote
GeauxSioux Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 After 17 events (Men)... 280 Drury University 217 University Of North Dakota .... How many events are there? Does UND still have a chance to overtake Drury? Quote
SiouxMD Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 How many events are there? Does UND still have a chance to overtake Drury? They (men and women) have completed 4 of 8 sessions. There are 42 total events for men and women to include the preliminary events. The UND men finished last year in third place with 402 points. I would say we are slightly ahead of last years pace but I don't know if Drury can be beat. I suppose it depends if our strong events are still to come or have already passed. GO SIOUX!!! Quote
GeauxSioux Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 SiouxMD, thanks for all of the info and the updates. Quote
star2city Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Based on the events remaining and best times, looks like Drury will be almost impossible to catch. http://www.starswimming.org/results/NCAAII/index.htm 1. Drury University 314 2. University Of North Dakota 257 3. Wayne State University 180 4. University of Missouri Rolla 155 Quote
nodakvindy Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 The Sioux men are 3 for 3 in the relays so far, having set new national records in each. That's the sign of a great team! Quote
SiouxMD Posted March 17, 2007 Posted March 17, 2007 After 31 events... Men 1. Drury University 483 2. University Of North Dakota 382 3. Wayne State University 287 4. University of Missouri Rolla 232 5. UC San Diego 204 Drury looks to have a comfortable lead going into the final day of competition...UND looks to be the Runner-Up. Women 1. Drury University 478 2. Truman State University 397 3. UC San Diego 243 4. West Chester University 216 5. University of Indianapolis 192 6. Ouachita Baptist University 169 7. University Of North Dakota 165.5 Quote
SiouxMD Posted March 18, 2007 Posted March 18, 2007 Congratulations to the Men's Swimming and Diving team on their 2nd place finish at Nationals! Congratulations to the Women's Swimming and Diving team on their 5th place finish at Nationals! GO SIOUX! Quote
dakotadan Posted March 18, 2007 Posted March 18, 2007 Considering the dominace our S&D teams have had in the NCC, I am surprised that we have never squeeked out a National Championship. How many times have we been runners-up? Quote
keikla Posted March 19, 2007 Posted March 19, 2007 Considering the dominace our S&D teams have had in the NCC, I am surprised that we have never squeeked out a National Championship. How many times have we been runners-up? I'm not surprised. UND has an awesome S&D team for both men and women, but the conference is relatively weak. Nebraska-Omaha is the only team that can give UND any competition for women. The independent conference (which has now disbanded) had Drury, Truman, and Missouri-Rolla (all of whom are typically in the top 10 at nationals every year) all in the same conference. NCC, on the other hand, has teams like St. Cloud, Moorhead, and Metro, who rarely make an appearance at the national level. Quote
SiouxMD Posted March 19, 2007 Posted March 19, 2007 UND men are second - GF Herald The Sioux also placed second last year. www.fightingsioux.com GRAND FORKS, N.D.-- The University of North Dakota swimming and diving team finished the 2005-06 season with the men in third place with 402 points and the women in fourth place with 304 points at the NCAA Division II Championships held in Indianapolis, Indiana. Fact checker must be broken. Quote
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