Prospective Recruits

[Sioux90]

40 minutes ago, Fratt Mattin said:

I’m no expert, but my uneducated opinion is that his chances are slim. The NHL doesn’t like sub-6 foot defensemen at all. Stretcher has made it work, but his physicality and compete were both a clear level above Livanavage’s.

No hate to Jake. I think he’s a great player and would love to have him back. Just my amateur analysis and I’d love it if he proved me wrong

Stecher had that special spark to his game from day one. Liver is an exceptionally well rounded player. If he doesn’t come back, he’ll regret it later on. 

[tnt]

Just now, Sioux90 said:

Stecher had that special spark to his game from day one. Liver is an exceptionally well rounded player. If he doesn’t come back, he’ll regret it later on. 

It would be nice at least if a National Championship in hand guides decisions.

[stoneySIOUX]

2 hours ago, Sioux90 said:

Is it totally possible that both of them choose to stay for Senior years?

Absolutely. But, the last time I was told about who's leaving, these two were in the "highly likely" category.

[stoneySIOUX]

3 hours ago, burd said:

Are they permitted to have agents while still classified as eligible?   In other words, is there usually a fairly lengthy negotiating period before they decide?

Can't have an "agent" but as others have said, a family advisor, everyone has one.

[stoneySIOUX]

2 hours ago, hockeytherapy13 said:

I'm a dummy. Carry on haha

Although I still am bummed about Jubenvil. I'm a fan of his simple defensive style. Boring but very solid. 

Juby is a very good hockey player and would be a Top 4 in most and Top 2 pairing at many, many schools. It comes down to playing time and we're LOADED at D. Also, we have some studs confirmed and a couple unconfirmed studs in our pipeline. Just the nature of the beast.

[stoneySIOUX]

2 hours ago, Sioux90 said:

Stecher had that special spark to his game from day one. Liver is an exceptionally well rounded player. If he doesn’t come back, he’ll regret it later on. 

Those two statements don't seem to jibe. I happen to think Liver could absolutely fit into the pro game. Elite offensive ability in skating and vision, good shot, great awareness, and this season, he's truly become a defensive threat in terms of shutting players down. I think he's an NHL guy after a stint in the AHL. Substantial career? Maybe not. Kid certainly has his role. 

As far as regret goes, this gets said a lot around here about player regretting things. Hindsight is always 20/20. Even studs like Sandy say they should have stayed. With that said, should they? If they get a chance to play in the NHL right out of college, achieving their dream, who are we to say they should have regret? Get paid to play pro hockey in pro arenas in pro towns? Sign me up.

[Fratt Mattin]

20 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

Those two statements don't seem to jibe. I happen to think Liver could absolutely fit into the pro game. Elite offensive ability in skating and vision, good shot, great awareness, and this season, he's truly become a defensive threat in terms of shutting players down. I think he's an NHL guy after a stint in the AHL. Substantial career? Maybe not. Kid certainly has his role. 

As far as regret goes, this gets said a lot around here about player regretting things. Hindsight is always 20/20. Even studs like Sandy say they should have stayed. With that said, should they? If they get a chance to play in the NHL right out of college, achieving their dream, who are we to say they should have regret? Get paid to play pro hockey in pro arenas in pro towns? Sign me up.

I think when people say “regret” they generally mean that another year at UND is probably better than any pro option short of playing full time in the NHL. So, when a guy leaves early just to be a full time AHLer or lower, it does make you wonder if they wouldn’t have been better off sticking around here. This is an even more valid argument now that guys can get paid to play here

[stoneySIOUX]

8 minutes ago, Fratt Mattin said:

I think when people say “regret” they generally mean that another year at UND is probably better than any pro option short of playing full time in the NHL. So, when a guy leaves early just to be a full time AHLer or lower, it does make you wonder if they wouldn’t have been better off sticking around here. This is an even more valid argument now that guys can get paid to play here

Well, of course WE think that staying at UND is better than AHL, but maybe it's not for the player. Hindsight is always 20/20 on this. Certainly not an invalid opinion, but it's literally a dream job for these kids, to play professional hockey. Feels unfair to say they will regret it. Not a big deal at all. The whole conversation feels gross to me as sometimes, not saying in this particular instance, that line about players "regretting" their move comes from a place of hostility towards their personal choice. 

[hockeytherapy13]

1 hour ago, Fratt Mattin said:

I think when people say “regret” they generally mean that another year at UND is probably better than any pro option short of playing full time in the NHL. So, when a guy leaves early just to be a full time AHLer or lower, it does make you wonder if they wouldn’t have been better off sticking around here. This is an even more valid argument now that guys can get paid to play here

Calling Tyson Jost

[Sioux90]

2 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said:

Those two statements don't seem to jibe. I happen to think Liver could absolutely fit into the pro game. Elite offensive ability in skating and vision, good shot, great awareness, and this season, he's truly become a defensive threat in terms of shutting players down. I think he's an NHL guy after a stint in the AHL. Substantial career? Maybe not. Kid certainly has his role. 

As far as regret goes, this gets said a lot around here about player regretting things. Hindsight is always 20/20. Even studs like Sandy say they should have stayed. With that said, should they? If they get a chance to play in the NHL right out of college, achieving their dream, who are we to say they should have regret? Get paid to play pro hockey in pro arenas in pro towns? Sign me up.

Disagree.