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There’s been a lot of talk about how down the Summit is this year and I don’t think it’s necessarily wrong but just wanted to take a look so this chart is based off KenPom. Only one year since being in the league have we been “above average”.image.png.675f7ae8d071f139c559b0a26d5358fe.png

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42 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said:

There’s been a lot of talk about how down the Summit is this year and I don’t think it’s necessarily wrong but just wanted to take a look so this chart is based off KenPom. Only one year since being in the league have we been “above average”.image.png.675f7ae8d071f139c559b0a26d5358fe.png

Thanks for the graph! All I got to say….

OUCH! 

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3 hours ago, sioux24/7 said:

There’s been a lot of talk about how down the Summit is this year and I don’t think it’s necessarily wrong but just wanted to take a look so this chart is based off KenPom. Only one year since being in the league have we been “above average”.image.png.675f7ae8d071f139c559b0a26d5358fe.png

Crazy that even though we are currently in the top 3 of Summit League in 2026 that we can be that far below the top 3 average.  Or is the graph not based on conference standings and purely based on KenPom...

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3 minutes ago, F'nHawks said:

Crazy that even though we are currently in the top 3 of Summit League in 2026 that we can be that far below the top 3 average.  Or is the graph not based on conference standings and purely based on KenPom...

Purely KenPom. So big hole from the non-con.

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I was looking for relatively impressive non-conference wins for Summit teams, and they're pretty few and far between. Denver actually has by far the best win, at #89 Colorado St. They have also beaten #149 Montana St. and won at #188 Northern Colorado. 

The next best after Denver's win at CSU? Believe it or not, UND with its win over #123 Winthrop.

NDSU has wins over #136 Southern Illinois, #151 Montana and #156 Drake.

St. Thomas doesn't really have any particularly good non-conference wins, with their best being over #188 Northern Colorado and #192 Portland.

Omaha won at #153 Portland St.

ORU has wins over #149 Montana St. and #165 Kennesaw St.

USD and SDSU haven't beaten any non-conference opponents ranked any higher than the low 200s.

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I do wonder if we flip the results in some of the UC Riverside, CSUN, Montana and WIU games, where we would be in KenPom. Regardless, in a 1 bid league all that really matters is the SLT in March. 

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2 hours ago, UND92,96 said:

I was looking for relatively impressive non-conference wins for Summit teams, and they're pretty few and far between. Denver actually has by far the best win, at #89 Colorado St. They have also beaten #149 Montana St. and won at #188 Northern Colorado. 

The next best after Denver's win at CSU? Believe it or not, UND with its win over #123 Winthrop.

NDSU has wins over #136 Southern Illinois, #151 Montana and #156 Drake.

St. Thomas doesn't really have any particularly good non-conference wins, with their best being over #188 Northern Colorado and #192 Portland.

Omaha won at #153 Portland St.

ORU has wins over #149 Montana St. and #165 Kennesaw St.

USD and SDSU haven't beaten any non-conference opponents ranked any higher than the low 200s.

don't wanna pat myself on the back but i single handedly was the 6th man in the big winthrop win.....

wilson still has zero points.

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I could be wrong on this, but I believe the rule is that a student-athlete can get a 5th year of eligibility if he played in less than 30% of a team's games in any one of his four years. In his one year at Iowa State, Eli King played in 9 out of the Cyclones' 33 games, or just over 27%, which would seem to mean he still has one more year if he chooses to use it. That's not to say that he'd necessarily choose to stay at UND for a hypothetical 5th year if serious money is offered elsewhere, but it would be great for him if the 31 minutes he played at Iowa State didn't end up costing him a year of eligibility. And obviously it would be huge for UND to potentially have him for another year.

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20 minutes ago, UND92,96 said:

I could be wrong on this, but I believe the rule is that a student-athlete can get a 5th year of eligibility if he played in less than 30% of a team's games in any one of his four years. In his one year at Iowa State, Eli King played in 9 out of the Cyclones' 33 games, or just over 27%, which would seem to mean he still has one more year if he chooses to use it. That's not to say that he'd necessarily choose to stay at UND for a hypothetical 5th year if serious money is offered elsewhere, but it would be great for him if the 31 minutes he played at Iowa State didn't end up costing him a year of eligibility. And obviously it would be huge for UND to potentially have him for another year.

lfg!

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27 minutes ago, UND92,96 said:

I could be wrong on this, but I believe the rule is that a student-athlete can get a 5th year of eligibility if he played in less than 30% of a team's games in any one of his four years. In his one year at Iowa State, Eli King played in 9 out of the Cyclones' 33 games, or just over 27%, which would seem to mean he still has one more year if he chooses to use it. That's not to say that he'd necessarily choose to stay at UND for a hypothetical 5th year if serious money is offered elsewhere, but it would be great for him if the 31 minutes he played at Iowa State didn't end up costing him a year of eligibility. And obviously it would be huge for UND to potentially have him for another year.

I’ve never heard of this 30% rule. I’m pretty sure he’d have to get a medical redshirt to get another year 

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8 minutes ago, GoodGood said:

I’ve never heard of this 30% rule. I’m pretty sure he’d have to get a medical redshirt to get another year 

As I said, I could be wrong. But while this is far from official, I found this:

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AI Overview
 
 
 
In NCAA Division I basketball, a student-athlete can play in a maximum of 
four games(or up to 30% of the season, whichever is greater, though four is the standard benchmark for redshirting) without losing a full year of eligibility. This rule applies to regular-season contests, allowing players to retain a "redshirt" season. 
Key details on eligibility:
  • Redshirt Rule: Athletes must not compete in more than four games to utilize a redshirt year.
  • Injury Exceptions: If an athlete suffers a season-ending injury, they may be eligible for a medical redshirt (or "medical hardship waiver") if they played in fewer than 30% of games and before the midway point of the season.
  • Timing: The competition must occur within the designated "five-year clock" to use four seasons of eligibility.
  • Conference Variations: Rules may slightly vary between NCAA Divisions I, II, and III. 
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25 minutes ago, UND92,96 said:

As I said, I could be wrong. But while this is far from official, I found this:

This is what I found so I’m not sure. I’m sure someone will sue the NCAA and he’ll get another year regardless IMG_6509.thumb.jpeg.93b39303c7c3cc2b0b02ba5eff375259.jpeg

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