RhettRingers Posted Monday at 03:52 PM Posted Monday at 03:52 PM The risk/reward for him playing in the NCHC versus playing in the B1G. He'll put up solid numbers in the B1G next year. Similar style of play to Major Junior. NCHC is a meat grinder every weekend. 1 Quote
beastandco Posted Monday at 03:53 PM Posted Monday at 03:53 PM 3 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: The coaching change and having one assistant position unfilled does add some uncertainty to the mix. Which may give some prospects pause to come here. Does Malone’s CHL team have any uncommitted forwards that would be good gets for us? That could be something to watch 1 Quote
RhettRingers Posted Monday at 03:54 PM Posted Monday at 03:54 PM Just now, beastandco said: Does Malone’s CHL team have any uncommitted forwards that would be good gets for us? That could be something to watch It's Smaby. I said it last week. 1 Quote
RhettRingers Posted Monday at 03:56 PM Posted Monday at 03:56 PM 3 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: McKenna always sounded like a stretch but a bit further down the road Landon DuPont might be attainable. DuPont is going wherever he feels like can prepare him for the next level. Won't need an open check book for him. 1 Quote
nascar99 Posted Monday at 03:57 PM Posted Monday at 03:57 PM 2 minutes ago, beastandco said: Does Malone’s CHL team have any uncommitted forwards that would be good gets for us? That could be something to watch Brooks Rogowski (2008). Posted it in the recruiting thread. But he'll have significant interest from Michigan, Michigan State, and probably Notre Dame, as he's a Michigander who tore it up with Detroit Catholic Central in Michigan HS Hockey before going to the O. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted Monday at 04:00 PM Posted Monday at 04:00 PM 1 minute ago, nascar99 said: Brooks Rogowski (2008). Posted it in the recruiting thread. But he'll have significant interest from Michigan, Michigan State, and probably Notre Dame, as he's a Michigander who tore it up with Detroit Catholic Central in Michigan HS Hockey before going to the O. So we don't try? Cripes, when did we get so skittish about which prospects we go after. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Quote
beastandco Posted Monday at 04:00 PM Posted Monday at 04:00 PM 3 minutes ago, RhettRingers said: DuPont is going wherever he feels like can prepare him for the next level. Won't need an open check book for him. DuPont is the same age as McKamey. If Zellers and others turn out to be good players. I could see how UND would be intriguing for him if he came as a D-1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted Monday at 04:02 PM Posted Monday at 04:02 PM 9 minutes ago, RhettRingers said: It's Smaby. I said it last week. It's a curiousity that Smaby's Waterloo (USHL) and Malone's Oshawa (OHL) are each in league finals. Between that and Bryn Chyzyk's resume as a USHL GM, and CSC and Trupp coaching with Muskegon in the USHL finals, the next generation is ready to take the reins. 3 Quote
RhettRingers Posted Monday at 04:02 PM Posted Monday at 04:02 PM 1 minute ago, beastandco said: DuPont is the same age as McKamey. If Zellers and others turn out to be good players. I could see how UND would be intriguing for him if he came as a D-1 Correct both 09s Quote
nascar99 Posted Monday at 04:07 PM Posted Monday at 04:07 PM 5 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: So we don't try? Cripes, when did we get so skittish about which prospects we go after. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Of course Chyzyk/Jackson need to try. But because NCAA Hockey has historically been the most regional thing ever, kids tend to commit to places closest to home that they have cultural familiarity to. Like it or not, the odds of North Dakota getting many kids from east of Lake Michigan aren't super high. 2 Quote
.357 Posted Monday at 04:09 PM Posted Monday at 04:09 PM 21 minutes ago, RhettRingers said: We very much had interest in McKenna, especially with him being a Western Canadian. Problem is who his advisors are. Yes. My point is why any other high-profile CHLers aren't coming in according to you. Go all out for McKenna, & if that doesn't pan out, don't even pursue guys like Reschny or others. Don't understand the logic of only going after one high-end CHL guy & not others. Quote
90siouxfan Posted Monday at 04:09 PM Posted Monday at 04:09 PM 19 minutes ago, RhettRingers said: We very much had interest in McKenna, especially with him being a Western Canadian. Problem is who his advisors are. Is the next outside the box move having a NIL arrangement with advisors? 1 Quote
RhettRingers Posted Monday at 04:11 PM Posted Monday at 04:11 PM Just now, .357 said: Yes. My point is why any other high-profile CHLers aren't coming in according to you. Go all out for McKenna, & if that doesn't pan out, don't even pursue guys like Reschny or others. Don't understand the logic of only going after one high-end CHL guy & not others. Guys like Reschny are in UND's backyard (Saskatchewan); will have a lot to complain about if he ends up going to another school. Yes, we are after all of these guys, but so is everyone else. Quote
RhettRingers Posted Monday at 04:11 PM Posted Monday at 04:11 PM 1 minute ago, 90siouxfan said: Is the next outside the box move having a NIL arrangement with advisors? Ask Michigan about that... Quote
beastandco Posted Monday at 04:19 PM Posted Monday at 04:19 PM 8 minutes ago, nascar99 said: Of course Chyzyk/Jackson need to try. But because NCAA Hockey has historically been the most regional thing ever, kids tend to commit to places closest to home that they have cultural familiarity to. Like it or not, the odds of North Dakota getting many kids from east of Lake Michigan aren't super high. I would argue UND (Grand Forks) is regionally positioned as well, if not better, than any school. UND is super close to Winnipeg and all of the Minnesota kids. That’s not even mentioning Fargo and Grand Forks. Building relationships with teams and coaches in the CHL is very important to UND’s ability to recruit high end talent in the near future 1 Quote
.357 Posted Monday at 04:19 PM Posted Monday at 04:19 PM 1 minute ago, RhettRingers said: Yes, we are after all of these guys, but so is everyone else. So hypothetically if there are 15 high-profile CHL guys who are targeted for the first 3 rounds who will play in the NCAA, you're saying UND won't get any of them? I find that a little odd. Disturbing also. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted Monday at 04:20 PM Posted Monday at 04:20 PM 11 minutes ago, nascar99 said: Of course Chyzyk/Jackson need to try. But because NCAA Hockey has historically been the most regional thing ever, kids tend to commit to places closest to home that they have cultural familiarity to. Like it or not, the odds of North Dakota getting many kids from east of Lake Michigan aren't super high. Shane Pinto on line one for you. Quote
90siouxfan Posted Monday at 04:23 PM Posted Monday at 04:23 PM I find it off putting that some people jump to the conclusion that if the program doesn't get a player that equates to the coaching staff didn't try... 4 Quote
beastandco Posted Monday at 04:24 PM Posted Monday at 04:24 PM 1 minute ago, .357 said: So hypothetically if there are 15 high-profile CHL guys who are targeted for the first 3 rounds who will play in the NCAA, you're saying UND won't get any of them? I find that a little odd. Disturbing also. I find it hard to believe players drafted outside the top 15 look at a BU, Michigan, Michigan State, and Boston College and think “why don’t I just go to UND and play a top 6 role for 2/3 years” Most of these kids are used to being the guy, come be the guy at UND 1 Quote
RhettRingers Posted Monday at 04:24 PM Posted Monday at 04:24 PM I don't think a lot of you understand how many different factors come into play when landing these guys honestly. 2 Quote
nascar99 Posted Monday at 04:28 PM Posted Monday at 04:28 PM 7 minutes ago, beastandco said: I would argue UND (Grand Forks) is regionally positioned as well, if not better, than any school. UND is super close to Winnipeg and all of the Minnesota kids. That’s not even mentioning Fargo and Grand Forks. Building relationships with teams and coaches in the CHL is very important to UND’s ability to recruit high end talent in the near future Agreed, Chyzyk/Jackson need to build recruiting pipelines. Hence why I've brought up needing to go hard after Cole Reschny, not only because of his talent, but also because his head coach is James Patrick. Victoria Royals to North Dakota would be a nice pipeline to establish, especially with Keaton Verhoeff upcoming 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted Monday at 04:28 PM Posted Monday at 04:28 PM 19 minutes ago, nascar99 said: Of course Chyzyk/Jackson need to try. But because NCAA Hockey has historically been the most regional thing ever, kids tend to commit to places closest to home that they have cultural familiarity to. Like it or not, the odds of North Dakota getting many kids from east of Lake Michigan aren't super high. I think NCAA hockey is more national than it used to be. But if Denver or St. Thomas starts landing kids east of Lake Michigan, then you'll have to revise your rule of thumb. 2 Quote
beastandco Posted Monday at 04:28 PM Posted Monday at 04:28 PM 2 minutes ago, RhettRingers said: I don't think a lot of you understand how many different factors come into play when landing these guys honestly. Money, relationships, roles on the team, advisors, and so much more. I cannot imagine the hurdles the Bryn and the staff have to deal with 2 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted Monday at 04:30 PM Posted Monday at 04:30 PM 3 minutes ago, RhettRingers said: I don't think a lot of you understand how many different factors come into play when landing these guys honestly. I think most of us understand it's a complicated process and what looks good to one recruit won't necessarily look good to another. I just want us to be aggressive and show some swagger in recruiting. Look at what Eric Schmidt is doing with FB. His aggressive, take no prisoners attitude toward recruiting is already starting to pay dividends and he hasn't even coached a game yet. Quote
nascar99 Posted Monday at 04:30 PM Posted Monday at 04:30 PM 2 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: I think NCAA hockey is more national than it used to be. But if Denver or St. Thomas starts landing kids east of Lake Michigan, then you'll have to revise your rule of thumb. Carle stole Mazur (Jackson Michigan) away from Michigan State. They don't win the 2022 National Championship without Mazur. Most national championship winning teams need to win at least one recruiting battle that isn't super favorable to begin, so yes, Chyzyk will need to win battles. 1 Quote
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