Transfer Portal - 2025

[EternalOptimist]

8 hours ago, SiouxFan100 said:

Until we made the coaching changes after last year I thought Sather had a lifetime contract. Now anything can happen if the team sucks this year - and I am not optimistic this years team will be successful.

Just curious - given we don't have the NIL of other schools, what would a successful season look like?  

[sioux24/7]

8 minutes ago, EternalOptimist said:

Just curious - given we don't have the NIL of other schools, what would a successful season look like?  

Are we that far behind NIL for our like schools? The Summit League schools? 

[HoopsFan03]

22 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said:

Are we that far behind NIL for our like schools? The Summit League schools? 

Doubtful.

Everyone just wants to blame everything on NIL if their team sucks.

[sioux24/7]

26 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said:

Doubtful.

Everyone just wants to blame everything on NIL if their team sucks.

I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if we are lower in comparison but yeah I don’t think that can be our crutch. We should just drop down to D2 or heck even D3 if we shouldn’t be expected to compete because we don’t have the NIL. 

[UNDDOM]

1 hour ago, EternalOptimist said:

Just curious - given we don't have the NIL of other schools, what would a successful season look like?  

Increased attendance and a top 4 seed at the end of year conference tournament is literally the only thing a mid-major D1 team is playing for. 

[EternalOptimist]

1 hour ago, sioux24/7 said:

Are we that far behind NIL for our like schools? The Summit League schools? 

We are in the bottom tier of the Summit for NIL. 

[EternalOptimist]

1 hour ago, HoopsFan03 said:

Doubtful.

Everyone just wants to blame everything on NIL if their team sucks.

It has to be recognized. It isn't the end all, but it certainly is a factor.  In general, those that can pay more will attract the better talent. 

[HoopsFan03]

11 minutes ago, EternalOptimist said:

It has to be recognized. It isn't the end all, but it certainly is a factor.  In general, those that can pay more will attract the better talent. 

Sure it can be recognized. But NIL isn’t even in the top 10 of current problems with men’s basketball at UND. 

Winning more games also helps attract better talent. Maybe we should try that??

[McBuckets]

NIL only impacts UND, no other small schools are dealing with small NIL budgets. Can keep using it as an excuse or can go do something about it. How often have you seen UND MBB post about NIL fundraising?

Have to go find the players who want to prove themselves rather than make a little more NIL to sit on the bench and not play

[EternalOptimist]

3 minutes ago, McBuckets said:

Have to go find the players who want to prove themselves rather than make a little more NIL to sit on the bench and not play

I believe that's what is happening at UND.  All the ND players that most are complaining about really want to try and prove themselves.  However, when looking for that type of player, you're going to get a few that may not work out.  

NIL affects every school one way or another.  You are correct - it can't be used as a sole excuse for poor performance, but on the other hand, it needs to be addressed as a potential barrier to "success".   It seems hard to accomplish a top 4 seed in the conference every year with bottom of the league NIL.  Can it happen - absolutely.  Should we be rooting for it to happen - absolutely.  Should we expect it though?  

I do wonder why we don't see a lot of MBB NIL fundraising attempts, or even conversations about it from the program.  To me that comes across as a sign that maybe there is some writing on the wall... but who knows.  

I'm hoping this team surprises us a little.  Sounds like 4.5 D1 wins is the current over/under?  

 

[fightingsioux4life]

2 hours ago, EternalOptimist said:

Just curious - given we don't have the NIL of other schools, what would a successful season look like?  

This excuse has been used to justify mediocrity in several of our other programs. It is the attitude that has held us back in so many areas for the past 15 years.

It's time to ditch it.

[UND92,96]

I'm not sure having more NIL money really impacts the caliber of players a low-major program is going to get from the portal all that much. Looking at who Omaha is bringing in, the only one who looks like he might be something is a 5'9" division II transfer who scored 24 ppg last season. Otherwise, their newcomers don't look like anything special.  

[UNDDOM]

10 minutes ago, EternalOptimist said:

I believe that's what is happening at UND.  All the ND players that most are complaining about really want to try and prove themselves.  However, when looking for that type of player, you're going to get a few that may not work out.  

NIL affects every school one way or another.  You are correct - it can't be used as a sole excuse for poor performance, but on the other hand, it needs to be addressed as a potential barrier to "success".   It seems hard to accomplish a top 4 seed in the conference every year with bottom of the league NIL.  Can it happen - absolutely.  Should we be rooting for it to happen - absolutely.  Should we expect it though?  

I do wonder why we don't see a lot of MBB NIL fundraising attempts, or even conversations about it from the program.  To me that comes across as a sign that maybe there is some writing on the wall... but who knows.  

I'm hoping this team surprises us a little.  Sounds like 4.5 D1 wins is the current over/under?  

 

To your point you don't see a lot of public MBB fundraising, their approach seems to be very targeted to a smaller group of donors.  Hell, a buddy of mine who is a larger doner to UND athletics was just asked if he wanted to travel with the team to Hawaii for a Thanksgiving weekend game.  

[EternalOptimist]

16 minutes ago, UND92,96 said:

I'm not sure having more NIL money really impacts the caliber of players a low-major program is going to get from the portal all that much. Looking at who Omaha is bringing in, the only one who looks like he might be something is a 5'9" division II transfer who scored 24 ppg last season. Otherwise, their newcomers don't look like anything special.  

You might be right - but they did get one of our guys (Deng Mayor) that had several starts for us last year, and was in the main rotation.  I believe the rumor was he was given $30K. He may sit the bench, who knows. UND will replace that player in the rotation with either a red-shirt with no playing experience, a true freshman, or a D2 transfer - either way no D1 experience.

[EternalOptimist]

5 minutes ago, UNDDOM said:

To your point you don't see a lot of public MBB fundraising, their approach seems to be very targeted to a smaller group of donors.  Hell, a buddy of mine who is a larger doner to UND athletics was just asked if he wanted to travel with the team to Hawaii for a Thanksgiving weekend game.  

I like the sounds of that.  Hopefully, they are working at it with the bigger donors, that's really where it will make the biggest difference.

[sioux24/7]

38 minutes ago, EternalOptimist said:

You might be right - but they did get one of our guys (Deng Mayor) that had several starts for us last year, and was in the main rotation.  I believe the rumor was he was given $30K. He may sit the bench, who knows. UND will replace that player in the rotation with either a red-shirt with no playing experience, a true freshman, or a D2 transfer - either way no D1 experience.

Deng got $30k? Lmao

[EternalOptimist]

8 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said:

Deng got $30k? Lmao

Yup... crazy I know.

[SIOUXFAN97]

2 hours ago, UNDDOM said:

Increased attendance and a top 4 seed at the end of year conference tournament is literally the only thing a mid-major D1 team is playing for. 

kinda hard to increase attendance when you essentially moved 20% of your audience into the parking lot and hype it as improvements???!!!

[HoopsFan03]

14 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said:

Deng got $30k? Lmao

Don’t know if that number is accurate or not for Deng but here is what I do know.

Every player at Omaha is getting some sort of NIL. Most are getting in the $10k-$15k range. With the top player or two close to the $50k range. 

Not significant enough money to make much of an impact in recruiting.

[UNDDOM]

Any idea who is getting NIL here, I assume King?  

[GoodGood]

9 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

kinda hard to increase attendance when you essentially moved 20% of your audience into the parking lot and hype it as improvements???!!!

Maybe they could have a night where they give away a free pair of binoculars?? 

[McBuckets]

1 hour ago, EternalOptimist said:

You might be right - but they did get one of our guys (Deng Mayor) that had several starts for us last year, and was in the main rotation.  I believe the rumor was he was given $30K. He may sit the bench, who knows. UND will replace that player in the rotation with either a red-shirt with no playing experience, a true freshman, or a D2 transfer - either way no D1 experience.

Garret Anderson played at San Jose St before going D2 so he has D1 experience. 30k for Deng seems high to me but good for him for getting some cash

[EternalOptimist]

1 hour ago, HoopsFan03 said:

Don’t know if that number is accurate or not for Deng but here is what I do know.

Every player at Omaha is getting some sort of NIL. Most are getting in the $10k-$15k range. With the top player or two close to the $50k range. 

Not significant enough money to make much of an impact in recruiting.

This is interesting - and similar to what I am hearing for St Thomas.

Total NIL $ for the UND squad is less than $10K

 

[sioux24/7]

4 minutes ago, EternalOptimist said:

This is interesting - and similar to what I am hearing for St Thomas.

Total NIL $ for the UND squad is less than $10K

 

Not true. 

[EternalOptimist]

12 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said:

Not true. 

It's extremely close