jimdahl Posted January 12, 2004 Posted January 12, 2004 Call me homer, but UND does seem to be in the drivers seat yet again (though we all know how that ended last year). Why wait for the games to be played, I can tell you how it will end: UND 42 UMN 36 UW 34 UMD 33 SCSU 32 AA 26 CC 26 Denver 26 Mankato 17 MTech 8 Q: Wait Jim, are you sure you got that right? CC and Denver in the bottom half? A: The numbers don't lie. It's the year of the Minnesota teams. Q: The Gophers overtaking the Badgers, really? A: Have you been paying attention at all lately? Q: AA is so scrappy, are you sure they won't finish over .500? A: Honestly, I felt like I was searching for extra points to give them. Maybe they'll surprise me. Feel good story of the year. Lots of goals from Jim Dahl. Q: It's not that I don't trust you, Jim, but I'd kind of like to see the numbers for myself A: What-if calculator Q: I heard this thing is full of bugs? A: Nah, I declare it ready for human consumption. I fixed the numerous known bugs last week with two exceptions: it doesn't deal well with trying to load your saved picks in between games of a series (e.g. on Saturday afternoon); it still just gives conference standings, not tournament seedings (i.e. WCHA-specific tournament seeding tiebreakers are not programmed in). Quote
sagard Posted January 12, 2004 Posted January 12, 2004 UND 43 UMD 34 UMN 34 UW 29 SCSU 29 CC 29 Denver 25 AA 24 Mankato 19 MTech 14 UND in a walk. I'm glad my optimistic picks have the Gophers passing both UW and SCSU by a wide margin. My guess is that the race for third will be tighter than my picks show. Here are my pre-season picks: 1. UND - Glorious return to the top. Claims the McNaughton anchor. 2. UM - Fail to capture the "ultimate", settle for another NC. 3. DU - Down again, up again, down, guessing an "up" season. 4. UMD - Scoring questions. 5. CC - Probably the only team in top five that could lose home ice. 6. SCSU - I can hear the whining about Dahl already. 7. MSU - More of their ties turn to losses than wins. 8. UW - I just love putting them down here. 9. MTU - Still better than AA. 10. AA - Three wins. Not really that close, but I think I hit the champ. Quote
jk Posted January 12, 2004 Posted January 12, 2004 UND 43 UMD 35 UMN 35 UW 32 SCSU 31 CC 26 Denver 25 AA 20 Mankato 18 MTech 15 Quote
U2Bad1 Posted January 12, 2004 Posted January 12, 2004 UND 28 43 UMN 28 38 UW 28 34 UMD 28 34 SCSU 28 32 CC 28 28 Denver 28 24 AA 28 23 Mankato 28 13 MTech 28 11 Sorry about the format. This prediction is conservative with the rest of UND's schedule.. and University of Minnesota getting VERY hot. Quote
jimdahl Posted January 12, 2004 Author Posted January 12, 2004 One quick reminder, saving is smart so you can revisit how your picks result in a conference finish as real results come in (your picks for games that have passed are replaced with the actual results). The other nice thing that does is let us create some aggregate statistics, the prediction of the people, if you will. Quote
forecheck Posted January 12, 2004 Posted January 12, 2004 UND 45 UMD 37 UW 36 UMN 35 SCSU 30 CC 25 Denver 24 AA 19 Mankato 16 MTech 13 I'm probably way off about MN, but I just didn't see them sweeping UND, Wisconsin, or Duluth. Quote
WPoS Posted January 12, 2004 Posted January 12, 2004 UND 45 UMN 38 UW 35 UMD 34 SCSU 27 Denver 25 CC 24 Mankato 18 AA 17 MTech 17 For what my opinion is worth around here, here is my current SWAG. I agree UND will handily take the WCHA. The spot of contention will be the #3. WPoS Quote
Siouxhockey03 Posted January 12, 2004 Posted January 12, 2004 UND 41 UMD 36 UMN 36 SCSU 32 UW 32 CC 30 Denver 26 AA 19 MTech 15 Mankato 13 ----------------------------------- I had a lot of splits the rest of the way most of the games. ----------------------------------- For UND I had them getting 3 points at Tech and then split every series but Tech Mankato.....but I expect them to sweep a couple more teams..... Quote
CoteauRinkRat Posted January 12, 2004 Posted January 12, 2004 I think the Gophers are definitely on a roll, but not sure if they are going to climb that high in the standings. Quote
jimdahl Posted January 12, 2004 Author Posted January 12, 2004 I think the Gophers are definitely on a roll, but not sure if they are going to climb that high in the standings. That's what I, personally, find fascinating about sitting down and looking at the actual games remaining and assigning points. If you'd just asked me to come up with a ranking without considering the games, I probably would've had UMN a little lower, CC and AA a little higher. However, when I actually had to assign 4 points per game to one team or another for the remaining games, I was a little surprised by my own prediction. Quote
CoteauRinkRat Posted January 12, 2004 Posted January 12, 2004 I just did my own calculations, and it also suprised me how high Minnesota can/will go up in the standings. Quote
Greyeagle Posted January 12, 2004 Posted January 12, 2004 I just did my own calculations, and it also suprised me how high Minnesota can/will go up in the standings. We're an oustanding team.....on paper. BTW - Thanks Jim. it's a fun tool. Quote
sprig Posted January 13, 2004 Posted January 13, 2004 Suprising is the POI bunch almost to a poster has CC finishing first or second, after getting swept by MN and UAA. I'll have to check out how to get CC to first place. Would guess they can't lose more than a game or two the rest of the way. Quote
DMT Posted January 13, 2004 Posted January 13, 2004 Suprising is the POI bunch almost to a poster has CC finishing first or second, after getting swept by MN and UAA. Alot of them also have UW with 11-15 points. Which is odd, considering UW is leading the WCHA with 21 points. Quote
sprig Posted January 13, 2004 Posted January 13, 2004 Alot of them also have UW with 11-15 points. Which is odd, considering UW is leading the WCHA with 21 points. Didn't notice that; guess they must have used the original site several weeks ago. Quote
Fighting Sioux Fan Posted January 13, 2004 Posted January 13, 2004 UND 28 45 UW 28 35 UMD 28 35 SCSU 28 34 CC 28 30 UMN 28 29 Denver 28 24 AA 28 18 Mankato 28 18 MTech 28 12 Quote
WPoS Posted January 13, 2004 Posted January 13, 2004 Didn't notice that; guess they must have used the original site several weeks ago. um, yah, might want to check the date of the posts, I think alot of them were from EARLY in the summer, the more recent posts have CC a lot lower... WPoS Quote
DMT Posted January 13, 2004 Posted January 13, 2004 um, yah, might want to check the date of the posts, I think alot of them were from EARLY in the summer, the more recent posts have CC a lot lower... WPoS Gotcha. I didn't look at the dates. Quote
sprig Posted January 13, 2004 Posted January 13, 2004 Summer, no, from last January, most from last season. No wonder CC is so high Quote
WPoS Posted January 13, 2004 Posted January 13, 2004 Summer, no, from last January, most from last season. No wonder CC is so high WPoS Quote
UMDDogz Posted January 16, 2004 Posted January 16, 2004 4. UMD - Scoring questions. Well, UMD is second in the country, averaging 4.09 GPG. I think that should answer any questions you may have had. Although...we're still nowehere close to the 5+ GPG averaged by the #1 scoring team...I wonder who that could be?? Quote
sagard Posted January 16, 2004 Posted January 16, 2004 Well, UMD is second in the country, averaging 4.09 GPG. I think that should answer any questions you may have had. Although...we're still nowehere close to the 5+ GPG averaged by the #1 scoring team...I wonder who that could be?? If I were picking now, I'd clearly put UMD second. UMD is getting nice contributions from multiple lines. I'm just really hoping for a Gophers UMD semifinal at the X. It would easily rival the SCSU/Gophers semifinals that were so much fun. Quote
UMDDogz Posted January 16, 2004 Posted January 16, 2004 I am definitely hoping UMD finishes third or second in the WCHA. That way we won't play the Sioux in the first round (not that it was so bad last time!)!! Quote
schmidtdoggydog Posted January 16, 2004 Posted January 16, 2004 I am definitely hoping UMD finishes third or second in the WCHA. That way we won't play the Sioux in the first round (not that it was so bad last time!)!! You must mean the Final Five last year because you cannot possibly be satisfied with their first three games against each other this year! Quote
Fifth Line Posted January 16, 2004 Posted January 16, 2004 I think with the parity that exists in the WCHA this year it is way to early to be confident about anything. Most teams have around 30 points that they can get and for the top teams those will be 30 hard points to defend. I am willing to bet that there are teams thinking that they will be home first round of the playoffs that might be packing their bags for a road trip. Oh by the way, we could be one of them. Having said that I would say that this is the year that you could easily see two teams from the bottom five in the league playing in St Paul in March. This should be one of the most exciting WCHA playoffs in year and depending on end of season play quite possibly a record amount of teams from the WCHA in the NCAA tourney barring automatic bids. Quote
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