BigDrizzle40 Posted October 20, 2003 Posted October 20, 2003 I would have to say I enjoy heckling Sheepard more and think Sheep man is terrible. He seems to always have it out for the sioux and loves to see how many white jerseys he can fit into the home Box!!! Quote
CoteauRinkRat Posted October 20, 2003 Posted October 20, 2003 We need to find those stats from a couple of years ago when the WCHA steered Adam away from officiating the Sioux. I think it was something like over a four year span, in the losses the Sioux had, Adam was the ref in 60 percent of those games. My vote was for Sheppard. Quote
Fedorov Posted October 20, 2003 Posted October 20, 2003 I can't vote. I can't say either one is actually a better ref than someone. I never expected a rookie to come in and compete in his first year. Quote
Fighting Sioux Fan Posted October 20, 2003 Posted October 20, 2003 Does Anderson get a new whistle for every period or does he have a quota for how many times he needs to use it? Quote
Frank Ricard Posted October 20, 2003 Posted October 20, 2003 Imagine Sue fans bitchin about the Ref's, WOW what a surprise Quote
Diggler Posted October 20, 2003 Posted October 20, 2003 Imagine a dope that registers on a message board to post one single message to try to look cool. WOW, what a suprise. Quote
dagies Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 Imagine Sue fans bitchin about the Ref's, WOW what a surprise Here's a good one, Frank. Why don't you prove how your fans are so much better about this than Sioux fans. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight..... Quote
MinnesotaNorthStar Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 Imagine Sue fans bitchin about the Ref's, WOW what a surprise Name one team who's fans DON'T bitch about the refs...it as much a part of hockey as the puck. Are you a closet Anchorage fan? JBSU? Wisco? Kato? Hockey East? Quote
redwing77 Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 Folks, if you remember my only prediction of Saturday's game: It was that Anderson would get worse. So, I vote for Anderson. That was by far the worst reffing job I've ever seen in my years watching Sioux hockey (1995-96, 1998-2000, 2002-Present). There were polls out there and, apparently, every conference has a ref or four that is considered poor. Well, it bothers me that these people are defended after they do a real bad job. Is there a learning curve for a new ref? I admit it would be very steep if there was. However, is there accountability for a ref who does a poor job? It doesn't appear to be so. Frank: Ummmm buddy, Let's set the wayback machine to last season, kay? Let's show Minnesota playing Mankato. Anderson was the ref. 16 penalties in 2 periods. Don't you think something was up with that? Minnesota and Mankato fans were complaining about that. Especially Minnesota, as I believe Mankato won the game. Quote
sioux fan in phoenix Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 I didn't vote, I think all WCHA refs range from awful to barely competent. If I were a player in this league, I'd be thinking about jumping ship to the major juniors... Quote
redwing77 Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 SFiP- I think you meant "... no reservations about..." I think the ref who ref'd the Wisconsin vs UND series last season was pretty good. Quote
sioux fan in phoenix Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 SFiP- I think you meant "... no reservations about..."Â What in the hell are you talking about? Quote
yeahsiouxsioux Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 This is Todd Anderson, not Robin Anderson, right?? Quote
MinnesotaNorthStar Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 This is Todd Anderson, not Robin Anderson, right?? yesm, that is correct. Quote
tboneund Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 I had to go with Anderson because of inconsistent penalties...at least Sheppard consistently screws UND. Quote
WPoS Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 WOW, I thought the Gophers were the only teams these bozo-types hosed... I have said it MANY times to MANY people. All I ask of a ref is consistancy. At least if they are consistant, I know if I need to bring a 'roid cushion or not to games... IMO all the college level refs need to get a better job. We need to bring in refs and PAY them to do a decent job. Not this $50 a game crap I think they run now. As for bad reffing, some may remmember, some may not, some prolly don't care, but Greg Sheppard would only call AGAINST the Gophers, he let linesmen and the "other" ref call against Minn's opponents....now that is bad. All because he didn't want to be called "homer" in his calls...and yes we got hosed every game he ref'd. Bad ref of note from years past: MEDO! WPoS Quote
dwschmid Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 I didn't vote, I think all WCHA refs range from awful to barely competent. If I were a player in this league, I'd be thinking about jumping ship to the major juniors... They're not any better in the WHL, that's for damn sure! Quote
dwschmid Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 As for bad reffing, some may remmember, some may not, some prolly don't care, but Greg Sheppard would only call AGAINST the Gophers, he let linesmen and the "other" ref call against Minn's opponents....now that is bad. All because he didn't want to be called "homer" in his calls...and yes we got hosed every game he ref'd. WPoS Yeah, and God forbid after his mother was murdered he showed up in the Star-Trib wearing a DU t-shirt...what the hell was he thinking...that just proved even more that he hated the Gophers...right... Quote
Ghost of Smith Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 Is Schmidt no longer in the WCHA? He gets my lifetime achievement award for being the worst ever. Quote
schmidtdoggydog Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 Is Schmidt no longer in the WCHA? He gets my lifetime achievement award for being the worst ever. Both Mike Schmitt and Randy Schmidt are both still reffing in the WCHA, I believe. RS did the UND/Duluth game. MS was actually at REA for the UND/BC series. However, I don't know if he was just in town watching good hockey or watching over Todd Anderson. Personally, I think MS does a pretty good job reffing. I think he, along with Campion, are two of the better refs in the league. I would much rather see either of those two on the ice than Adam, Sheppard or Todd Anderson. Quote
redwing77 Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 Campion did a really good job. I would have to say he's the best in the WCHA. Every penalty he called when he did the UW vs UND game, upon replay was indeed a penalty. Maybe he had a good game for those two games, but it seemed to be tha he had good eyes and he made good decisions. Mike Schmitt, well, He makes the list of good refs because of everyone else is so poor. Isn't there also Craig Schmidt too? I know there is one by that name who is a hockey ref. He gets his hair cut by my next door neighbor. I also know that he has ties to UND. As for Greg Shepherd, I reserve comment on his personal reffing abilities because I've never personally watched one of his games to my knowledge. As to his leadership, being the head ref of the WCHA, Iwould have replaced him a long time ago. Part of management is standing up for the quality of your underlings. That much he does and does vehemently. However, a large part of his job in that position is to ensure that the refs are striving to improve and work themselves into a better and more professional caliber officiating performnce. So far, he's failed in this job. Maybe money has a part in it, but it doesn't have everything to do with it. Paul Kariya took a 2 mil a year pay cut to sign with the Avs. North Dakota schools test higher in standardized tests and ACT/SAT scores on average than all but 4 states in the nation yet boast the 49th best in pay scale for teachers. Money isn't everything. One note about Campion, if he evolves to be too good of a ref, I'm sure he'll go to the AHL or NHL and leave the conference without a decent ref. My two cents Quote
Fedorov Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 I remember when everyone thought Adam was the worst ref. We have two guys in the poll that are much worse. My guess is that Adam has been spending some quality time with his goat. Quote
redwing77 Posted October 22, 2003 Posted October 22, 2003 I'm watching the Wild game currently. I REALLY wish we could lure Kerry Frasier to the WCHA. What a ref. Quote
Goon Posted October 22, 2003 Posted October 22, 2003 Friday's game had to be some of the worst reffing I have ever seen. Anderson was calling the game tight for UND and then let the Eagles do what ever they wanted. I think it is wrong if your going to call a game tight fine but do it both ways. It was almost like Anderson was trying to protect the B.C. Eagles number one ranking making sure of the split... Quote
Diggler Posted October 22, 2003 Posted October 22, 2003 You have to credit Adam though. Doing such a horrible job that he obtained his very own goat, does take some hard work. Robin Anderson also had his own goat, maybe he'll give it to new Anderson. Quote
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