The Sicatoka Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Strange, ... when Ms. Annis (I believe the daughter of a long-time protester) thought the tribe was on her side it was "respect the tribe!" Now that Spirit Lake supports UND and Standing Rock may soon show the same, suddenly, she throws them under the bus. She's now claiming that it's not the tribal government or the whole of tribal members that matter, but only the tribal students on campus whose opinion matters. "It critically affects American Indian students on campus. And now we've just been completely sort of like I said taken out of the equation and placed in the hands of tribal governments, where and no offense to tribal governments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 All this begs the question: How many American Indian students at UND see the issue the same way that Annis does? Once again, I'll bet it's not as great as we've been led to believe. (see: Spirit Lake referendum results) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoHawks! Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 All this begs the question: How many American Indian students at UND see the issue the same way that Annis does? Once again, I'll bet it's not as great as we've been led to believe. (see: Spirit Lake referendum results) Absolutely. Once again, it is the vocal minority, and a few radicals who need their "cause" on campus causing all the trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 Is it amazing to anyone else that the number of people who are supposed to decide this issue keeps getting smaller and smaller. When the tribal councils passed resolutions against the nickname, they were thrown in our faces as "proof" that all Sioux people were against UND's use of Fighting Sioux. Now that the people of the reservations show that they don't agree, they're thrown under the bus. The only opinions that count are those of a few AI students at UND. Let's roll back to a 2006 Charles Kupchella interview with USCHO.com: "Many of them say they Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 I'm still missing Dr. Charles E. Kupchella: USCHO: One final question: When you accepted the job to be president of UND back in 1999, did you ever think that you would spend as much time as you have on this issue? Kupchella: There Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Is it amazing to anyone else that the number of people who are supposed to decide this issue keeps getting smaller and smaller. I just happened to drive by the Memorial Union this morning and holy cow that was a small number protesters. I don't think they topped 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2Bad1 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 The protestors are losing so they are starting to change their argument and as a result they are losing the moral high ground from an outsiders point of view (of course I never thought they had it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsowe Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 In the Star tribune in the option section some guy was talking about native names and said that TCF bank Stadium was an example of honoring native americans!! You can't honor someone simply by claiming you are honoring them. That has been the core issue of stereotypes and mascots since the beginning of organized sports teams. If a person wants to see how to truly honor a people, stroll through the Shakopee Mdewakanton Sioux Community-funded mall at the end of the new TCF Bank Stadium at the University of Minnesota. Each of the tribal nations in Minnesota has its own elegant statue that informs, celebrates and enhances. Like native people themselves, the mall is subtle, yet cannot be ignored, powerful in an understated way. This is how to honor people. Contrast this to a man performing at halftime a mash-up of "Flashdance" and every spaghetti western ever made or a group of people masquerading in costumes and face paint. As a U of M alum, a tribal member and football fan, I wanted to share my perspective. Honor is paid when it is genuine, when it informs and enhances. If other schools playing football at the University of Minnesota are uncertain as to whether their mascot honors native people, take the TCF Stadium test. If you have to remind people that you are honoring them, chances are you're not. TIMOTHY A. BROWN, ST. PAUL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/135417/ The Herald counted about 75 rally participants, including organizers and speakers. At a panel discussion that followed, there were seven Indian students in attendance. UND has a student population that includes more than 400 Indians, the largest among the state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/135417/ Let's see, 7 of 400 is ... less than 2%. So, if Ms. Annis is correct, and it's all about the AI students on campus ... where were they? She'll say they were too intimidated to come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 She'll say they were too intimidated to come out. Then I'd say she's full of ****! There is a reason there are so few UND NA students that attend these rallies/protests...they don't agree with that view/stance she's promoting. Plain and simple!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlsiouxfan Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I'm still missing Dr. Charles E. Kupchella: You cannot be serious. A few more years with that worthless SOB as president would've ran UND into the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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