MafiaMan Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Scott Stevens was a defensive defensemen and his game was spectacular. Yea, if you think 'spectacular' should define a cheap-shot. Scott Stevens was a great defenseman, but the number of hits where he left his feet to hammer someone, got his elbow or forearm right under someone's chin, or went with the shoulder to the mouth hit...well, it speaks for itself. Scott Stevens Top Ten Hits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxmama Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Sure hope to see Prp wearing #85 for Phoenix this year. Love to see those UND guys out on the ice! We will sure miss him out on "our ice" this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stafford_rules Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Yea, if you think 'spectacular' should define a cheap-shot. Scott Stevens was a great defenseman, but the number of hits where he left his feet to hammer someone, got his elbow or forearm right under someone's chin, or went with the shoulder to the mouth hit...well, it speaks for itself. Scott Stevens Top Ten Hits what a cheap ass.... but its very entertaining to watch the hits.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimos Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Yea, if you think 'spectacular' should define a cheap-shot. Scott Stevens was a great defenseman, but the number of hits where he left his feet to hammer someone, got his elbow or forearm right under someone's chin, or went with the shoulder to the mouth hit...well, it speaks for itself. Scott Stevens Top Ten Hits My mistake, Stevens was worthless, he probably couldn't even have played at UND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 My mistake, Stevens was worthless, he probably couldn't even have played at UND. Not an argument that is worthwhile with some on this board. btw- I agree with you Eskimos. I liked Scott Stevens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux_Hab-it Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Not an argument that is worthwhile with some on this board. btw- I agree with you Eskimos. I liked Scott Stevens I was not a Scott Stevens fan but I never considered any of his checks to be illegal or cheap. Others like Phaneuf have taken over where he left off so if you cut across ice at the blueline with your head down you had better be ready for impact. For those who do like it there is always croquet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 I was not a Scott Stevens fan but I never considered any of his checks to be illegal or cheap. Others like Phaneuf have taken over where he left off so if you cut across ice at the blueline with your head down you had better be ready for impact. For those who do like it there is always croquet Likewise, I find myself a Scott Stevens fan who believes that there is NO WAY a defensive defenseman can go through an entire career and not commit a single dangerous check (aka cheap shot). I'm sure some of those checks were cheap. I am also sure that most of those "cheap" checks were unintentionally so. In any case, I'd rather root for a player like Scott Stevens than a player like Scott Parker or Donald Brashear or Tie Domi. At least Stevens was of value to his team in ways other than just going out there and trying to kill someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skateshattrick Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 I was not a Scott Stevens fan but I never considered any of his checks to be illegal or cheap. Others like Phaneuf have taken over where he left off so if you cut across ice at the blueline with your head down you had better be ready for impact. For those who do like it there is always croquet If you don't think some of the hits were cheap, look at the video again. The hit on Paul Kariya was a classic cheapshot. Kariya had already gotten rid of the pick a good 2-3 seconds before and was skating up ice. The hit was not only interference, but no one expects to get blown up like that when they don't have the puck. I agree that if you have the puck and are skating with your head down, you can expect to get rocked, but that is the classic cheapshot. It is like a sucker punch. Also, look at the hit on Lindros--as is typical of many of Stevens' hits, his elbows and/or hands are always high. If he uses his shoulder, that's legal, but not your elbow. Stevens was a great player, and often made very clean, hard checks, but he also had many cheap shots as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 If you don't think some of the hits were cheap, look at the video again. The hit on Paul Kariya was a classic cheapshot. Kariya had already gotten rid of the pick a good 2-3 seconds before and was skating up ice. The hit was not only interference, but no one expects to get blown up like that when they don't have the puck. I agree that if you have the puck and are skating with your head down, you can expect to get rocked, but that is the classic cheapshot. It is like a sucker punch. Also, look at the hit on Lindros--as is typical of many of Stevens' hits, his elbows and/or hands are always high. If he uses his shoulder, that's legal, but not your elbow. Stevens was a great player, and often made very clean, hard checks, but he also had many cheap shots as well. The Kariya hit was a bit shaky. But pardon my ignorance but I don't think the Lindros hit was cheap. Lindros had the puck, had his head down, and entered the zone. Stevens' arm did come up but the point of impact was the side of his shoulder (like wear a patch would be on the sleeve of a short sleeve shirt). With the exception of the Kariya hit, all of those were clean IMO. And even if you count the Kariya, Lindros, and maybe the Kozlov hit as cheap, 3 hits don't make a cheap player. Stevens' whole career made him an amazing defenseman, not a few hits here and there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxnami Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 The Kariya hit was a bit shaky. But pardon my ignorance but I don't think the Lindros hit was cheap. Lindros had the puck, had his head down, and entered the zone. Stevens' arm did come up but the point of impact was the side of his shoulder (like wear a patch would be on the sleeve of a short sleeve shirt). With the exception of the Kariya hit, all of those were clean IMO. And even if you count the Kariya, Lindros, and maybe the Kozlov hit as cheap, 3 hits don't make a cheap player. Stevens' whole career made him an amazing defenseman, not a few hits here and there. A few cheap hits in a long successful carear makes for a great player not a cheap one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 A few cheap hits in a long successful carear makes for a great player not a cheap one. I think we are in agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Stevens was a headhunter. It's one thing to go after a player skating with his head down(shame on them) but it should be expressly prohibited to make hits to the head which Stevens did quite intentionally(shame on him). He would always come up high with his elbow or forearm. And as someone else pointed out he would hit a player after the puck was long gone. Too bad karma didn't get him sooner than it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Guess I'll keep this question this thread... I see this morning David Hale is still unsigned by the Devils. Can someone please remind me what kind of defense he is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Guess I'll keep this question this thread... I see this morning David Hale is still unsigned by the Devils. Can someone please remind me what kind of defense he is? The kind without a contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamStrait Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 The kind without a contract My god you're clever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 Guess I'll keep this question this thread... I see this morning David Hale is still unsigned by the Devils. Can someone please remind me what kind of defense he is? I have heard from some devils fans he is expected to be resigned and be the #4 or 5 defensemen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I have heard from some devils fans he is expected to be resigned and be the #4 or 5 defensemen... I also heard that the Devils are having some difficulty concerning the salary cap and that may be what's holding things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDFlyer Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 [/i also heard that the Devils are having some difficulty concerning the salary cap and that may be what's holding things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux Traveler Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Brad Bombardir lands with the Wild. http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/15453578.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Brad Bombardir lands with the Wild. http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/15453578.htm he has been with the wild for the last year but this is a different role for him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDintheNHL Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 any new news on Prp? i want him to play this season!!! if he does, then go coyotes!! they need some help....bet he never thought as a kid he'd ever play for the great one :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforeverbaby Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 any new news on Prp? i want him to play this season!!! if he does, then go coyotes!! they need some help....bet he never thought as a kid he'd ever play for the great one :-D I keep looking on the AHL's website but they don't have any rosters up for this year yet. He isn't on the Coyotes roster, so................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stafford_rules Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 he's on Iowa's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 he's on Iowa's prpich is playing with the coyotes in the rookie/prospects tourney in california as of now, he played a few games with iowa last season after UND they start tourney games tomorrow http://www.phoenixcoyotes.com/news/story_details.php?ID=5229 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 1st game matt jones with 2 assists including one to help with the ot game winner in rookie tourney opener with phoenix. he is also the team captain for phx in this tourney. no mention of prpich in this game. http://www.phoenixcoyotes.com/news/story_details.php?ID=5266 2nd game joned with another assist and prpich shows up in the 2nd period box score with a 5 minutes for fighting!! at a boy prp http://www.phoenixcoyotes.com/news/story_details.php?ID=5267 coyotes off til monday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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