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what? Schmaltz had just as many pts as Dvorak....while barely getting pp time. Which was odd because he wad arguably the second best pp player on the team, that's on the coach (who clearly sucked at coaching this level). again you are completely ignoring the point were trying to make, that und had much greater (older) depth. what did marner do doing the wjc? He definitely didn't light the world on fire and he wad getting top pp time.

I agree with you on that point only. They are very deep. We are talking about two completely different leagues. The OHL can have only 2 20 year olds whereas the NCAA has many 20 year old freshman. It's not a great comparison. Again, no one is arguing against the CHL leagues being great development leagues.

you're comparing him to two undrafted players. Anyways I'm done with this pointless argument. I am a fan of both leagues...but still say UND wins 7 or 8 games out of ten games against London. Our D core alone would be way way too much to handle. Shaw would put up good number in that league, and that is not a knock on Shaw. I'm just saying.

I actually think their top line would be one of the best NCAA lines, my some damage was tongue in cheek. in regards to your other post, about their lineup, u had two former NCAA busts.

I don't like the guy, however he probably deserves it after being snubbed from the US World Cup team.

That's what I was trying to do with my first lineup draft, although I did have Jost and Gardner together I guess. I just couldn't find another center. You are definitely right about Olson, he is probably better suited on the wing.

Bingo. I don't doubt their top line wouldn't do some damage in college hockey. Marner, Tkuchuk, Dvorak, and Jones are all top notch studs. They also have a decent tendy and that Finnish Dman. But it's a completely different game up there; the top dogs put up video game numbers due to playing against other teams' lower lines. Most of those lower line guys end up in the CIS. While there is more top end talent in the CHL, the depth is no where near NCAA hockey (and I'm not even going to bring up the age difference again).

u actually made several of my points in one of your previous posts. I say und wins 7 of 10. London and NTDP go 50/50 (maybe 60/40 London only because of marner).

Alright, that's aggressive.

That is the U-17 team...not the U18 team. http://www.usahockeyntdp.com/u18-schedule-results I had a very knowledgeable hockey guy once break it down for me. A top NCAA > CHL > USHL > BCHL (obviously in a matchup together not related to developmental reasons b/c obviously the CHL leagues are the top developmental leagues in total). A top notch BCHL team, most likely, would be an above average team in the USHL (this year's Penticton team probably higher up on that scale). The best USHL team would complete in a WHL/OHL schedule, probably middle of the pack, and would be a good Q team. A great CHL team would be a solid NCAA team (this year's London team would probably be higher up on that scale).

the NTDP would easily compete in all chl leagues. They walk through their ushl schedule. Your post makes it sound as though they are just another ushl team. I'm not a chl hater like many others on this site but I do understand how stacked this years NTDP was (and has been for the past few years).

you're right they are deeper than I had originally thought however the NTDP definitely could beat them. I would guess it would be 50/50.

unds team would be so much older. London may win, sure. But und would win more often. London had several high end guys but the depth isn't there. the NTDP would probably beat London. They literally have one line.

http://thehockeywriters.com/2016-nhl-draft-war-room-top-30-impact-prospects/ Jost is starting to go pretty high in these mock drafts.

Haha, just a guess bud. I actually had Gersich or Wilkie plugged in there first. But JJ was the smartest of the three and worked super hard. JJ could pass. We'll see. With Schmaltz and Boeser (obviously) together, whoever is playing with them should succeed as long as they can work hard and keep up. If Jost goes top ten he's playing center.

Agree 100%. Another interesting one (not a soph however) is Pogo. There were time last year he really stuck out. Something many people forget is that these guys are young and (most) will continue to develop and get better year over year.

Agreed.

I'm guessing they may very well go with a loaded top line. But Jost is 100% a center and may go in the top 8 in this year's draft. Similar to Toews, you don't have high first round center play wing unless they struggle at the position first. Also, Schmaltz has to play center now too, he's continually getting better at the position and he'll have one year left before the NHL. He needs to fine tune is faceoff skills before he jumps.

First stab: Janatuinen-Schmaltz- Boeser Rhett -Jost-Pogo Gersich – Simo – Wilkie Yon - Hoff- T. Olson (not sure who plays C) T Poolman – Wolanin Gage – Shaw C Poolman-Johnson (top 4 will play a ton) (PP1) Jost-Schmaltz- Boeser T Poolman (QB) – Wolanin (PP2) Gersich/Wilkie-Gardner-Pogo Gage – Shaw (QB)

I guess. I could see Bowen playing that band-aide roll in practice. Play where they need him. I would think it will be tough for him to crack the line up barring injuries.

I heard that Bowen give it a go at D.

Cole Smith

I think he was supposed to be a top ten pick.

as of today, I'd be willing to take that bet.

Haha.