watchmaker49

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I don't see you using your law degree to help out any. You keep saying stand up and fight but you do not seem to be fighting yourself though, typical GOP style. As the saying goes, "put up or shut up".

This shows why you work in corporate law and he works in a little town doing trusts and wills.

Does anyone have a copy of Hak tuning up Ben Hankinson at center ice?

Dano was there and got suspended. They copy I have of the fight on tape is longer than the youtube ones. Mine has Mad Dog saying pop that bozo.

Is there not something where they only have to use for something to keep in effect?

It is a copyright that is owned by UND so a little letter saying....

As if it is not almost dead now. It is running on life support. There is nobody out there anymore.

Great commentary by Ed "Mad Dog" Schultz on this version.

Somewhat a perfect analogy for the situation you would have to agree.

I agree with you on this. Though it would/could be considered a state election of sorts being that UND is a state institution. As you said about the $10 donation to get on the voting list as a donor could lead to a lawsuit that would cost UND/state money and they would lose citing the 24th as you said. That is why I think when you look at all the possible ramifications of trying to decide who gets to vote the only answer as Joshua said is, "not to play".

If they had to donate to vote that would meet the requirement of a poll tax per se. Harper v. Virginia State Board of Elections In the 1966 case of "Harper v. Virginia State Board of Elections," the Supreme Court supported the 24th amendment by noting that poll taxes are a violation of the equal protection clause of the Constitution. Read more: Poll Taxes Definition | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/facts_6761770_poll-taxes-definition.html#ixzz1kb0lxWZf Hence why I think the way that I do about this. To prevent a problem just let group C (current students and graduates) vote.

That is the problem with making a list of voters someone will be forgotten. How can a list be made of non-students? A (season ticket holder, big donator), gets to vote but B does not? B (emotional stakeholder like many posters here) will be mad then. The only easy way out of this mess is to limit voting to my suggested groups. That way everyone who is not a student, or graduate, will all be mad togther instead of creating classes of voters. One could equate this even to student government elections. Alumni, taxpayers, etc. all could say they have a vested interest in the outcome but only students get to vote, and not many even bother (less than 10% voted in the last election). I am not trying to create a problem with my suggestion. I am trying to avoid a large problem that will occur if the vote is not limited to my suggested groups. I can understand how the people I left out would be upset for not getting to vote for a name of something they love and hold in high esteem, I would be also if I was one of them. But they probably would get left out anyhow in the process for not being part of the A group. That is why I suggest that the A group should be left out also. Poll taxes are not allowed in the US and that is what would happen if A got to vote and B did not. I know by only allowing my suggested groups to vote it is easy to argue that they paid a poll tax to vote also. There lies the still lingering dilema, but it is the only way out that I can see. I'm open to suggestions to what others think. In those suggestions though, cover all the bases and ramifications of your suggestions please.

My bad and apologies to you.

I am not proposing this to be malicious as Rico is, there is the difference. I am proposing trying to keep it orderly. As lakesioux said they pay taxes so they should get to vote also, there are people younger than 18 who pay property taxes that do not get to vote. I pay property taxes in two counties but only get to vote in one. Have it on a statewide ballot? Bad idea if there ever was one. Just think about it Jay. The only way to keep the process orderly is to only give ballots to current students and graduates. It is not like this is some big democratic issue for everyone to vote on.

Reading problems? I said current students followed by graduates. My point is that it can not be put up as a public vote. Limits need to be outlined as to who will vote or all you will have is a big mess. From all of posters responces the difficulty of picking and chosing who votes becomes as I said too messy. Stakeholders is too broad of a term. Faculty is too broad is too broad of a term. Small stakeholders, such as season ticketholders, somewhat limited in scope though still too broad. To make it simple the only way is to only allow current students and actual graduates to choose. As for Uncle Rico's comment saying anti-logo people shoul not get a voice, and all those who agree with him, how much more sophmoric can you be? Some here scream how SR voices are not being heard and should get to vote while they wish to deny others their right to vote, hypocricy?

Because you give money your voice counts more?

I propose only current and actual graduates of UND get to vote on the new name.

That's better.

Try telling the one who started it to.

Stick to writing wills and trusts since from what I have seen you do not do well in the courtroom. I wonder how many right out of lawschool lawyers file ethic complaints against long time attorneys that get thrown out?

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Another small town boy who still is in denial.

He has to share his date with Chewey. Who goes first between them?

Proven fact is that people who are homophobic are in denial of their true sexuality.