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Agreed. Another example of subpar coaching currently for UND.

One final quote from the above link to cement my point. “Coaching is Boise State's Chris Petersen signing players the big boys overlook and winning more than 90 percent of his games. Coaching is the 17 Broncos who have played for Petersen and been drafted by NFL teams. Coaching is Barry Alvarez building a program at Wisconsin, or Chip Kelly taking Oregon from good to great. They didn't have blue chips. They had a clear vision. The top men in the game are as effective in recruiting as they are brilliant in coaching. Bobby Bowden led Florida State to 14 consecutive top-five finishes because he harvested the state's wellspring of talent. In the past four years, Alabama has won three BCS championships and had 13 players selected in the first round of the NFL draft. Like Bowden, Nick Saban found the talent. And like Bowden, Saban developed it. The grapes that grow on Howell Mountain in Napa Valley make the best cabernet sauvignon in the world. But without the right winemaker, all you'd get is another bottle of Two-Buck Chuck. Recruiters work day and night to coax the right players to sign with their school. Only then do coaches begin their work. Recruits are grapes. Recruiters are farmers. Coaches are winemakers.” Bubba may not be going anywhere (certainly not getting terminated), but he better think about either retiring or at least changing some position coaches or his defensive coordinator, because the development right now is crap and the winemaking is awful.

It’s both, but as a rule of thumb, it starts with the players (recruiting), and ends with what the coaching does with it. “It’s not the X’s and O’s, but the Jimmys and the Joes.” WRONG. Coaching puts the average programs over the top. And gets the good programs not just wins, but championships. “Recruiting is Michigan beating Appalachian State. Coaching is Appalachian State beating Michigan.” http://www.espn.com/college-football/hot/_/id/9395142 Why this time of year, every year, are numerous coaches fired and new ones hired. It’s no secret coaching, development, teaching and mentorship is what leads to wins and championships. Not just how many stars you have coming out of high school (which ND high school kids definitely don’t have). Why does UND stick with a staff that has one playoff win in 9 seasons? Simple; money (lack thereof) and expectations (not high enough - hockey). FBS programs and top FCS programs that don’t have these issues clearly would do the obvious; get a new coaching staff. Saying the coaching is not the issue, especially in this era of college football, is pure crap. It’s conservative old-timers puffing smoke and building mirrors. Get better coaches, or else the leadership and development of the impressionable young men that make up UND football won’t accomplish the top tier.

Only so many adjustments that can be made when your front seven is too weak and slow to stop a top FCS running game. Weber State and NDSU just beat up UND’s front seven. With that said, alignment/run fits were all screwed up, so coaching was partly an issue, no doubt.

^fixed your post but in all seriousness, it’s linebacker or bust for him. He has no business being in the defensive secondary, at all. Such a bad safety. I’d go as far as saying the worst UND starting safety in the past 20+ seasons.

The alignment is not the issue, it’s the players and the calls. 3-4 requires different type of players than 4-3. Bottomline, you fit the scheme to the players, not the other way around. With recruiting, you can recruit to the scheme, but the more flexible you are the better. You don’t need “Bama and Georgia level talent” to run a 3-4, you just need the right type of players. The bigger issue is how complicated and rigid the 3-4 system that UND runs is. It’s too complicated right now, and needs to be simplified so the best players - regardless of class or experience - can play.

Georgia.

I actually agree. He wants to retire in Grand Forks. Great guy, and I hope he stays here long term to represent the university and football program, just not as HC. As I said above, hope he hands the keys to Danny Freund. Also wouldn’t mind a nation wide search for new blood, but more likely scenario is the former (promotion of Freund).

Yeah, no crap. That’s what I just wrote. Because he’s multi-year extended and the program is financially decrepit.

Yes, he was deemed the guy after a 5-6 2021 season. Funding football for UND is already an issue, so aimlessly extending coaches so you can’t buy them out is an issue.

Our defensive background head coach, along with Holinka, have gutted our defense. And Chaves extends this after a losing season? I hope Bubba has the balls to hang it up sooner rather than later and hand the keys to Danny Freund. Lost a lot of respect for him from a coaching perspective, but he’s a really nice guy.

I agree

Got it.

I agree with that. Not saying you’re beating your chest, just saying I’d trade that YSU win for a win against Nebraska, North Dakota State or South Dakota State in a heartbeat. It was a good win, but not season defining or program changing by any means. It will be quickly forgotten by everyone other than the diehards and the players/coaches on this year’s team. On this site, a negative slant is a kind way of saying I disagree with you because you’re highlighting UND football’s shortcomings. Others on here say it more bluntly and crudely, so I actually appreciate “negative slant”.

So in summary, 6 to 7 wins again is the most likely outcome, and you continue to think the Big Sky Conference is head and shoulders above the MVFC. Sounds like more of the same, to me.

See above post. Which FBS team or FCS playoff team did UND beat to post on their resume? Bubba’s team was underwhelming in 2022.

Okay, UND beat a couple average teams, then, not all cupcakes. Beating your chest that UND eeked out a road win against YSU is not a good hill to die on. I’m not pissed, I’m apathetic at this point. Same ol’, same ol’.

UND has plenty of big slow bodies. It’s the lineage. Need actual speed in the receiver room; it’s absent right now. Belquist #1 is the only stud.

None of them will ever sniff a 500 yard season at UND (that’s all purpose, so I’ll give them rushing and return yards, also). 84,12,13 aren’t good enough. 10 has a chance.

You’re spot on. Be careful, most folks on here don’t like it when you point out the roster is filled with high end D2 players. It’s reality. There are some good players on the roster, don’t get me wrong, but not enough. Need to go out and change that this off season.

10 is still young and could improve. 84, 13, and 12 have no business being on a DI roster. They can transfer- give ‘em the green light.

Won’t be far if UND defense doesn’t produce more turnovers.

This team went 7-5, it should be improved at all spots, but 1) edge rusher, 2) corner and … wait for it … 3) receiver are my top 3 position needs for 2023. I agree, RB and even a QB depth transfer is not a bad idea. UND needs to infuse FBS level talent on this team badly. If they can’t develop it, which I don’t think they can based on sample size, then go heavy on FBS transfers and JuCo kids.

Nah, we have a 9 year sample size of what this staff does in recruiting, development, and game planning. I agree, 4-7 to 7-4 is the range at this juncture, barring some major recruiting developments.

All players aren’t D2 caliber, but several are. Recruiting needs to improve. But I agree, development and coaching salary needs to get better also. Basically, program needs to look itself in the mirror and stop repeating the same mistakes over and over.