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People are mad with the process because a) it continuously changes and b) none of the original supposed nickname requirements have been met.
Say Fighting Hawks wins, there is nothing unique or inspiring about it. There are zillions of other schools using bird mascots and well as like 30 using Hawks.
Say Roughriders wins, yes it is unique in college but our town has a high school with the same name. There is also debate about if it evokes any local pride and is true North Dakota.
This process has been jacked up from the beginning, produced nicknames of poor quality for us to select from, and don't little to unite the fan base. The way I see it, it is pretty much an all around failure no matter which name we end up with.
Which name do you suggest then? Please offer nickname alternatives to accompany your dissatisfaction with the current choices. Nevertheless, whatever you come up with, the majority never supported it and so here we are.
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Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but my goodness, you'd swear by some comments that UND just announced they are dropping men's hockey. I honestly can understand the frustration because this entire fiasco has been frustrating, but with that said, its time to get a name and work with it. No one was able to produce a quality name, so, here we are. The nickname will be the Fighting Hawks, with a very slim chance of it becoming Roughriders. In both circumstances, its time to support the University of North Dakota and the direction we all have been forced to go. To continue to criticize the process yet offer no alternative solutions is just contentious, and for those who have offered solutions, they should understand how difficult it has been for the majority to accept them. Ultimately, UND needed a nickname. Yes, its unfortunate for all those coddled, entitled individuals (okay, not exactly...), but remaining nickname-less was not an option and the options that were given were as good as all the others. So, buy some damn Hawk shirts and keep going to games. Before you know it, if you REALLY ARE A SUPPORTER OF THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH DAKOTA, you'll be chanting "Fighting Hawks chants" and yelling "Go Hawks!" And if you absolutely wish to consciously abstain from that, then at least you'll be in attendance supporting UND athletics, albeit irritable and disputable.
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Anyone who thinks that the NCAA isn't going to consider said hawk logo to be Native American imagery, is a fool. Including those who voted for Fighting Hawks based on that logo.
Perhaps some believe the synthesized logo will be worthwhile, even if it is unknown at this point. The NCAA is not going to reject or even comment on a well thought-out "hawks" logo, so long as it refrains from Native American imagery.
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Honestly my line next week will be less than 1/3 of eligible voters chose Fighting Hawks. 1/6th (considered a majority) chose this for us. So by all means, go on and vote so that I can at least start accepting that we are a childish enough fan base to elect Hawks by majority, as opposed to an indifferent fan base.
So, the other universities that have "bird" nicknames are childish and/or have immature fan bases?
UND is no more privileged than:
Air Force Falcons
Ball State Cardinals
Boston College Eagles
Bowling Green Falcons
Eastern Michigan Eagles
Florida Atlantic Owls
Georgia Southern Eagles
Louisiana-Monroe Warhawks
Louisville Cardinals
Miami (OH) Redhawks
Oregon Ducks
Rick Owls
South Carolina Gamecocks
Southern Miss Golden Eagles
Temple Owls
Yes, there are a lot of "bird-related" nicknames, but most of the schools have identifiable logos and, most importantly, do just fine with their athletics. UND can do just fine with marketing and promotions as the Fighting Hawks. Furthermore, UND can be successful on the field, ice, and court as the Fighting Hawks.
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Not PC or PETA approved.
Try again...........
If the PC police or PETA can't appreciate nature, then they can get the hell out of North Dakota and refocus their attention elsewhere.
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Let's cut thru the pollyanna BS......NO.....and I mean no Hawks logo they can come up with will be "cool" or "unique".
Put down the pitcher of Kool-Aid.
Well, apparently a rumored hawks logo has promoted the "fighting hawks" nickname enough to where it has majority support; thus, it seems that "cool" hawk logos are possible.
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Do you suppose a creative mind out there can find a logo for Fighting Hawks that doesn't involve a bird?
Not going to happen.
It will be what 99% of people think when they hear the word "hawk"
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A guy that sits by me at the Ralph showed me that proposed Blackhawks logo, and told me that was going to be our new logo when we became the Fighting Hawks. After a while, I finally made him understand that his information was incorrect. I wonder how many people are voting for that name based on that logo.
Nevertheless, the lesson here is that the new logo carries just as much weight - if not more - as the actual nickname itself. With that in mind, either Roughriders or Fighting Hawks can be "unique" if the subsequent logo is well-made and appealing.
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How many of you hockey folks thought "Wild" was the dumbest nickname choice ever...and now have 17 different Minnesota jerseys hanging in your closet because that logo is just so damn cool?
Show of hands, please, by +1's or -1's.
Exactly.
If the UND Fighting Hawks have a neat new logo that looks "cool", I can see plenty of new UND apparel getting worn real quickly...
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Didn't know Nodak supporters were so thin skinned?
They seem to represent the entitled population who want "this or nothing".
I for one have changed by mind according to the beliefs of THE VOTERS. The majority has spoken; thus, I will get on board and move on.
Go UND!
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It's pretty close...maybe we should do it one more time with all three
Ha
...of course, you could also say that the bottom 2 were so distant from the top choice, that we DONT need another vote...
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Although it will take a little over a week to become official, let's all embrace the obvious.
How about them University of North Dakota Fighting Hawks? Go Hawks!
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Absolutely, terrible call. If you are rolling on the ground with the football and can flip it up to someone.... You are down in college football. I really think replay may almost be worse for officiating this year as they let the play play out then have an extremely hard time overruling themselves. That said I foresaw something bad happening for the bung gulls after they thought they had it in the bag after the Montana fumble. +1 on being nice to watch other teams on big sky TV.
I do not agree with that.
Yes, the Big Sky officiating is poor, but that doesn't mean replay is the reason.
Last weekend, against Montana State, UND had a crucial call overturned due to replay. Replay is used all over college football, and the way I see it, it is about time that FCS football and the Big Sky Conference implement it.
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Wow. Idaho State chokes and Montana wins in OT 33-27.
Idaho State lined up for an OT field goal attempt to win the game but they completely falter under pressure and snap the ball too high, Griz pick it up and then return it for the game winning touchdown!
Both Portland State and Idaho State lost heart-breakers today, and they were the two teams who, with wins, would've helped out UND. Also, SUU beat Montana State in Bozeman.
NAU is also beating Eastern Washington....
Lot of teams starting to pile up records similar to UND, which is not good for UND's playoff chances.
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Well, UNC beats #10 Portland State 35 - 32.
Two 5-4 teams will face off next weekend in the Alerus Center.
Northern Colorado and North Dakota are the only two teams to have defeated Portland State this season.
Northern Colorado will come into the Alerus with plenty of confidence. Considering how big the game is for UND, people need to come out and support UND football!
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Portland State looking to take the lead at the end against Northern Colorado.
Northern Colorado has played well in Greeley this season, but on the road they have been suspect.
UND certainly shouldn't overlook UNC, but with an extra week to prepare and heal up, I expect UND to win by at least 14 points against UNC.
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Alex Johnson from East Ridge looks like the prototypical UND tweener OLB/S type that would be really good coming off the edge in 2-3 years.
Looks like a really good pass rusher and is about the size Idowu and Disterhaupt were in high school.
Funny you say that, I was thinking the exact same thing when I read that.
I have a feeling Bubba is thinking the same thing too...
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Alo received an offer tonight.
Physical, local prospect.
Need to recruit and ultimately commit all of these local standouts.
Go UND!
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Question for you guys. I have some relatives (by marriage) that are NDSU fans. They claim that the Alerus can't host playoff games cause the ceiling isn't high enough. Has anyone else heard this before? I know it's not correct but you can't argue with children, women and the mentally challenged. Bison fans are in all those categories.
Completely false.
The ceiling is more than elevated enough.
Fighting Hawks .vs Roughriders
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Avoid the disappointment, anticipate Fighting Hawks.