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  1. There isn't the volume of players in-state for that to be true anymore. Thats just simple math. In the D2 days, sure.

    I'd say the truism would be the school that wins ND/MN has the better future, but MN is not in-state.

    Go through NDSU's championship teams and look at all the contributing players from North Dakota and Northern Minnesota. Yes, those players may not come in ready to play like kids from California, Florida, and Chicago, but they're most likely to put in the work, not leave early, and ultimately develop into good players. Believing that North Dakota and northern Minnesota players aren't important is a fallacy and it likely is one of the important reasons why UND is behind NDSU on the football field.
  2. I was reading an article lately and it focused on in-state recruits. For North Dakota, top recruits focus on either UND or NDSU. I thought it would be interesting to have a list of all the top ND recruits and where they are going. The team (NDSU or UND) that wins ND in recruiting will often have the better future. Need to win in-state...

  3. agreed. looks like UND will be able to punish people a lot more with the run game this coming season compared to the last few years. the size and depth at RB is something UND has been lacking for a bit

    Absolutely, size and power has been absent in UND's running game.

    Now, with the UAB and Wyoming transfers, the freshman from Canada, and Simmons retuning, UND will finally have some DI size in the backfield.

  4. I don't think I'm going to like Kelly green pants at all.....with Kelly green tops, hope they keep with the white pants!

     

     

    I would expect Kelly green jerseys and white pants at home and then the Kelly green pants will be used on the road with the white jerseys. Likely an all green look only once a year for a rivalry game such as Montana or Montana State. 

  5. So the assumption is Heidlbaugh is not QB material?? I think the coaching staff is trying to decide this, too. Maybe give the kid a chance to throw some balls around on scout team and redshirt, what the hell.

    We have Joe and Ryan (Jr. season) and Keaton (Soph. season) heading into this year. Joe is recovering from his surgery and Ryan is recovering from hurt feelings when Keaton started the last 3 games last year. So, the situation isn't very comforting depending on Joe being healthy and Ryan sticking around if Keaton emerges from Spring ball the starter, and can Keaton physically handle the hits over an entire season....... I see a lot of questions, would be good to bring in another QB based on uncertainty and lack of depth.

    Absolutely.

    No reason the coaches shouldn't give Heidlbaugh a chance to play QB during his redshirt season. Development and teaching is key to this team having a bright future anyways. If it doesn't work then move him to TE.

  6. Offensive line needs depth desperately. Losing that California JUCO kid does hurt some.

    With Anderson, Meehan, Stockwell, and Francis, I think the starting oline this season is mostly set; however, key depth is needed and Boas should be replaced as a stater if any half-way decent recruit is picked up.

  7. UND football and Bubba are sure accumulating some good talent and constructing a heck of a 2015 class.

    Of course, it all needs to hold up and work it's way out on the field, but judging by what Bubba and his staff were able to do with last year's less than adequate talent/depth, I think the development of these players will go good.

    Good things ahead for UND football!

  8. Very disappointing home stand. Still don't know what to make of Jones. Doubt we can afford anything any better.

    Wrong. So very wrong. Many deserving DII coaches out there waiting for their shot at coaching DI. Plus there's no reason UND and Mr. Faison can't spend a little more; too much invested in dead programs like women's hockey and baseball.

  9. That is true. Also, how did UND lose by 30 to that garbage he is trotting out there this year. That loss looks worse every day.

    Well, UND basketball and Mr. Brian Jones aren't too hot themselves...

  10. I like his size but his first step and first 5 yards are a little slow. Not the type of twitch id like in our defensive players. Maybe he's a TE.

    Maybe we're looking at different videos but I think the kid has potential.

    http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1561078/keith-key

    Good bloodlines, both in talent and in resources. Like his size too; good to have some strong side size rather than always recruiting 5'10 190 lbs OLBs.

    Hope it works out for him and UND football!

  11. Mod's this topic has run its course and has been off topic for awhile now. Time to lock it.

    This thread is what it is and isn't going to cause any sort of catastrophe. If you don't like it, don't read it.

    As for NDSU, give them their credit. They have built a powerful brand in FCS football and Summit basketball.

    As for UND, there's no reason success can't come in those aforementioned sports. However, whether the hockey diehards like it or not, more emphasis needs to be put on football and basketball. That means less on hockey; just the way the law of distribution works. Need increased budget for better salary for a different MBB coach and better marketing/gameday experience for football. Also need HPC phase II to get completed. With that and hard work, UND football and MBB will eventually see success ALONG WITH hockey.

    Oh, and also need an AD who can see this vision and aspire to make it a reality...

  12. Surprised there ar that many in the nfl from fcs. But we are still talking 43% ncaa d1 hockey to 21% fcs football. I don't really care. The only reason I even brought this up is because we have und fans here belittling the hockey program.

    Belittling the hockey program? The hockey program is great but the emphasis placed on it by the UND athletic department creates challenges in terms of funding football and basketball. To believe that is not the case is downright ignorant. Can UND football succeed as a DI program? Absolutely, but the UND athletic department needs to change their current direction.

  13. v Yes, and FCS/Div 1-AA football is a non-event to the average college football rube nation-wide. And that's not to belittle NDSU's 4 straight lower tier title wins, it's just a fact. So, same-same I guess.

    FCS football gets a lot more national coverage than college hockey, though. How many FCS games on ESPN? Now how many college hockey games? How about sports shows? FCS football shows up on those highlights, especially if they upset a FBS squad, a lot more than college hockey. That fact remains, whether you like it or not, that hockey is extremely unpopular in America when looking at things relatively.

  14. Here's what's really needed at the Alerus.

    High caliber football players.

    We filled the Alerus when we had them and we will again when we get them.

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    Yes, but a little commitment from the people producing and hosting gameday would be nice. This is nothing novel; just some effort is needed.

  15. Hockey is much more than a psychological hindrance. There are multiple times over the past decade where the success of the other sports was compromised in order to further the hockey programs interests. Here is just a short list off the top of my head of both big and small items over the last decade.

    1. Shortly after the Ralph's construction, Ralph throws a temper tantrum after finding out that the state of the art weight facility in REA was used for a football workout. Ralph pisses and moans and UND football never again sets foot in the REA weight room. UND football continues to work out in a facility at Memorial Stadium that is sub-par in comparison to every other regional program and will continue to do so until Phase 2 of the the new IPT is completed.

    2. UND turns over all marketing for the entire athletic department to REA which leads to a questionable allocation of advertising dollars such as a full scale ad campaign for the world junior's tournament in 2004 being rolled out a few weeks before UND football begins the FB season in a year where UND Football is coming off a trip to the Division II National Football Championship. Advertising for UND football and the other sports can best be described as below average to non-existent ever since REA assumed control.

    3. In order to finance scholarships and shore up losses incurred by the start-up of women's hockey, Buning cut the recruiting and travel budgets for men's and women's basketball and football. This was when football and WBB were still financially viable and supporting their own costs. We cut funding for a successful program that was only a few years removed from a national football championship to finance women's hockey! Women's hockey was started in the first place because REA was hired to do a study on which sport on campus had the greatest potential for future growth and came back with women's hockey, which should have been met with laughter by Thomas and Kupchella if they would have had even a shred of objectivity.

    4. Kupchella sits on his hands for four years following NDSU's decision to move to Division II in part because of the concerns that a move to Division I in every sport would have on the hockey program. Finally caves and agrees to move to Division I after a near mutiny of the football alumni who had watched their contributions continue to be allocated to shore up general fund deficits created by women's hockey and other poor spending decisions made by the REA.

    5. When SIU tendered an offer to Dale Lennon (the most successful FB coach in UND history), UND refused to match the terms of the contract because it would have made him the highest paid coach in the school and upset the salary hierarchy as he would have made more than Hakstol. I have no doubt that if Schweigert can engineer a turnaround of the football program and another team within our division comes calling, that Faison and Kelly would make the same decision.

    6. When Big Sky affiliation was in jeopardy due to the Sioux nickname controversy and the idiotic workings of the ND legislature, Hakstol goes rogue and comes up out urging hockey fans to contact their representatives to encourage passage of the nickname law. The law passes and negatively impacts every other sport on campus for 18 months until the law is finally repealed. Hakstol, who should have been terminated in my opinion, receives next to nothing in discipline for his actions. Most of the posters on this board to this day will defend his actions to this day even though it nearly derailed UND's entire Division I move.

    I'm sure there are many more instances that i"m forgetting or do not know about, but all in all it's decisions like the above that have gotten us to today. I've seen nothing that indicates that the thinking within the athletic department or UND's administration has changed one bit. Until we acknowledge that UND needs to change it's entire thinking in terms of the athletic department, the other sports will continue to struggle to have sustained long-term success.

    I was aware of a few of those points, but a few surprised me. All in all, it just comes back to UND's athletic department needing new leadership and direction. I agree that hockey does not need to be torn down completely, but football and basketball need to be better emphasized...like a lot. Also, your points about women's hockey are very logical; you would have persuaded me to cancel that program if I wasn't already in possession of that stance.
  16. This is probably my biggest gripe about the Alerus Center on game days. There is a big sign outside on the Alerus that says "Home of UND football" but you would hardly notice it when walking in the doors!! If the Alerus want to truly be the home of UND football, they need to step it up. UND football is their #1 tenant. Get murals on the walls. Get the more green and white in the concourses. banners hanging on the walls. All these things would enhance the experience and make going to UND football games an event.

    Absolutely!

    #1 thing Alerus should do before next season! It would be inexpensive and effective. Get it done Alerus! Of course, going back to when the turf design was made, the Alerus doesn't actually care about UND football as much as they pretend to.

  17. University of New Hampshire is a similar situation where they seem to have success in both, by and large. They are somewhat down in hockey this year but they always seem to be in the hunt in both sports. So it's doable.

    University of New Hampshire is a very good model in comparison to UND. UNH had the #1 in the FCS playoffs this season. I would like to think UND could get to that FCS football level in the near future; that is my hope.

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  18. I really can't poke any holes in that article/argument.

    If your aren't winning you'd better have some other draw (like a shiny new or upgraded facility).

    Proof? What was UND Hockey's record the first year in the new REA? (Hint: < 0.500)

    I do wonder why the GF Herald is interested in getting football back on campus. That may not make the Alerus owners (city of GF) happy.

    Football being back on campus would be favorable, down the road of course. I think it would get the student body back into football games.

  19. I don't think it needs to take away from hockey. I think it comes to the attitude of leadership. The ac did a great job of marketing to the public that this was a new era...a step up. And it worked! While we belittled Valpo, their marketing created true believers. Meanwhile Kuppy and RT were downplaying that a move to FCS was even a higher level of ball to start with.

    When that's where leadership was coming from it isn't hard to understand the opportunity was squandered.

    Agree.

    If UND's athletic department doesn't want football and men's basketball to succeed and compete for championships, they won't. It all starts at the top. Faison is so content, and dare I say it, lazy, that the expectations for football and basketball are very convoluted.

  20. Agree but for some to even suggest that hockey in any way, shape or form is the reason for the lack of success in FB and MBB is ridiculous and flatout ignorant.

    Hockey is largely a psychological hindrance, at least for the current athletic department staff. UND should be able to focus on improving football and basketball along with hockey, but it seems most in the UND athletic department are content right now just because hockey is okay and everything else (football and M basketball) is not. Faison and some of his employees (UND SID) are so dead set on hockey that the others suffer; it's a matter of the truth. One can't look at the mediocre nature of UND's football and M basketball track record since moving DI and say otherwise.

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