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25 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:
Screwed over as in we lost recruits because of them?
Ranked UND lower than they should've been ranked in my opinion. No big deal - only time will tell if UND's class is #26 or not.
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1 hour ago, UNDvince97-01 said:
Speaking of the article, Reyes is the defending BSC Defensive POY and he doesnt even get mentioned? Seems odd since he has the resume and notoriety.
Either there is fire with that smoke or the author of the article is in la-la land.
It's awesome to have 2 pro prospects on defense, both from the secondary no less. We've come a long way in the back row in a short time.
I'd go with la-la land.
I love that Hero sports gives the FCS so much attention, but the quality of their articles leaves something to be desired. They have completely fallen hard for the Ag school hype and are quite biased with it. Also, they screwed over UND in their recruiting class rankings, in my opinion. Just my two cents; I think Reyes will get plenty of attention this season from the NFL and he may portentially get some post-season invites depending on how he performs/does health-wise. He has the measurables, that's for sure.
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5 hours ago, Risky said:
If we win Saturday the one negative would be to get to the dance we might have to beat Weber 3 times.
I would intercept this as a positive rather than a negative, although I think it will be very difficult for UND to win in Ogden. Beating Weber at their place, though, would suggest that UND should be able to beat them on a neutral floor. You never know, though; should be a good game.
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3 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
That's not what I said.
Football is going nowhere. However, allow it to be evaluated right now. It'll show it's a better "net" than most of the rest and it should quiet the noise from some quarters.
I know, I know.
I was more so just being overly critical of your post because you left out football.
UND men's hockey and football are the cream of the crop based on current attendance numbers and future potential in that department for football - period.
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3 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
The Summit requires MBB and WBB. Men's hockey is not being cut.
I suppose not joining the MVFC might make some, possibly including you, happy ....
But no changes coming in regards to that; Kennedy is currently impressed, thankfully.
@dfreund7@UNDfootball I was very impressed by the dedication of the team and the leadership of the coaches. You make@myUND proud.8:56 AM - 17 Feb 2017
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28 minutes ago, 61hawk said:
What one sport do you suggest we cut, pick one... men's hockey, women's hockey, football, men's basketball or women's basketball.
There is one sport on that list that is a major outlier; that is the sport that obviously should be cut.
"But, but, but .... it produced Olympic athletics and fits the UND culture!"
Oh please, look at the attendance numbers - it is not even remotely close to the following of men's hockey, football, and men's and women's basketball.
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3 hours ago, GoHawks said:
Didnt Ratelle sign a futures contract with the Chiefs a few months ago?
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7 minutes ago, John W. said:
Fleck will do just fine in MN ..and will get the recruits he wants....about 14 instate recruits coming to junior day this weekend....He did say that there were about a half dozen players in the state this year worthy of FBS scholies, a down year talent wise...He'll also get the PWO's he wants...ie. Rousemiller this year..Go to GopherIllistrated to read the latest on his decision to be a PWO at MN....been a Gopher fan since a little kid...
MN can't win at their level with strictly in state talent, just like UND can't win at their level with only ND talent...coaches recruit to win....
I do largely agree with this statement.
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BOTH Deion Harris and Cole Reyes have the potential to be drafted in 2018 (although I agree that Cole Reyes is most likely to go first). The situation bodes well for UND's secondary in 2017. Enjoy this team in 2017 - tons of potential!
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19 minutes ago, AJS said:
Tough playing on the road, but they need this one (as well as UNC), need to be able to beat the lower half of the league, no matter where you play them. Excited for this game.
Exactly. If you can't beat lower-half conference teams on the road, then the big home wins are certainly diminished some.
With the big "end-of-the-season evaluation" looming, the road conference performances need to be watched carefully.
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5 hours ago, Bison06 said:
Is there a projected depth chart somewhere heading into spring football?
Based on my understanding, it will be something SIMILAR to this:
(For reference: http://www.undsports.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPID=6399&SPSID=58641&DB_OEM_ID=13500)
QB - 1) Keaton Studsrud, Sr. 2) Andrew Zimmerman, So. or Brad Heidlebaugh, So. 3) Ben Bolinske, RFr.
HB - 1) John Santiago, Jr. 2) Brady Oliveria, Jr. 3) James Johannesson, So. 4) Austin Gordon, So.
FB - 1) Kyle Norberg, Sr. 2) Tyler Coyne, Jr. 3) Brett Finke RFr.
TE - 1) Luke Fiedler, Jr. 2) Alex Cloyd, So. 3) Hunter Pinke, RFr.
WR - 1) Travis Toivonen, So. 2) Demun Mercer, Sr.
WR - 1) Noah Wanzek, So. 2) Luke Stanley, Jr.
LT - 1) AJ Stockwell, Sr. 2) Adam Stiner, Jr.
LG - 1) Dan Bell, Sr. 2) Grant Aplin, Jr.
C - 1) Grant Aplin, Jr. 2) Patric Rooney, So.
RG - 1) Demon Taylor, Jr. 2) Brandon Miller, Sr.
RT - 1) Bryce Blair, So. 2) Mat Cox, Sr.
OL to watch: RFr. Ryan Tobin, RFr. Nathan Nguon, RFr. Noah Mortel
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LDE - 1) Drew Greely, Sr. 2) Mason Bennett, So.
RDE - 1) Brandon Dranka, Sr. 2) Austin Cieslak, Jr.
NG - 1) Tank Harris, Jr. 2) Steve Greer, Jr.
OLB - 1) Jake Disterhauput, Sr. 2) Ray Haas, RFr. or Tanner Palmborg, Jr. or Jake Geier, RFr.
OLB - 1) Jade Lawrence, So. 2) Jaxon Turner, RFr. or Tanner Palmborg, Jr. or Jake Geier, RFr.
ILB - 1) Connor O'Brien, Sr. 2) Cam Hunt, RFr.
ILB - 1) Donnell Rodgers, So. 2) Dijon Murray, Sr.
LCB - 1) Deion Harris, Sr. 2) Tyus Carter, Jr.
RCB - 1) Torrey Hunt, So. 2) Evan Holm, So.
FS - 1) Tamas Stewart, Jr. 2) Chuck Flowers, Sr.
SS - 1) Cole Reyes, Sr. 2) Vashon Tucker, So. or Andre Randolph, RFr. or Jordan Canady, RFr.,
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P - 1) Austin Dussold, Sr. 2) Connor Bolduc, Jr.
K - 1) Reid Taubenheim, Sr.
LS - 1) Jacob Holmen, Sr. 2) Logan Alm, So.
H - 1) Stetson Carr, Sr. 2) Austin Dussold, Sr.
PR) Josh Seibel, Sr. or John Santiago, Jr. or Cole Reyes, Sr. or Cameron McKinney, Fr.
KR) John Santiago, Jr. or Evan Holm, So. or Cameron McKinney, Fr.
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1 hour ago, CMSioux said:
Since they've dropped any resemblance of fan activities associated with the game it almost seems like they want to make it hard for fans to get excited about football in the spring.
I completely agree.
The reason DI spring football games exist around the country is not so much for player and team development, although that is part of it, but rather to provide another fan opportunity and get the fan base excited for the upcoming season. Spring games allow for additional marketing of the program and that additional exposure only helps ticket sales in the fall, never hurts.
I'm not sure who is against hosting a spring game in the Alerus Center, but I do not agree with having it in the HPC when the games are played in the Alerus Center. Furthermore, the spring GAME, should resemble something of a GAME, even if the rules are altered some. The current situation is just a wasted opportunity as a spring game gives the fans something to be excited about, even if the game doesn't count and has minimal evaluation/practice purpose.
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4 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
That's understandable and I agree to a point, though I believe that EWU would have been a real problem for UND last year had they met up.
That's all hypothetical now. But yes, UND likely prefers the 2017 matchup over that hypoethcial 2016 matchup with Kupp on the field and Baldwin on the sideline.
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6 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
There was never going to be another (fill in the blank) until there was. EWU will continue to find elite WR in the pacific NW, I think we both know that's true.
Ive sat in on strategic recruiting meetings, trust me when I tell you these are conversations coaches have. It's all about winning the conference. Big 10 teams are building themselves as we speak to beat Michigan and Ohio state, SEC teams are practicing this spring to beat Alabama. Why do you think conferences tend to have teams that are built similarly if they have been conference mates for a long time. If Alabama ran the spread offense, teams would immediately be emphasizing pass rushing DE and lockdown corners in the sec, because alabama is built on the front seven being stout, so is every other sec team. Big 10 football was slow and methodical for the past 15 years, now urban Meyer brings Ohio state the spread and low and behold the rest of the big 10 starts to emphasize speed over power. It's not a mystery man, just look around and you'll see it.
You're correct and I understand that. My point is simply that UND believes they can win the Big Sky Conference by doing what they've been doing; in fact, they just won the conference. Run the ball, stop the run, and play good special teams.
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4 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
This is just how conferences work. Teams build themselves to beat their conference mates. Originally, NDSU built a team that could beat UNI so they could win the conference. They were the stud in conference so it's the way it goes.
I would be willing to bet you any amount of money, that when bubba and staff look at UND's team, they ask themselves what do we need to do to beat EWU, the class of the big sky and then they set out to do it.
Not UND and Bubba - sorry. Minutiae, yes; large-scale changes, no. UND will recruit to their vision irregardless. UND will beat EWU or whoever if they do that.
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1 minute ago, Bison06 said:
So it's interesting that bubba is shoring up the defensive backfield, do you all think that might have anything to do with the fact that to win the big sky you'll have to beat EWU? Because if I look at your defensive backfield competing in the MVFC I wouldn't say the need to improve it is nearly as important. This has been my point since the beginning, of it were 3 years from now I doubt UND would be as concerned about shoring up the DB group, they won't find a Cooper Kupp and his crew in the MVFC.
UND won't find a Cooper Kupp and his crew next year, though. He's gone and EWU isn't just reloading that type of talent. UND gets EWU in the Alerus in 2017 and UND's run and stop the run plan can certainly beat EWU.
Again, don't get so caught up in this conference affiliation thing - it won't change what UND does and plans to do.
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12 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
But that's my point, they have to be competitive in the big sky for the next four years too.
So a top MVFC team couldn't compete in the Big Sky Conference? This comment makes no sense to me. As UND builds itself via recruiting and philosophy to compete in the MVFC (as they have been doing all along), they will yet compete just fine in the Big Sky Conference. They did just fine in 2016. Big Sky Conference teams and Missouri Valley teams alike still play by the same rules. UND will not change their current direction - OL and DL.
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7 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
First of all, that's not a direct quote so you quoting me as saying "real talent" is already a stretch. Secondly, depth is about emphasis on a position, which is what my point has been this entire discussion. NDSU emphasizes certain positions due to the nature of how they are built. Because of that they don't take chances in recruiting with certain positions. O line and d line are two good examples. They offer many scholarships and bring many guys on campus to compete, some of them work out some of them don't but they don't leave it to chance by only recruiting one or two guys each year. Opposite example would be wide receiver, this is not a position of emphasis for NDSU, they don't allocate a lot of scholarship money to it each year. Probably why you have seen so many walk on receivers have success over the years. Nobody is disrespecting your players, I'm saying the coaches need to emphasize recruiting certain positions to compete in a different style of football.
I agree with your points. Just for your information, though, - as I don't know what you know about UND football - Bubba and his staff certainly emphasize defensive and offensive linemen, too. They are building their program in a very similar fashion to NDSU. UND also emphasizes athletic body types (6'2" 185 - 215 lbs.) that can play either outside backer or safety and also have significant special teams roles.
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3 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
Maybe I misunderstood the reason you mentioned that a non-MVFC team won the finals this year. What was your reasoning for mentioning that?
CAA plays a different style that still worked fine against the MVFC. 2016 Big Sky conference teams EWU and UND competed fine against MVFC and CAA (although UND ultimately lost two close games to CAA). Essentially, don't get too lost in conference affiliation.
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2 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
Wow, that's one hell of a stretch your taking there. Why go that direction with the conversation? I never mentioned for a second that any of your players weren't good enough to play at NDSU...sheesh
You certainly implied it when you said UND's backups don't have "real talent". What else would that mean? Let's not backpedal here.
We can respectfully disagree on the capability of the players. I think UND's players are just fine and are at the "MVFC caliber" (whatever that is I don't know - just know it's a concept from you NDSU folk).
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11 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
And two of the four national semi finalists/one of the finalists came from the MVFC...just a reminder.
And the other was from the Big Sky Conference. This just goes round and round. The MVFC team in the finals got run out of the stadium.
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13 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
I think you and I have different definitions of depth. Having players at the position that can come in is not depth. Depth is the guy backing up the starter isn't a large drop off and in some ways bring a different part to the game that the starter can't. NDSU's d line a couple of years ago was a good example, they had 4 DE that were almost interchangeable, Emmanuel was special, but when he needed a break his back up could provide a serious boost of pass rush that was better than what a tired Kyle Emmanuel could provide.
I realize you have a front seven that can stop the run, but could it still stop the run if 3 starters were on the sideline getting a break on some random 2nd down in the 3rd quarter? Depth isn't just players, depth of real talent is what I'm talking about and I don't believe UND has the depth of talent yet, at certain positions to hold up against the MVFC style of football. I could be wrong, but that's what I see.
By the way, that isn't a slight at UND, it's just the way football teams are built. if NDSU were building its team to win the big sky, I would expect the team to be much deeper in the secondary. Our starters are solid in most cases, but the backups need a lot of work.
Wow, talk about NDSU bias.
Yes, UND's backups have "real talent" and aren't just overlooked players that arrogant NDSU coaches couldn't look twice at. UNDs defensive line had injuries last season (including a broken collarbone for one starter) and didn't miss a beat. Nice try, though.
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16 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
Again, your running game was solid in the big sky, I don't think the way it's currently built would have the same success week in and week out in the MVFC. Maybe I'm putting too much weight in the NDSU/UND game a couple of years ago, but UND had zero push up front and then the very next week ran all over Davis. Adding backs like JJ will help, but having an offensive line that can move a stout defensive front is the biggest weakness I see from UND.
You are putting too much emphasis on that early 2015 game. Early season 2015 versus 2016 UND teams were quite different. More depth, more talent, and more cohesiveness moving forward. Record of the two teams (2015 vs 2016) speaks for itself.
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29 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
Different styles of football put strain on your team in different ways, meaning fatigue and injuries at those positions. Competing one gang against it is very different than playing against it every week. Your offensive line will need more depth and your front seven on defense though very talented will also need more depth of talent IMO.
The front seven on defense is already very deep (deepest on the team, in fact). Youre just over-praising the MVFC now. 2016 national champion came from the CAA, just as a reminder. UND will be just fine. Bubba and Schmidt know what it takes to compete in that league.
Mark Kennedy
UND (11-3, 16-8) @ Weber (11-2, 16-8) 2/18 8 PM
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UND starting to blow their lead. Need to get going again after this timeout.