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Also note on the ND BB History lesson story - Jon Kasper, BSC media chief is from Minot. Nice connection for UND to the Big Sky. He replied to an email back when UND was first accepted into the BSC that he was looking forward to having UND in the conference.

ouch!

They are very close, aren't they? And really, honestly, neither compares to this one:

played baseball against him in high school. my wife and his sister are friends. He is a good man from what I know.

poignant, sobering & well said. +1 for you dmksioux

Some really supportive testimony from today's hearings:

If nobody cares about hockey, and Bison basketball and football are more important than hockey, why are Sioux hockey jerseys such a hot item? Not just in Grand Forks, but all over the country. What is the likelihood that you might see someone wearing a Bison football or basketball jersey in Las Vegas or Disney World? You have a reasonable chance that you may, however, run into someone wearing a Sioux hockey jersey. Or better yet, wear one yourself and see how many non-North Dakotans will know exactly who the UND Fighting Sioux are!

sorry, I guess the sarcasm smiley was missing...

by the way, isn't it a strange coincidence that this story broke now?

It looks like Douple is getting a swirly from the Summit Presidents over losing UND to the Big Sky and doesn't want to go down alone. How can he possibly think that claiming a non-member successfully exerted influence on a decision of this magnitude would make him look better? This whole story just doesn't make sense from either perspective.

aw, c'mon, lighten up... it's not like this board will actually have an impact on the name chosen by the nickname committee.

Would this thread exist, even in jest, about Mussman or Jones if they could even dream of going to the playoffs, not to mention having realistic opportunities to reach the final four year after year?

from San Luis Obispo, home of Cal Poly SLO College Beat blog This idea is developing legs ...

The Big Sky does not object to the nickname, the NCAA does. Why does the nickname need the adjective "Fighting"? Wouldn't "Sioux" be less 'hostile and abusive', and possibly receive Standing Rock approval? After all, that is what the nickname was for most of the history of its use - and if you go back to the Standing Rock pipe ceremony, wasn't that the name that was actually agreed to?

Shooting 37% from the field is not too good, either... on their home court!

Spirit is one of the names my daughter, who is currently a student at UND, says she keeps hearing too. Also Force of the North. Not a fan of either, but the committee that makes the decision will not be asking me... Not sure that Cavalry is that high. Cal Poly is the Mustangs. There are others that are popular... Spirit 5:2 RoughRiders 3:1 Cavalry 5:1 Force of the North 7:1 Aviators/Pilots 8:1 Nodaks 10:1 Nokotas 10:1 Mustangs 10:1 Rangers 20:1 Warriors 50:1 Suhaki 1,000,000:1 (so you're sayin' there's a chance?)

According to this article, the Gophers will not play any non-conference teams with a Native American nickname/logo from 2006 forward (other than the Illini in the Big Ten). I didn't go back, but the only game I could find for this year is the women's BB team played the San Diego State Aztecs. So, the Gophers will play teams that have Native CENTRAL American nicknames! They did not play anyone in men's BB or FB with a NA nickname, nor in men's or women's hockey. Granted, there are not many NA nicknames left, but they have managed to avoid them this year. So the question does become relevant if the Big Ten Hockey Conference becomes a reality. Wasn't there an article earlier this week that said other hockey teams hate playing UND because they know it is going to be a tough series? Here's Minnesota's excuse.

look under My Settings / Profile / Manage Ingored Users I'm still a newbie, so don't know if that works, but that's where I have seen it.

If the Big Sky is looking for a way to get rid of UND since USD changed their minds, this could be a dangerous slope to get on. I hope the Big Sky is as happy to have UND as a member as UND is to be a member of the Sky, but what if, what if they didn't feel the same way with UND on its own out here in the central time zone in an 11/13 team league? Has there been any indication from the BSC where they stand on the nickname issue? Also, its human nature, that when someone tells you that you have to do something or that you can't do something, that we all want to do the opposite of what we are being told. We don't want to give up the Sioux name because we are being told we have to. (we certainly wouldn't have done this on our own) The Standing Rock tribe has and will continue to feel the same way about being told they have to vote on the nickname. When this news first broke, it sounded like a great idea, but there are so many questions that need to be answered...

Sorry, I was just going by the people from Fort Yates that I have asked about this. I did not go to the tribal webpage.

One problem with putting this legislation on the books is that the legislature only meets for a couple of months every other year. Two years ago, there was still time for it to work out under the (then) new agreement between Stenehjem and the NCAA. Those of you who are saying where were they January 2010? Well, they were at home, the last legislative session in North Dakota was in 2009. Those of you who realize that the legislature was not in session and say they should have called a special session, now there is a lot of extra costs for a single issue. Unfortunately, Stenehjem negotiated a very poor agreement when you look at the other schools that only needed to get the approval of the nearest tribe, yet UND has to get approval from two tribes. So, if the legislation passes, Standing Rock still doesn't bother to do anything about it and the NCAA stands firm, what is UND to do? Will UND be forced to keep the nickname and endure the sanctions and the rumored scheduling obstacles that may result while our citizen legislature goes home for 2 years? Does the Big Sky Conference care about the nickname issue? I have not seen anything about their position on it. As much as i would like to see UND keep the Fighting Sioux nickname and logo, if this passes and the legislature adjourns, what collateral damage will follow in the two years until the next session? I would hope that this legislation does not force UND into a corner that it cannot get out of. All that said, it would be great if this can work to keep the Fighting Sioux name! Another question that comes to mind, why do the Lakota people object to the use of the Sioux name? The members of the Standing Rock tribe call themselves Lakota, not Sioux, so why does the Standing Rock Tribal Council have to approve the use of a name they don't even use?

Rep. Dave Monson has a different angle - force the Standing Rock tribe (not tribal leaders) to vote to revoke allowing the use of the nickname. It also says the Spirit Lake Nation must vote to revoke it, but their support is already known. http://legacy.inforum.com/pdfs/Fighting%20Sioux%20Nickname-Monson%20Jan%202011.pdf Can this work?

Why can't this be argued on the basis of compelling the NCAA to abide by the wishes of the nearest Sioux tribe, as it did for Florida State Seminoles, Central Michigan Chippewa, Utah Utes and the others? Since the Standing Rock tribe will not allow this to go to the tribal members, why can't the voice of the Spirit Lake tribe be heeded?

My wife & I went to the movie "Life as we Know It" this weekend. There is a short scene with a brief shot of the guy wearing a well-worn green sioux t-shirt. You don't see the whole shirt, but it is unmistakably a Sioux, not Blackhawk logo. Even as the NCAA takes it away, the Sioux legacy lives!