yzerman19

It almost feels orchestrated how things were just kinda coasting along, then bang, bang the whole underbelly exposed.

I don’t know if white America is scared, but I do agree that the death of the boomer generation will advance equality.

I’d like to know what can end the lawless behavior (looting, arson, murder). Is there an ask that can be addressed in someway? Murderous cop is in jail. systemic inequality in economic outcome, opportunity, justice system...those aren’t things that change over night. They were there under Obama too.

Don’t people realize that it’s all about a certain element (elites for lack of a better term) controlling the mob, just by different methods? It’s Machiavellian: Be feared or be loved. Suppress the uprising by force and system or placate those likely to uprise. It’s all so disingenuous, it’s all meant for the very wealthy and powerful to stay that way. The problem that will not go away is that upward mobility in society has been crushed. Without a common achievable goal, society falls apart. Affordable home ownership and decent jobs. That is what works. Home ownership creates neighborhoods, schools, and safe communities. It also builds some wealth. The underlying issue is that people lack hope and a means to a better life. Throw in your face racism and tragedy into the mix, with people with time on their hands...it’s a match tossed into kerosene.

It’s not right wing or left wing, it comes together on the circle. They are extremists with a lot of frustration and hate. Look, I’m disgusted by the death of Floyd. It was wrong. The cop is in jail. To use it to set off the powder keg..I guess it was just waiting for a spark. It boils down to disenfranchised people. Set foot on my $1.4M piece of property with Ill intent...well, I guess I can show some of these thugs some NODaK roots...white tail running at 200 yards...hit 3 mallards in 30 seconds...

I get that, why I said major urban centers.

I thought that was an Onion headline at first

The bottom line game changer that has destroyed the promise of upward mobility (which was the fine thread that held us together) boils down to two very simple things: 1. Higher Education Costs 2. Housing Costs Both of those key components to society have become out of reach for the majority of people in urban areas. In the major urban centers a basic house that you would be comfortable with the schools and feel mostly safe will run you at minimum $500k. That’s $100k down payment. If you can save $500/mo it will take you 200 months to save for a down payment. 17 years...at $1000/Mo you get to 8 years. Meanwhile the price keeps going up, so if real estate outpaces your savings (likely) you are chasing even longer. Throw in some joblessness where you are burning down wealth instead of accumulating, the carrot stays out of reach. In CA it’s just gross. The cost of a middle class life is about $250k/year.

Exactly. This country has been a powder keg for awhile. Covid economic shutdown put us past the tipping point. All that’s needed was a spark.

Shaming for anything disgusts me. Mob mentality. Gutless. Extremely easy behind a computer keyboard too... it amazes me how many people’s mindsets have never left junior high. The social media movement simply encouraged that. wish the iPhone had never been invented...

Just read 81% of Canada’s deaths have been nursing home residents

Well done

Totally. It’s The immediate discounting of the message based on a bias against the messenger. Left: nothing you say matters because you are a heartless bigot that doesn’t share my values! Which are the correct values! You only think about yourself! Right: nothing you say matters because you are a mindless crybaby that doesn’t share my values! Which are the correct values! Stop worrying about everybody else and worry about yourself!

I’m just tired. 80+...give me a bottle of good scotch and a triple dose of ketamine. Honsestly. I don’t wish Ill upon anyone, but what would you do? Hold on for one more Christmas? Stop the world for one. Ire trip to Walmart or the fair?

Shame is an equal sword...I cast shame on everyone that donates less than $5k/ year to charity. I cast shame on people who haven’t saved a million bucks. Lots of ways to cast shame

same thing with guns. I have them, I hunt with them, I don’t have a round chambered until I’m ready for business. Yet they are dangerous.

Reasonable standards are fine, same with covid. Driving drunk implies you’ve been drinking. I am known to have two drinks and drive home, with my family in the car. I’ve been known to have more than that with no driving involved. I dont pound a half rack and drive. Same should apply to Covid. I have no reason to believe I am impaired, therefore I will go about my business.

We will never agree, because I don’t believe it is the responsibility of the government nor the citizens to do everything in our power to protect people at all costs. If I believed that, I would ban guns, ban cars, ban alcohol, ban tobacco, ban fire, ban knives, ban swimming pools, ban bears, ban sharks. start the sunscreen police next. Don’t eat meat. Etc. its a cruel world and some people lose and some people die.

Why?

Many a Patriot has sacrificed their life for liberty. Some are in history books, some in distant fields and deserts and on beaches. Some are names on walls or embodied in triangular folded flags on mantels and in dens. With their sacrifice in mind, I believe that civil liberties and economic freedom is more important than any individual’s illness or death.

I think if the entire economy is in shambles, the only thing you can hang your hat on is the health outcomes. Even if we do open up tomorrow, the damage is done. It would give people hope, but the economy is wrecked for a couple years.

I believe that almost all believe life is superordinate to the economy and they don’t want to be wrong and have 10% of their citizens die. It’s foolish to think that way, but they are weighing worst case. Some of the Dems might get added pleasure by tanking Trump in the process. They might also believe that the economy is already tanked, so why worry about a lost cause.

We’ve seen the individually tragic stories dominate certain types of thinking. Think about drunk driving. The odds of causing a wreck that kills people doesn’t go up noticeably until you are over 0.15 BAC, yet our law is at 0.08. Individually tragic events garner sympathy and ignore rational thought.

No rational person let’s the ship sink when you can seal 2% of the crew behind the hatch and stay seaworthy.

I did live in NY, and I have business interests in NY and NJ...and I’m in healthcare... i hear you on when this was about sports...