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The contract was in its final stages when Gene left. It was drawn up while Gene was still there. It just wasn't signed before he left because it wasn't compelety finished. Another few weeks and it would've been signed by him.

The contract was on Faisons desk for a home and home with a year in between. Media boy Faison ran to the herald and turned it down because it had to be an annual game. It's not a conspiracy like many of you like to believe. The contract that your dear leader finally signed was nearly finalized when Gene left for Iowa. Sit down with Brian and ask him about it. Your Gene theory will be deflated in a hurry. Why would he turn down a home and home a year apart yet finally agree to both in Fargo 4 years apart? Faison thought he had some leverage and quickly found out he didn't. He ran to the media with it and then had to try and save face. He's not a good decision maker.

Let's not leave out the fact that Faison kept turning down Genes offers and finally settled for the worst one. I believe the first offer was an every other year game with the first one being played in Fargo and the second was to be played in Grand Forks. But of course it's all NDSU and Gene's fault. Look at your half wit althletic director for the delay. He finally caves and takes a 2 game contract both in Fargo. You have quite the leadership up running your athletic department.

The sponsor of the bill said its was perfectly legal what ndsu did. It was the piss ant whining that UND did that screwed everyone.

The tickets sell at NDSU. Ferris State may be pathetic but it still sells out every time. If MSU doesn't pull a !@#!$ so late in the year a lower level school doesn't happen. The fact is NDSU is filling the schedule with 6 home games and selling out the dome within hours of going on sale to the public. UND wants NDSU to give them special scheduling treatment just because they're UND. Well unfortunately right now UND isn't a conference mate and they are currently just another OOC scheduling option. If you don't like the offer for a OOC game then don't sign but if you choose not to sign suck it up and quit the whining. NDSU wants their 6 home games. The FB home games are their bread and butter just like hockey home series for UND. If UND hockey only had 6 home games a year I highly doubt they'd be willing to entertain very many offers that would cause a 5 game home schedule. Take the one game payout. Everyone knows it wouldn't end there. One game will lead to many more. I wish Faison would've thought about that with Taylor's first offer how many years ago. We'd probably talking about who beat who already instead of who's dodging who over and over again.

SHSU travelled to Fargo first during NDSUs transition. You may remember Steve Walker connecting with Kole Heckendorf for the game winning TD pass late in the 4th against Rhett Bomar. That contract was made when NDSU was still in the Great West and needed OOC games. When the SHSU contract was signed UND was still in the scheduling refusal mode with NDSU. The season ticket holders were upset about only having 5 home games in 2009 but Gene wouldn't buy out of the contract because SHSU helped them out. A 2015 FBS game hasn't been scheduled yet but I'd be willing to bet one gets scheduled soon enough. I get that this is a UND site and everything GT does is evil but may I ask why aren't you guys upset with BF for rejecting GTs first offer? Those games wouldve already been played and the days of this same old pissing match would've been long over.

If I'm not mistaken, UND's president overspent as well. I believe we also read in the newspaper not to long ago about a UND player beating an RA unconcious while intoxicated. Lets not forget the incident of the UND player holding a knife to his ex-girlfriends throat. Keep pointing fingers and act like there's none pointing back. All schools and programs have issues.

No thank you

I didn't mean it that way I apologize. IMO NDSU was used to having the luxury of having more scholly money than alot of the other D2 schools in the day. When the NCAA reduced the maximum number they didnt have the luxury of that extra money to throw around. They struggled to adapt. Look at it as excuses. I'm just trying to explain as to why it wasn't pure arrogance as some like to think.

No I don't. Combo of reduced D2 scholarships, university president less than excited about athletics, mistake of an AD and a coach unwilling to adapt to the new playing field. Not discrediting anything UND did in the 90's and early 2000's. They had some good teams no doubt. Thomas started a good thing and Lennon capitalized off of it. There were many factors that led to NDSU falling stagnant. I guess to some its only arrogance but I think those opinions may be skewed by their hatred for the others program and school.

Wow...

I don't have an opinion on who the better prospect is but this is the other DE already committed: http://bisonation.info/de-stanley-jones-bismarcknd-2014-verbal/

Actually David the records don't exactly tell the whole story. NDSU wasn't even close to being evenly matched with UND until the early 60's. NDSU was half the size and had half the budget that UND had. Once NDSU became funded and developed as a university did the two schools become evenly matched. UND fans have a hard time understanding that before the 60's UND had the lions share of the attention and support from the state. NDAC was just an after thought scrambling for the table scraps. If those all time records against NDSU makes you all warm and fuzzy inside about UND right now then keep staring at them. It obviously helps Wayne Nelson...Haha. Fact is that the majority of those wins were against a small ag college with hardly a pot to piss in back before most of us were even born.

Agreed. My apologies.

I do believe a Gopher fan ended up in the hospital after a Hockey game in GF. I don't think that has happened in Fargo. No video shots of NDSU fans flipping off opposing teams players, or puching holes in walls at arena's either, it goes both ways. Every fanbase has their idiots. Nice bailout by bringing Lakes into the conversation BTW. You are the Lakes of UND on the internet. Just not aggressive like stupid Sam. You called out NDSU fans for talking smack and having nothing better to do when I can find your name all over the web doing the exact same thing. I just found it funny that you would even type something like that and not even think about the stuff that you have posted in the past.

I could compile quite a list of NDSU smack from you on AGS, CS.com, Bison Media Blog (yes, we all know you post there), and this website. You may not have started some of those threads but it's all over the web. I shouldn't have posted that comment but it gave me a good chuckle at work. You say other people will talk smack and that they have nothing better to do. I thought you were explaining yourself there for a second.

Forgive me but I find this really amusing coming from you.

The risk is too great. He has stated that the conference schedule alone is enough to prepare for the playoffs. He frequently calls it a meat grinder. I've heard him say he'd take the extra week off to rest and prepare over the potential for profit and experience gained with a 12th game.

Gene Taylor has already hinted that the Prairie View $200,000 game is getting really close to the cap that they can afford. He has talked of scheduling alliances between conferences allowing fans to see a variety of opponents. An ideal schedule would be in one year having a cream puff, FBS and a FCS power conference team. With the following year having a cream puff, FBS and UND. NDSU fans want 6 home games now but we all know it can't continue. 6 home games are what the fans want right now and that is what he has been able to do so far and it has been working well. A 12th game isn't going to happen while Craig Bohl is head coach both he and Taylor have publicly stated that many times. That is why I said that NDSU isn't going to be very willing to change that formula too much. I don't know too many that don't want this game. Just not as frequently as you guys do. If we play in the same conference again then we can play annually. You guys want to change everything that NDSU has been doing scheduling wise and expect everyone to be ok with it. NDSU fans are trying to say that we'll play you but you aren't going to tell us how we are going to go about doing that. If you don't like our offer we will look elsewhere. This isn't the DII days when this was a must for both schools budgets. UND now has their big named conference teams coming to GF and NDSU has thier big named conference teams coming to Fargo.

I don't discredit him for doing what he thinks is best for his football program. Just as UND fans shouldn't discredit Taylor for doing what he thinks is best for his. What Faison has been demanding is what UND fans truly want. There aren't many NDSU fans that truly want an annual game right now. I respect your first choice but many of us don't agree with it. What you are forgetting in all of this is that the people who attend FB games at NDSU don't want the scenario you laid out. Yes, it is easy to make it happen but its not easy to tell people who want one thing that they are going to do another. NDSU has a formula that they prefer to follow and as of right now it seems to be working quite well for them. I don't see them changing too much of that anytime soon.

The first game would've been played already if Faison hadn't refused the every other year offer that Taylor sent him. Now we have to wait until 2015 for the first game that is the same every other year plan that was first offered by NDSU.

The playoff games were sold out. They had to eliminate seats for the TV crews and some of the tickets weren't included in the total. I was told the number announced was the total that the public paid.

Actually that rule was in place before both UND and NDSU's Presidents houses went over budget.

The public may make it worse but the problem will be fixed one way or another. I am not the type that gets a thrill watching this disaster. I wanted this name dropped a long time ago. I do not want this to continue on after June I assure you. You and your friends have been pointing fingers and blaming everyone for a very long time. Some are still blaming he NCAA and Al Carlson without mentioning themselves. Now that you have painted yourselves into a corner you start telling others to quit pointing fingers and assigning blame?