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I like Kelly, he is the majority of why I listen to the 360 podcasts. What is he going to do, call out Bubba and Danny with Bubba's brother sitting right there? Guessing that wouldn't work well with future podcasts. I like Shannon too, but there is definitely no questions coaching decisions there either, at least not vocally, and lets be honest, what is going to be achieved by doing so on the podcast? Regardless, I like the insight. Love listening to their show every week.

I'd have almost felt better if we had lost by two scores. Tougher pill to swallow when you beat yourselves. Not to take away from what USD has done this year, but between ST and Def (for the most part) UND should have won this game. Questionable play calling is still my number one factor in this one. Stop throwing outside for 1 yard and stop running off the edge against this defense. Run it up the middle, chew the clock, convert using 3 or 4 downs. Basically, mimic our 1st drive of the day (less the INT). They may be the #6 team in the country, but if we don't shoot ourselves in the foot, we are the #7 or 8 team in the country. Instead we are on the bubble, in a do or die situation, without a seed, staring at a 7-4 record...AGAIN! I disagree with some people about plenty with people on here who have chirped this, but it would be nice to see another step forward. NOW TO SEE THE POSITIVE: We also should have won a game, on the road, against a top FCS team. IF we crawl into the playoffs, we are going to need to do this, so if we learn from our mistakes, who knows what will happen. UND has shown they can play with top teams (not consistently, but they can do it). We could very well end up back in Vermillion or Brookings at some point, or possible in MT. All of which will be tough venues. Have to dial it up and figure it out.

Makes me wonder what we could have done with that transfer that went to Youngstown. I believe he was a smaller guy, but electric. Need a Hoosman or Oliveira type though.

Would love to hear him really let it all out!

DUDE, READ! I've already apologized twice. Just get sick of some of your same BS on here. Enough already! And fine, if you think hockey blows, don't watch it. I personally like it, as do all the other fans packing the Ralph and paying for NCHC subscriptions. Who the hell cares? I'm not a huge fan of pro soccer, but the rest of the world sure loves that. Who cares?

Truth is we are aligned with our frustrations. It definitely sucks to watch this program consistently trip over itself. I'd argue that we have actually improved our recruiting (still need more and better), but we can't get out of our own way with other stupid stuff.

Do you read? I already said you're not an idiot, just sick of your same old BS. Also recognized that someone may bring up hockey because they want to see a team that wins. UND has definitely had some down years with hockey, but I don't think you even want to compare program success; even in the past ten years. Besides you don't need to like hockey, you also don't need to bash on it in a football thread.

Absolutely. Not touting it as being the most popular, just making the argument that the majority of the country doesn't "hate it". And even so, college hockey may have a smaller market, but the fans that watch still like it. If he doesn't care for it, nobody is forcing him to watch it. He can shut up and be miserable over the football loss.

And we kept it damn close having only scored 14. Any miniscule showing of offense would have gotten the job done today. Would have also helped to be able to hold a team on 2nd or 3rd and a mile. It is unbelievable how bad that looks. That being said, the defense did plenty of other great things. INT in the end zone was nice and the forced fumble was a thing of beauty. Just hope some of these talented players don't transfer out because of incompetence in the staff. I don't say that lightly, but you can't help but question coaches costing us games. It has happened a few too many times in the past few seasons.

If it were that simple, I'd have been a genius a long time ago. No, you're not an idiot. Just get sick of your same BS all the time on here. Football loses because of their own stupidity, so lets bash hockey. Like wtf does that have to do with anything? Sure someone says, at least we still have hockey. People want to watch winners! They didn't get it with football, they're more optimistic about the team that has been more consistent. I'm sorry football can't do it, I wish they could, but they get in their own way. Go cry about it.

You're an idiot. You don't have to like hockey. Not sure where you get the majority of the country doesn't like hockey though. No, its not as popular as football. Not much it. Still doesn't have anything to do with this thread or today's game.

Its not like Tommy can't run a bit either. We saw him do it last year and take it when it was there. Seems like his mental game has regressed a bit. I'm not going to hate on Tommy like some people on here, he has done some tremendous things during his time, but has clearly displayed his limitations as well. I'm all for him moving on and seeing what our next QBs up can do with their opportunities. Though it is funny how many teams with productive QBs complain about them. There have been complaints about Bouman and certainly around Cam Mattress Miller. So it isn't just UND. All of this being said, if Feeney or Jerry don't get it done, we will all be eating some crow in the next few seasons. I think there is some talent there though. Any if not, maybe some of our fans can watch the game, sitting on their bike, from the catwalk. Might be a good luck charm.

Haha, he's a pouty child that throws a tantrum when things don't go his way. That being said, I'm pissed about this loss. But I'm more pissed at the football team (ahem, football coaches)

Maybe, but thats not a game anyone can totally blame on officiating. I'd be more concerned with the missed holding calls, but still. And if they are going to call BS PI calls, then maybe we need to take some shots and see if we can get them too.

Best example to contradict this mentality is Pat Shurmur and Case Keenum. Pat adjusted his offense to work with his tool, rather than trying to force his tools to do something they weren't capable of. Bottom line is if Danny sticks to the run, we win this game. We would have had points in the first rather than throwing the INT (whether it be a TD or FG) and we would have had a much better chance at the end of the game. USD was making some stops, but not consistently. You have strong run blockers on the O line and chose to throw the ball into the flats and try to run around the edge. PxP and the commentator called it, USD was ranked as a top tackling team. We hadn't beat them in space all game, what did he think was going to change?

Not sure that is called for, but whatever. I'm pissed that football lost too, but wtf does that have to do with people liking hockey. They aren't wrong, at least that program hasn't had perennial letdowns. Some, but not nearly what we have had to deal with in football.

I'm guessing Z was still limited based on how little we saw of him, but Smith was running it just fine up the gut. We just stopped calling it. Danny gets a little too pass happy and want to score immediately. Might work against bad team, but can't do that against a good defense. Also needed more out of our receivers. Even when Tommy had time, nobody would get open. Did we even throw to the middle of the field today? I keep hearing that Caden Dennis is some speedster, but I haven't seen it. Makes catches and takes some hard hits, but I'm not overly impressed.

Absolutely pathetic! Everything to play for. Couldn't have had a better start. Defense actually played well outside of a few plays (unreal how many time we allow team to convert when they are backed up a mile). Tommy is a good QB that can't seem to get it done in big games. I don't know why, not sure what it is, but he looks so timid out there when we play a decent opponent. Not that all of the blame can go to Tommy. Is someone else calling plays when we play good teams? I've got some serious questions for anyone who thinks Danny is the heir apparent and ready to take over this program. His situation play calling is horrendous! Second to the last drive with plenty of time on the clock and we throw three straight passes. Passing into the flats hasn't worked all day, maybe stop doing it. What happened to committing to the run and running between the tackles. I get that Z was still limited, but we seemed to be finding room early in the game. Plus, in a do or die situation you have 4 downs to work with and if you can get 8 or 8 1/2 you bring in Q to do what he does. Unfortunately, I'm not convinced at all that we will win next week and could easily be on the outside looking in. Illinois St just pummeled Murray; I guess I'm glad its a home game. And even if we do win, we are likely going on the road first round, or at the very best get 1 home game. Could have had a seed, but just can't get it done. Also see UNI is getting beat up by Misery St. and Salukis are tied with SU. It'll be a weird playoff field, but this team definitely pissed away a terrific opportunity.

Just rewatched that part but still didn't see it.

Shout out to the UMD broadcast though. Far better than it has been in the past. I was ready for a drunk hockey fan color commentating the game. This was a huge improvement over what they used to do. Decent PxP and far less biased than what I'm used to hearing from UMD.

I wonder if we finally see Romfo make a throw this week. Seems like they have been building up to it all year.

Games and team matchups are not all comparable. Way to many factors in a game, but lets look at the below numbers. UND's defense has struggled recently and given up way to many points to Murray and Indiana St. #10 and #12 in Offense (Yikes). Though they certainly played well against NDSU, and held on for a while against UNI (could have used some help from the offense in that one). Actually the defense looked fine for the first half of both the Murray and the ISU game (Need to put together a full game). Our offense hasn't had to face many top defenses yet, so the next two weeks will shed some light on how we can perform in the playoffs. Obviously we rocked the Bison and put 21 on the bunnies. I have a hard time believe UNI is a middle of the pack defense, but that game seems to be a bit of an anomaly. Did we play that bad? Did they play that well? Was there a hangover from the NDSU win? Can we just not play on the road? A bit of everything? Huge factor for me this week will be playcalling. Kelly alluded to some of the defense play calls against Murray (ahem 4th and 25). And as much as I like Danny, he has had some very questionable calls against good opponents and in key situations as well. I have no clue what to expect this week. Do we get a shock and keep the offense churning with a big win? Do we get blown out? Is it a tight low scoring game? Is it a barn burner? No idea, but looking forward to watching!

Its not a bad prediction. UND struggles in Vermillion. USD has looked really good this year. UND defense has looked really shaky. Its just a prediction. What team shows up in Vermillion? or I should say "What Defense?" Offense has been awesome recently. Hoping Tommy and company can keep it going and really hoping having Z back will help out and allow us to control the clock as well. This isn't SDSU and is far from a guaranteed loss. Hoping for a win obviously, but will be extremely disappointed if we see a lethargic unmotivated team out there. This team has everything to play for so if Bubba can't get them motivated there is a major red flag. Hoping that is not the case. Would be great to see the defense we saw against NDSU, and the offense we have seen lately.

Any insight on why UND has so much trouble getting guys with legit size on the D line? Seems like this conversation has been going on forever. Are we not targeting the right guys, or not able to add enough weight to some of them? What would you say should be a target size for those guys? 275 DE and 300-310 Nose? I really have not clue what is ideal. Obviously height and frame is a factor too.

I remember being at that game. What a stop!