jdub27

The sad reality is that you won't win with those that don't care about the University or the sanctions/ramifications that the athletic department have and will continue to face. It will be a continuously moving target as we have seen already. First it was "other schools are bluffing, nothing will happen". Since that statement has been proven false (Iowa WBB, Iowa track, MN and WI hockey, etc), it has changed to "those aren't that big of deal" or "it is only a few schools". As it becomes more and more prevalent, the target on "what is worth it" to those that don't care will continue to move until it is too late, because that is the thing, they don't care what the ramifications are as as they can keep a nickname/moniker.

I was just thinking that its unfortunate that this guy is serious. Otherwise this would have been one of the more epic troll jobs I've seen in a long time. I am convinced that there is some relation to JohnboyND7, brothers or cousins perhaps?

I hope you are joking. If not, you have a lot of reading and understanding to do. I would prefer the University of North Dakota be associated with other Universities like Montana, Montana State, Cal-Poly, UC-Davis, Minnesota, Wisconsin, etc. A game is not a game. Playoff guidelines for sports are very clear about that.

No. And yes, know her quite well (personally, not professionally). What's your point? You are kind of all over the map. Very few here are happy about changing the nickname. But, at this point it is what is best for the University. And that is unfortunate that you don't want anything to do with talking about a new nickname, but most of us are concerned and know that the choosing of a new nickname can't be put in the wrong people's hands.

Most people feel this way. And like Hakstol, Faison, Kelley, O'Keefe, etc, most people also realize that keeping is not worth the known and potential costs to the student-athletes, athletic department and University of North Dakota.

What you should say is "you stopped the rivalry before we did" excuse. If UND wouldn't have dropped the rivalry when they did, NDSU would dropped it a few years later once NDSU was in a conference and didn't have have as many games to schedule. They weren't going to keep playing UND when it didn't help them out. UND would not still be on NDSU's schedule if UND wouldn't have dropped the game (which at the time, was to UND's benefit to do because of how the playoff selections worked).

Someday NDSU will figure out dynamic pricing for single game tickets. It won't replace all the lost income, but it would make up for a chunk of it.

Quite certain that it would have to be someone else taking the lead on this. I don't think that UND can spend money politically lobbying on a constitutional amendment. Or at least spend taxpayer money on it.

Rob Port, along with Carlson and others, continue to let slip what their real intention is behind the support given for the petitions and nickname fight. As I've stated multiple times, his crusade is one against Higher Ed and taking it down. The UND nickname is the first thing that he's been able to harp on that has got the attention he has wanted. While I hate to give more hits to his website, this is exactly what he has going for all along. He wants the SBoHE to screw up or make a mistake to get the public to go against them ultimately leading to their demise. He has no concern of leaving UND or its athletic department in ashes. Those of you who think he's leading you are being led astray. He may say the right things, but his end game is much different than yours.

I was thinking more like the Elmer's Glue logo.

Boy those guys are good! They even managed to trick Tim O'Keefe.

This has nothing to do with UND dropping the nickname. The Spirit Lake lawsuit will go on regardless. Why do you continuously keep trying to connect dots that are in different books?

You mean he's listening to those who have the most to lose? Or maybe he actually understands the ramifications and is trying to protect the University?

As I earlier stated, this is exactly what needs to happen. Those that are in a position to lay it out and discredit the half-truths others have been spreading are finally doing so. This is a serious matter and I'm not sure how many more people need to make that clear. So far Faison, Fullerton and now O'Keefe have laid it out. That clearly won't be enough for some, but I'm behind this move.

Great move on their part. Can't wait to hear O'Keefe discredited now as well...

One small correction. Someone correct me if I am wrong, but UND is not, nor has it been for a while, on the hostile & abusive list. They were taken off that quite a few years ago. They are now considered a program under sanctions by the NCAA. Not a big difference, but a notable one.

You think one president is going to hang himself out on a limb for a school that isn't even a full member rather than show solidarity with the other presidents?

How about doing the right thing for the University of North Dakota?

Agreed 100%. But he finally found a pawn in his game that gets him the attention that he wants for his crusade against Higher Ed. And destroying UND in his quest is of no concern to him.

Most of us are. We are fighting for the University of North Dakota. It is blatantly obvious you aren't.

Even better. Rob Port is now flat out calling the Big Sky out on whether or not they will drop UND. Says it is put up or shut up time. This could not be a worse move. I truly hope that Kelley and Faison are reassuring Fullerton and other Big Sky presidents that this is being taken care of. I feel very, very uncomfortable for non-stakeholders making claims and pushing for decisions that seriously impact my alma mater.

Al Carlson did not take a stand for any moral reasons, it was for political capital and to take down the SBoHE.

If you read his rebuttals to some of the comments, his agenda all along becomes blatantly clear. He signed on with Carlson to use this as a pawn in their quest to take down the SBoHE. It is no secret the disdain of many for it and they don't care if UND athletics are destroyed in their quest to take out the SBoHE.

Fixed it for you. The playoff field was expanded from 16 to 20 in 2010.

You mean despicable by wanting to stick to a settlement agreement that was signed and agreed to by both them and UND?