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Enlighten us please. I wasn't at all happy how he left, when he left, what he left us with, and who he took with him. Please tell my why, as a die hard Sioux football fan, I should not hold a grudge?

You are right, all levels have changed over the last 40 years and yet we are back to where it was in the 70's hense with a different name. Today we call it FCS, in 1975 we called it DII. I like where we were in 1975 and I liked the teams in our division then. I also like where we are now and the teams in our division now. I did not like the division we were in 15 years ago...most of those teams are still DII and some had just moved up from DIII...we were better then that and we proved it in the 60's/70's and are proving it now, back where we belong with our peers from the 70's. Do I think it taints Dale's record because we were a big fish in a small pond when he was our coach in DII? To a degree, yes. Although it hadn't changed much in the NCC, most of our peers from the rest of DII had moved up to 1AA/FCS and we had some advantages being a big school in DII at that time.

huh? Yes the majority of these teams did leave in 70's and 80's, hense my quote that said today's FSC is the 1970's DII. I also said we were late to follow our peers to 1AA/FCS. The teams we played in the 90's, 2000's are still DII, the teams we play now we're DII In the 70's. Where did I want to say I wish we were in the SEC? We are where we belong, back with our 'like' programs from the 70's. Read the post before you post...

most of the NCC was intact but a lot of the former national powers were long gone...Montana, Montana State, Boise State, eastern Illinois, Texas State, Western Kentucky, Deleware, Jacksonville State, Youngstown State, Portland State, Lehigh, Central Michigan, New Hampshire, Northern Iowa, UNLV, Louisiana Tech, Grambling State, Western Illinois, Appalachian State, McNeese State, New Mexico, New Mexico State, UMass, Northern Arizona, Akron, Nevada, Idaho, Idaho State. We were very late to the FSC party. Today's FCS is 1970's DII and don't let any Bison fan tell you different.

not sure what is so bizarre about that...maybe Kill is just a better coach and recruiter period. Dale was coaching in his backyard at a time when a lot of the d2 powers were leaving for FCS. He struggled for what ever reasons in his first job away from home.

Lennon was 31-37 last 6 years with his guys...he did well with Jerry Kills guys first couple years...no way SD or Montana St hires a guy with that record that never won anything in the FCS...how would you sell that hire to your fan base?..they don't care what his D2 record was 10 years ago at UND.

I don't I want to hear about injuries, everyone has them. UND can't lose that game yesterday in that fashion...just can't period. They lost to a team that is on a four game losing streak, playing on the road for the fourth consecutive week, having given up an average of 63.3 points the last three weeks! We blew a 15 point lead in the 4th quarter in our homecoming game. We threw our defensive philosophy of attacking the QB out the window which is baffling...for those of you that want to tell me we did so because of injuries, please tell me how did that new defensive scheme work for us?

Someone please tell me why we played such a soft defense? Why no blitzing? Why didn't we try to jam the receivers on the line? We couldn't cover them so why not be more aggressive? We really made it very easy for their QB and offense. Everybody knew we would have trouble with pass coverage so why not try to disrupt their timing? That, to me, was extremely disappointing!

99% of the Fighting Sioux crowd love it. If the Fighting Sioux name, without any NCAA sanctions, was put up against the other 5 names in a mythical election it would win in a landslide of 90% or more. That said, it's a slam dunk that if this Fighting Hawk logo were to become the official logo, that name would win easily. I personally like it because it not only looks cool but is a very easy transition from the last logo to this logo. REA (and a lot of UND fans gear) would not look out of date as it will with any other logo. There is no way the NCAA could have sanctions against this logo as a bird with feathers can have feathers. I don't think the powers that be will have the stomach to incorporate this logo because they are tired of the controversy but it would be awesome if they did have the guts to pursue this as it is truly a great logo. I also realize that it may be copyrighted but a few adjustments would take care of that (see Black Hawks logo and the logo we had pre 1992, same but feathers different colors)

I really think choosing a name without knowing what the logo will be is very difficult. If the hawk in the feathers was the logo I think Fighting Hawks wins easily (UND BIZ: please tell us one more time that there is no chance). Think of the Fighting Sioux logos...Blackhawk logo and Ben Brien's logo were awesome while the geometric logo was very lame. Every nickname can be upgraded with a great logo and can be downgraded with a poor logo. Who will determine the logo of the winning name? Will there be another vote on this? Scary to think of what logo may be chosen by the same pin heads that gave us these 5 finalists for names!

Let's play old time university of North Dakota 'Hawkey'...its gaining steam...

The logo is just as important as the name and this logo is very good. I wasn't big on the Fighting Hawks name but this logo makes it acceptable. I think it could be a good compromise...it looks like the Ben Brien logo with a hawk face...it is also basically the same logo as the Chicago Black Hawks bird logo that is sometimes used; only difference is the color of the feathers. If you remember, our Indian head logo worn until the 90's was the exact same logo as The Black Hawks except for the color of the feathers so it also harkens back to that tradition and we are a hockey school so I like that too. Fighting Hawks is not a Native American name...no way the NCAA can have an issue with it. Another reason I like it: it will not make the logos in the Ralph look obsolete like rough riders or any other team logo would...this logo would actually be an extension of the Sioux logo just like the Black Hawks bird logo is an extension of their Indian head logo. All in all it is very cool looking and ties into our past nicely.

This logo may be a good compromise for all...

This logo could be the best compromise for all of us...

Bubba and Bubbs leading the way back to the glory days of Sioux Sports! Next hire: Bubbles from Trailer Park Boys!

Here is your market prices...very hot ticket with BU and Providence in final... https://m.stubhub.com/2015-ncaa-frozen-four-championship-game-4-11-2015-9153055/event/9153055/?pgeo=674&s_tnt=65825:9:0

Any North Dakota fans thinking of selling Championship tickets...average price is $600+ ...do not sell for less then $300 if balcony or less then $500 lower bowl...do not feed the scalpers trying to buy for $100 to sell at these prices ...be smart people and get your fair market value...

I believe that number is 600...from what I was told...300 for UND (team, parents, band, staff, administration) and 300 for fans (150 to charter and 150 to Champions Club members)

I agree 100%. Typical NCAA control freaks trying to control everything they can. Here is the simple solution...if a 20,000 seat arena, pre-sell 15,000 tickets to the general public and give the remaining 5000 tickets to the 4 schools in the frozen four (1250 tickets per school). If any school does not use their allotted 1250 tickets then give those tickets to schools that need more for their fan base. Is it really this hard to figure out?

How many tickets did UND actually get? I was told that they only made it through priority #225 before they ran out. I am sure that not everyone within 1-225 requested tickets, surely not all 225 are going to Boston. Also, I have not heard of anyone that got more then 2. It is a real head scratcher why the NCAA wouldn't allot more tickets to the teams in the tournament...it also irritates me that our administration doesn't do a better job to secure more tickets for its fan base and is comfortable letting us take it in the shorts buying tickets on the street. I don't want to hear any BS sticking up for our administration either...it's not like we haven't been through this just about every other year for the last 18 years. Surely there are ways to secure more tickets if they actually tried...they don't try, that is why I don't want to hear the BS...

I just need one ticket for the Frozen Four...I will take just Thursday ticket if available but would prefer both games. Text 701-739-5623 if you have one for sale at a decent price.

GF started a AA bantam team this year. They are they best 16 kids...put 8 of those kids each of the A teams that compete at the state tourney and they both dominate and easily beat all teams in ND...wouldn't even be close