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Yet another comparison: Jeff Panzer 46 games, 26 goals, 55 assists, 81 points - no Hobey Baker Ryan Duncan 43 games, 31 goals, 26 assists, 57 points - Hobey Baker It's certainly not an exact science. Honestly, I have no idea how the selection is made after viewing the last three posts.

Just for the fun of it, I wanted to post Jeff Panzer's stats next to those of this year's Hobey finalists. Ryan Jones 42 games, 31 goals, 18 assists, 49 points Kevin Porter 42 games, 33 goals, 29 assists, 62 points Nathan Gerbe 41 games, 30 goals, 30 assists, 60 points Jeff Panzer 46 games, 26 goals, 55 assists, 81 points OK, obviously Jeff played 4 or 5 more games than those three, but in terms of PPG average, it's still an overwhelming disparity: Ryan Jones .74 goals per game, .43 assists per game, 1.17 points per game Kevin Porter .79 goals per game, .69 assists per game, 1.48 points per game Nathan Gerbe .73 goals per game, .73 assists per game, 1.46 points per game Jeff Panzer .57 goals per game, 1.20 assists per game, 1.76 points per game Like I said earlier, I don't think JPL not making the final cut is as big a travesty as Jeff Panzer not winning the award in 2001.

I am an obviously biased Sioux fan and also feel that Jeff Panzer deserved the Hobey Baker award in 2001, however, stats don't lie. Let's compare: Games played: Ryan Miller 40 JPL 41 (and counting) Record: Ryan Miller 31-5-4 JPL 27-10-4 (and counting) Saves: Ryan Miller 1,024 JPL 983 (and counting) GAA: Ryan Miller 1.32 JPL 1.64 Those statistics are very similar. However, in 2001, we're screaming that Jeff Panzer got robbed. Now, in 2008, we're saying a goalie with similar stats to the goalie who won the Hobey in 2001 got robbed. We can't have it both ways. By the way, I bolded the number of saves to refute a comment made by the previous poster.

Not even close to the best of the best, Upper Deck! And, although he was well-known for his huge 'fro underneath his teeny hat, Oscar Gamble had quite the 'stache himself!

Dude, is that Ron Jeremy...or Stan Van Gundy?

I'm actually mulling over the idea of taking the train to Williston, having my dad pick me up there, then meet you all in Belfield when Al's bus rolls thru. That might be a photo finish though, especially if there's any trouble with Amtrak that might cause a delay. By my estimation, you'll be in Belfield at 12 noon Wednesday, which is actually 11 am local time thanks to the time change by New Salem. Just in time for lunch at Trapper's Kettle. Deadwood's another 3-4 hours south of Belfield.

Ugh...I'm still jumping thru hoops trying to put this all together. I swear, right now, it looks like Planes, Trains, and Automobiles Part II! Drive to Fargo, park my car, and board the Sioux bus there? Take the train to Williston, then get to Belfield and board the bus there? No tickets? That's a big sticking point.

I agree totally, AZSIOUX. There is NO WAY Phoenix lets Wheeler get away.

Choke collar for Miami? What game were you watching? Miami dominated that game in OT and it took an exceptional play from BC to win it. Outside of defining 'class,' 'choke' is the most over-used term in sports today.

You're not way too optimistic...have you checked out th uscho.com Frozen Four shop yet? The items for sale there have the Sioux logo on them, not the ND. They also have the drunken Fighting Irishman logo too. Frozen Four T-Shirts! Frozen Four Hood Sweatshirt

My all-time favorite sign was held up by a UND law student immediately after the horn sounded in the 1997 title game victory over BU. Priceless. I JUST PEED MY PANTS!

I personally think Duncan's goal was the better of the two. I mean, Duncan made an incredible play that only a player like Duncan could make. What an unreal goal by Ryan Duncan. Oh, wait, we may have called that wrong. It was Andrew Kozek. Nice work, ESPNU dolts.

There's another tribute to you on the wall of the men's room too. No reply back yet from my dad regarding hopping on the bus in Belfield...

You mean Trapper's Kettle?

You do realize that Belfield is my hometown, right? Sad, but true. Highway 85 runs from the Canadian border all the way south to the Black Hills. I've been on that route many times. Anyways, I am asking because the return-trip is most important. I'm trying to talk my dad into going on the trip with me - I'd have to drive to Fargo to catch the bus and he would board in Belfield. If the return-trip is different, that causes some issues.

I was waiting for this post, YaneA. I believe the bus is heading west on I-94 and then taking the Belfield exit and Highway 85 south, correct? Is the return trip following the exact same route?

GeauxSioux, I'm guessing Teeder is a reference to former Fighting Sioux player Teeder Wynne. Teeder's Bio on HockeyDB.com

I doubt it. Probably a U of M student wearing red because he hates the Sioux so much.

I think you're grossly over-estimating the number of Pioneer fans in attendance.

I believe I noticed one at the Final Five for the DU game. My Gopher buddy noticed Oshie's was missing during the CC game.

Wow. I passed on making the trip for Sunday's game because I figured tickets would be hard to come by thanks to Wisconsin's win against Denver on Saturday. Apparently there were thousands of good seats still available. I think the ESPNU announcers commented a dozen times last night "the atmosphere here is unbelievable." Gee, a regional game where the home team is playing. Whooda thunk the atmosphere would be loud?

Unbelievable 3rd period and OT. I know a knock on Hakstol's teams over the past four years was that record when going into the 3rd period whent he team was behind. Great hustle, great grit, and great heart tonight, boys. Special thanks to Sioux-cia for driving up from Mankato and joining MafiaMan Jr and me at Joe Senser's in Bloomington. Now I need to figure out how to get to Denver...

I don't want to say "I told you so" with respect to the CCHA, but I'm getting close...

I'll be there too with MafiaMan Jr. If someone wants me to save a seat for them, you have about 20 minutes to PM me.

I actually think it's a GOOD thing that Notre Dame has made the Frozen Four. College hockey is a niche market sport and maybe some success for the Golden Domers will give our great game a little more exposure. Congratulations Fighting Irish!