MafiaMan

Short-term loss...long-term gain. You want to deal with 500 people attending football games and 3,000 attending hockey games for a few seasons...or would you prefer to have UND continue to be dragged thru the mud on a daily basis on TV, the newspapers, and the interwebs, watch student enrollment drop, and the name-brand "University of North Dakota" continue to be de-valued? See also: Penn State.

And Ralph said the Fighting Sioux name and logo would live on forever. Has THAT changed? Kelley could whip up a policy reversal quicker than you can say "extenuating circumances" or "in light of recent events...".

What's the Alerus going to do to stay somewhat profitable if UND threatens to move football games unless a clothing ban is instituted? Invite Warrant to play a couple shows this fall? A tractor pull? Monster Jam? If UND says "kick out anyone wearing a Sioux logo," the folks at the Alerus are going to respond with "YES SIR!".

I don't know what they can ban...but obviously an outright ban is what these people want.

So privately-owned facilities can't force you to wear certain types of clothing or throw you out for wearing certain types of clothing. As a test-run of this theory, I'm going to see if Oxbow6 will wear his man-kini to church on Sunday and see if he's asked to leave.

http://abcnews.go.co...ory?id=23701299 But these weren't UND students...doesn't matter. That's what EVERYONE believes now. The genie is out of the bottle. But that's not UND's logo (it's not a &^%$ing mascot for crying out lout)...doesn't matter...it's an Indian with a beer funnel, therefore, it belongs to UND. And now it's pictured next to ANOTHER t-shirt that the story implies was also from "UND's Springfest." Groan... I'll say it again (and again and again and again)...the truth absolutely does not matter. This story is making national and even world headlines...and you think Kelley's short statement released the other day is going to appease the mob? It's not.

http://lastrealindia...r-erich-longie/ "...that happened at UND over the weekend." And now an explosive charge of a professorship at UND being offered in exchange for a viewpoint change? Here's comes a UND investigation. So, does UND sit and wait another 5, 10, 15, maybe 20 years before the die-hard alumni who wear Sioux jerseys just fade away into oblivion? Or does UND take a new, dramatic step of cutting the snake off at the head and banning the display and wearing of Sioux jerseys or t-shirts at sporting events? Will you be in the "I'll never attend another game at UND if that happens" crowd and burn your season tickets? Or will you suck it up and find something else to wear to the game when the football team is 8-0 and ranked #1 in the country heading into a home game against the Bison, the women's basketball team is hosting a conference championship game, or the hockey team is on a 15-game home winning streak and Minnesota comes to town? Are you going to stay away based on loyalty to a dead nickname and logo?

I would like to share your optimism, CMSioux, but the bad information contained in almost every online story (including the GF Herald) seems to spice this up - UND students...UND's Springfest...UND's former logo with a beer funnel added...THAT's what people are going to read and assume to be the truth.

Oh, I think naming the school after a group of Yankees who killed Spaniards on foreign soil is likely to be met with some opposition by UND's academia nuts who will no doubt occupy a good portion of the new nickname committee. They'll find a Spaniard who is offended by the term "Rough Riders"...

The calls to end the Fighting Sioux nickname and logo existed when the logo was the same as Chicago's. I'm comparing UND's Blackhawk to Chicago's...one can't be offensive while the other is an honor since they are the exact same thing.

Hey, Cooke, you might wanna pick up that Kane guy...nevermind...

Take off the hockey helmet and Toews looks a tad Amish with that "beard"...

http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=5614 Old logo modified with a beer funnel...UND's Springfest...the mis-information is so bad but that doesn't matter...

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/12/1298869/-This-is-what-Indians-still-have-to-put-up-with Check out the comments...

Al-Jazeera...but there's no question that this incident is blowing up.

Gopher fans love Parise now...Sioux fans love Haula...sheesh, everyone hold hands and sing "Kumbaya"...

Thank you Rangers!

The Brien logo is a caricature but the Blackhawk logo is not? HUH?

Hmnnnn...wasn't somebody saying that that was a very REAL possibility earlier today?

Nevermind a band...they'll only need a single bugler...playing "Taps."

fightingsioux4life...is this loud enough for you yet?

President Obama is on-record as saying that the Redskins should change their name...why is he silent regarding the Blackhawks?

..and here we go again... I hate you infinity because I hate the Penguins. Oh yea? Well I hate you back infinity + 1 because I hate the Bruins.

In what context of the word did you mean "spirit," Ray77? I hope it wasn't Native-American related...

Well, yea, that's why it'll never happen, right? Right?