Bison06

Pretty clear statement, what’s the confusion?

When it comes to politics and these athletes, either all of it is ok or none of it is. So you’d be ok if a UND hockey player wrote something about supporting the CCP or Kim Jong Un?

The spokesperson for the health system was on this morning and he said this is all as a direct result of losing elective surgeries for months.

Nice twist. I, of course, did. They may not have seen it that way is what I’m saying.

If you think every player who knelt at the NDSU game on Saturday fully understand the political history and implications with kneeling during the national anthem and silently protesting, than you are giving 18-22 year old football players way too much credit. If given the opportunity to support my Bison brothers back in the day in a way that would have made them feel like I see them as equals, I would have done it in a heart beat and I hope that the rest of my teammates would have done the same. Those kids have been through some serious things together and likely had some pretty intense conversation revolving around these issues in the last 7 months. I'm glad that they are supporting each other through it.

Well you've made my point without trying. When you speak out and for example put a BLM sticker on your helmet like NDSU did this weekend, people make assumptions about what that means. Maybe you didn't mean it to support a rapist or certain things BLM stands for, you only did it to support your black teammate or promote equality. This is why symbols are so controversial and why posting them as a bumper sticker or a sticker on your helmet can be complicated, people attribute different meanings to symbols and that can lead to massive misunderstandings.

By complex I mean this. What they think they are protesting is noble, I support individuals in their right to bring attention to something they see as a worthy cause. It is complicated by the current NCAA model. The precedented fact that players are representative of the University and therefore not allowed to speak up on their own behalf to make money or political statements. They represent something much larger than themselves and are poorly educated/experienced in how to maneuver these subjects. It's the same reason the mail guy at Amazon doesn't speak for Amazon politically. They leave that to someone whose job it is to speak for the University and/or the Athletic Department.

If that's a serious answer then I'll answer it this way. People can spend their money wherever they like. I am not surprised in the slightest that NDSU players and coaches speaking out on a controversial and incredibly complex subject is drawing criticism and a response.

People like what?

According to the media and some on this forum, we should have access to everything he is taking(if anything), or is this one of those times that "It's Different?"

https://www.lawfareblog.com/public-disclosure-presidential-illnesses-discouraging-history Interesting read and a very detailed history of the president's health over the decades/centuries and the lengths administrations have gone to keep things secret.

That's incorrect. His last negative test is his health information and we don't have access to it as the public.

Because the president's health has never been something we have access to. We don't get to know. If this wasn't a global pandemic virus that Trump contracted and none of the other facts changed(hospitalization, meds, oxygen), the story our of the White House would have been the President was undergoing routine testing this weekend at Walter Reed.

Seriously, what more are you looking for? The color of his sputum, the consistency of his bowel movements? I'm absolutely amazed that they've shared as much information as they have.

Nothing he said precludes businesses from legally being able to run their operations at full capacity or schools being open with a distance learning option for those uncomfortable with in person at this tome. He’s making personal choices based on his own risk tolerance. This is EXACTLY what I, and others, have been advocating for the past six months.

The only solution to your problem is to never go out. Asymptomatic spread is going to be impossible to stop. At some point, this happened for me in about April, people are going to have to decide if the risk of dying is greater than the risk of never experiencing life from this moment forward. Every person needs to decide what their own risk tolerance is and move forward with whatever precautions help you sleep at night. All of us on this side of the discussion would like to do the same without the government closing public places and private businesses for a risk of death and illness that each citizen should make their own decisions about.

Probably?

A bad zombie movie where instead of becoming mindless brain eating monsters, almost none of the people infected would even know without the test being positive. Truly horrifying.

Because if they don't come out with it and supersleuths on the left find out then it's a huge scandal.

This is where I can't get on board with the way people treat Trump as compared to other presidents. The POTUS is the most powerful person in the world. His health is a matter of national security and in many cases a matter that has massive international consequences. We are on a need to know basis as the public and I'm perfectly fine with that.

That decision is pending and will be made later today. The fact that they are even considering it should be incredible news for everyone that he is doing great. Yet, half of our country wants to continue to believe(Hopes) he is going to take a massive turn in the wrong direction because that would justify all of the lockdowns.

Now look up the risks of prednisone. Dexamethasone isn't some super secret, last ditch effort medication. It's prescribed every single day in our country for people with a wide variety of symptoms. He has some of the best doctors in the country looking after his every move, I trust their judgement.

Serious question: are you upset that the president has gotten treatment that has improved his condition and is on track to be discharged today? What point are you trying to make by questioning his treatment and actions?

What risks are you referring to?

Reserved? Dexamethasone is prescribed in a variety of illnesses. To act like the president isn't going to get a different protocol than the general public is naive. They were using the steroids prophylactically, his personal physician addressed this directly.