southpaw
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Ok, I don't want to sound argumentive but where has it been said that Smaby is going to go for sure this season? I am not so sure about this one. Tampa's coach could get fired if they don't make the playoffs so I am not so sure he will be gone. All I am saying is lets not rush Smaby out of here. Granted he might go, but I am saying my prayers and crossing my fingers.
tampa wanted him bad after last year. it doesn't really have as much to do with the coach as with the front office wanting to get him in their system.
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this team reminds me of teams in the past when they hit the playoffs. after a goal, a lot of teams act like they've been there before and thats fine... but i want to see guys acting like they just won the national championship after every goal. that excitement has to get contagious and other players can just feel the excitement and energy.
i love see our guys smiling and really getting into it during the playoffs. it helps take some of the pressure off of being a fan.
thanks again pcm (ps, did you hear about kenny's dog tags in las vegas two weekends ago? pretty special.)
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Did Bochenski get VERY good money for a 7th round pick? I would expect RP to get a VERY good offer this year. If he doesn't get signed and plays out his days at the "U" would RP not be eligible for free agency the summer after graduation?
teams have until august after a player graduates to sign them. this could be incentive for 1) a player to stay all 4 years and 2) get onto a better team or into a better system.
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The tougher route goes to the player that is a lesser player. How many first rounders are there each year anyway? 30. If you can honestly sit behind your computer and say that a 30th pick and 31st pick are not interchangeable your out of your mind. Thats the difference between first and second round, one spot. You don't think maybe a number 65 pick could be better than a 33 pick? The way you see it is, a number one pick is always better than a number 2,3,4,5,6 pick. If that was the case every year the number one overall pick would flourish in the league. But that's not the case, because believe it or not scouts and GM's make mistakes on draft day and I can assure you they make up for it by getting ahold of the right player and putting him in the lineup.
If all were to stay...
Hobey Baker
2006-Ryan Potunly
2007-Danny Irmen
2008-Phil Kessel
2009-Erik Johnson
hahayou call me out for listing just two goaltenders, but then you ask if a 31 v 30 pick is that much better. i'd say a 65 v a 33 is a huge difference, but when you're within 10-15 picks, the skill level is most likely going to be the same. you know what else? taylor chorney played better than brian lee this year. brian lee is the #9 overall pick, chorney is a mid 2nd rounder. I think lee will have an easier time making an NHL lineup than Chorney. This has nothing to do with gophers/sioux... it has everything to do with knowing that when a team only gets one 1st rounder per year, they have a lot of stock in that player. they pay that person a lot of money and no team wants to have a 1st rounder sit in their ahl system and take all that money.
potunly won't get 1st round money, even if he is better than a lot of 1st rounders. he'll get what most draft picks around him make, as bochenski did this year. he will be much more easily sent down, because there isnt a million dollar price tag around his neck. skill can you get into the nhl, but it takes much more effort from a low rounder to overcome the stigma of not having a lot of potential. however, i agree with you that on-ice perfomance can move a player up, like st. louis and others... but there are other players who are handed things (crosby) because they are taken so high and the team has a lot to lose.
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i think i heard somewhere hes been skating in practice;)
i meant steps on the ice on friday night... even if he is practicing, it still leaves a little doubt in mich's mind,
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i wonder how many people on this board will email her requesting a poster.
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and you know what really pisses me off??? That we fought it to have the logos for the west regionals and then we go and take out probably the most important sioux head for the whole freaking weekend! screw the "neutral playing environment" rule. one would think it was an advantage.
the most important sioux head of the regional is the one right below the name on the front of the jerseys.
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This morning DH stills says day-to-day and also said that he gets some funny looks when he says this. Day-to-day 3 days before gametime does seem alittle odd - all we can say is that he is not a for certain scratch - I bet he plays.
he'll be day to day until he steps onto the ice. this gives the sioux the ability to make mich guess whether stafford will play or not. they'll have to prepare a little differently if he is in, but also be prepared in case he isnt.
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Again, the best players will play in the NHL not the highest draft picks. Everyone knows that in most cases the best player for that year goes in the first round. But that does not by any mean say that a guy drafted in the 6th round isn't actually a far superior player (Brett Hull). You don't seem very sure of yourself with all your "most likely's" and your marketing idea. Probably because you have no real factual evidence to support your case, just your own views and nothing more. Who is a better marketing agent, Dany Heatly (first round) or Martin St. Louis (undrafted). Your way to fixated on draft number.
Potulny for Hobey!
You throw out random low draft picks who have made it big, and you act like it's easy for any 6th rounder to make it. These are special people who do special things, but not everyone makes it. Karl Goehring, a free agent outplayed Pascal Leclaire, a #1 draft pick for Columbus, in Syracuse for two years. Anytime there was an opening at the NHL level, they'd promote Leclaire, despite the fact that he would get rocked in his games.
i'm not basing this on a fake knowledge of the nhl. stats buddy.
leclaire
8 21 3 .890 3.56
goehring
18 21 4 .914 2.67
also, I never said that low draft picks can't make it to the nhl... but they have more to prove. They have to overcome a lot more than a higher draft pick has to. Lower draft picks rarely get put on a top line with other super-skilled players, so they have to produce from the 3rd or 4th line. It's like with Kessel this year. Put him on a line with Irmen and Potulny and you see how they can score based on the PP stats. Have him on the 3rd line with rookies and he doesn't do as well as he could. There is a lot more to overcome for a 3rd round pick than a 1st round pick.
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The ice is going to look a bit different when you get to the arena. Instead of the Sioux indian head at center ice, there will be a different UND logo. Don't worry, it's not because the Sioux logo is offensive to the NCAA, it's because the logo is the wrong size.
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So when a guy goes from draft day to NHL without improving a lick they are gonna give him the world? Go find a few of your favorite NHL players and see how many of them spent 1-2 years in the minors first. I wouldnt count Lessard out just yet. Markus Naslund certainly wouldnt.
If high draft picks are more important than college stats? What if Stafford had 7 points this year and Irmen had 140. Or vise versa? Drafted in the first round? Big deal.
Go tell one of those guys that Irmen and Potunly don't have a chance because they were 3rd rounders.
Ok, let's get realistic here. Obviously, if someone puts up 140 pts vs 7, they would most likely have a better chance of making the show... but that's not the case. We're looking at two players who have similar stats. If you don't think teams have more invested in a first round pick than a 3rd rounder, then you're crazy. They'll most likely give a 1st rounder a few extra chances to prove what he's got. Why? Marketing. Name all the 3rd rounders from the past 3 drafts without looking. Now name all the 1st rounders. Unless you spend your days memorizing the names of 3rd rounders, you'll name a lot more guys who went in the 1st.
Nobody (i just scrolled through the convo, but if someone is saying this, they're pretty dumb) is saying that there is absolutely no chance irmen and potulny can make the show. But nobody is saying it's guaranteed either. College hockey is wierd, especially the WCHA. While we put out a lot of very highly skilled players, we also have points leaders who never make it in the NHL. Panzer, Senja, Goehring, Pohl, Westrum, Lundbohm. All of those guys dominated NCAA hockey, but look at how many NHL games they have combined: 34. And sejna has 27 of those.
I wouldn't be surprised to see any of zajac, stafford, irmen and potulny make the show... but I wouldn't be surprised if only two of them made it either.
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i remember seeing one of those in 2000. when asked best atmosphere and hardest place to play, every single person said the old ralph. how i long for the days of standing outside at 8am to get into a game. stand all game and scream my lungs off. those were the days of college hockey. fortunately, i was able to get a full year in that arena before moving into the palace.
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They aren't going to turn pro before the Gophers play in the Frozen Four are they?
they have to turn pro sometime... they can't play for another 20 years.
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We can only hope that Irmen and Potulny will be gone after this season. They certainly are having good enough years to leave early.
I don't expect any freshmen to leave for the Sioux, but I wouldn't be surprised if we lost the trio in Stafford, Smaby, or Zajac. I hope that we can keep one (maybe two...crosses fingers) of those 3 players.
rumor has it zajac is staying so he can play with darcy next year.
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what we need is 3-4 UND alum who have 50-100 million dollars each. then setup an unofficial trust fund for after sioux players graduate. if you play UND hockey for four years and graduate from UND, you get 1 million. that would hopefully help keep a lot more people around for their senior seasons. alright, who has the money?
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now, i don't want to take credit for predicting this or anything... but i will.
As much as I love UMD and am extremely glad they beat Denver, I have to think that the ultimate goal for the Sioux is to win the Final Five. The best chance for that to happen is if SCSU beats UMD and then Geophert steals a game against the Gophers. Three games in three days two weeks in a row is pretty tough to do, and if UND beats Wisco, then the Sioux would get a tired SCSU team. Plus, the Gophers would then lose to Wisco, as Elliott steals a game and so the Gophers begin their post-season spiral... -
i like how the sioux game is the night game... yet bu is a host out east and they are stuck in the early game.
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i'm pretty sure the forum cannot buy the herald because of fcc rules. the current relationship with wday/forum was grandfathered in... but recently the fcc passed a ruling saying a tv station and a newspaper in a town cannot be owned by the same company.
there was brief talk about north dakota television (kvly, kx4, kmot and kfyr) buying the herald as a way to gain more viewers in the upper part of the valley... but fcc rules fobid it.
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we are te LATE game correct?
uscho shows us 9:30 est and gophers 6:30est
if 8:30 is after 5:30, then yes.
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sioux play 8:30 central on friday night... not sure about holy cross and whoever they play.
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i hope so, and i have confidence they will... but this year it's like all but holy cross could win a game. that's pretty scary.
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he's saying the sioux will win the national championship if they keep their penalties down
sioux play at 8:30 central friday night.
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this should be good... "is wonderboy the best player in the tournament?" he's not even the best player on his team.
Irish hostile and abusive?
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Notre Dame isn't the Fighting Leprechauns, they're the Fighting Irish. However, I guess if you're asking when was the last time you saw a leprechauns... well when was the last time you saw a real living Fighting Sioux Cartoon.
If the Sioux Logo represents real people, then why doesn't the Fighting Irish Logo represent real people. Both are cartoon drawings and not real pictures of a Native American or Irish American. As usual, the double standard just walks itself out into the open and everyone but GK and the NCAA can see it.